Fallout 4 "The Wanderer" trailer

Contrary to what you may think, I got into RPGs real late. Yet I love them classics, they're so good! So much better then anything else I've ever played! Which is a contrast to the shit they make nowadays.
 
I wonder how many of you that are eating this shit up have actually played some of the classic RPG's of yore? Looking for things to bitch about? You don't have to over analyze this garbage to find flaws. For those of you that were still shitting your pants when Fallout 1 and 2 came out, there is probably a pretty good chance that you are a modernized gamer who shovels AAA annualized fecal matter down your throat while washing it down with Todd Howard's hot load. Unless by some miracle you were introduced to good RPG's later on and they happened to click with you.

Planescape? Too many words.

Baldur's Gate? Is that those old games Bioware made before Mass Effect and Dragon Age?

Fallout 1 and 2? So outdated and buggy and turn based combat breaks my immersion.

Arcanum, Jagged Alliance, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, Might and Magic, Gothic, you know what? Just look at this link. There are too many to list.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9453

If your RPG of choice isn't on that list then you should reconsider if it has any fucking depth to it at all. If you are impressed by what little they have shown from Fallout 4 you are probably the kind of person who thinks Final Fantasy 7 is the best RPG of all time, or that Oblivion is really when Bethesda started to make good games. By all means keep living your illusion that Bethesda games are the best and we are hating on them simply because they are different from the old games. This isn't a knock against JRPG's either. They are great for what they are, but you aren't exactly rolling in choices in games like that.

Same with Bethesda games. They are more akin to dungeon crawlers with limited dialog options and gimped skill systems - if the skills are there at all. Not to mention the style of RPG where you can do everything in one playthrough no matter what skills you pick. You are the hero of the Fighters Guild, Thieves Guild, Mages Guild, a Vampire, a Dragon Rider, a Werewolf, or even a Vampire hunter.

Gee I'm lost and don't know where to go. Glad I have this white arrow showing me what the fuck I need to do next. Thank God I didn't have to use my brain and follow directions and search for clues. Man I hate when my companions die since Bethesda's AI is crap so why not make them immortal? People really hated it in Morrowind when you could kill a guy that was vital to the main quest, so now nothing can truly die!

By all means reply with some clever retort that you think has never been said before, but use that pink matter inside your skull and wonder if you are part of the problem.
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Is that what you're going to scream at 10 year old kids 10 years from now?

What difference does it make? Your preaching to the choir in a NMA forum. This isn't a direct line to Bethesda. They are going to do what they want with this franchise what they will. I know it sucks, It happens. Here's an idea, kidnap the exec's from Bethesda and give them the basis for an RPG that was great 15+ years ago.
 
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Wretched Flamingo said:
Is that what you're going to scream at 10 year old kids 10 years from now?

What difference does it make? Your preaching to the choir in a NMA forum. This isn't a direct line to Bethesda. They are going to do what they want with this franchise what they will. I know it sucks, It happens. Here's an idea, kidnap the exec's from Bethesda and give them the basis for an RPG that was great 15+ years ago.
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No man you don't understaaaand I need to scream in frustration that much more people are enjoying Bethesda's Fallouts than they would "classics"! Gosh my taste in videogames is so much better than these dumb casuals.

Anyway I'm sure Bethesda will read this and realize their mistake, begging forgiveness to NMA for legally acquiring the Fallout IP that Interplay sold to them
 
helios1 said:
I don't really see anything wrong with a trailer making things look cool. Fallout New Vegas' trailer had plenty of action, explosions, guns, and an "epic moment" at the end with the explosion and slow-mo walking. I thought this trailer was cool for what it was. Wasn't supposed to be some super serious in depth look at the game.
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I didn't particularly care for that trailer either but the difference between the two is that the FNV one was gameplay, not liveaction+CGI bullshit. The FNV showed off standard gameplay, not "oh look at his swagger!" and the end of the trailer? Where The Courier walks away from an explosion without looking back? I found that to be very cringe'y.

Look at the tailer and how Cpt Cool McDude-Bro has a swagger. He ain't just walking around like 'a person' would. He's puffing himself up and swinging his shoulders around and struts along like he fucking owns the place.

If he'd just walk around like, oh I dunno, a person fresh out of a secure life who's stepped into the horrors of an alien world he used to call his home that now wants to kill him, yknow, more cautious with his step? More careful with how he looks around? Maybe getting the fuck out of the way when a squad of super mutants appear? It'd be a lot better.

But the way he walks around, the way he shoots the radroach, the way he engages the super mutants and the damn power armor (I'm getting real sick of space armors) bit at the end to top it all off makes it all come across as pathetic to me. Bethesda's trying way too hard to make him "cool" and he just ends up looking like a tool.

The Courier was limited by the plastic engine so if anything he came across as a cold-blooded psychopath the way he was pretty much expressionless when you saw his face as he shot a weapon. But the only time I could think of where they tried to make him look cool was the walk away from explosion bit. And like I said, I found that cringe'y. Most of the time he just looked like 'some guy' would.

This trailer isn't showing much at all about what Fallout 4 will be about or what Fallout is.
FNV's didn't do that a whole lot either, it showed off some factions that the courier gunned down and some locations but that was pretty much it.
Neither is really good for an official "hey, here's why you should buy this game"-trailer.
But as bad as FNV's was, this one is worse. Doesn't excuse the FNV one, but FNV's bad trailer doesn't invalidate the criticism of this one.

Then again, Bethesda was in charge of the marketing for FNV, so... I don't really want to pile more shit on Bethesda than I have to but... Were they responsible for the trailer for FNV? Cause if so, well... Then the bad FNV trailer that was just a gunfest was yet again Bethesda's marketing decision. If not, then Obsidian is definitely to blame and we should hold them accountable for it as they should be better than that.

I have no idea though. Chances are it was Bethesda's decision as they are the publisher and so they handle the marketing. Trailers are part of the marketing. But the ones who had to put together a trailer was likely Obsidian as they were the ones working on the project closely.

Maybe both are?

Whatever, shitty trailers are shitty. Whatever happened to advertising what the 'actual game' is going to be about?

Walpknut said:
Wretched Flamingo said:
Is that what you're going to scream at 10 year old kids 10 years from now?
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10 Year olds shouldn't be playing Fallout anyway.
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Hey! I started playing Fallout 2 when I was 10. :I

On an unrelated note: Here's FunnyJunk's view on the trailer: http://funnyjunk.com/channel/fallout/Fallout+4+live+action+trailer/BfheLOs/
 
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A good way to deliver the "Cool Guy" thing would be by having some form of "Time lapse" narrative to the trailer, start him off scared and cautios with his basic Jumpsuit, jump ahead to him in Leather armor shooting a Mole rat, then to him on Metal armor being all cool and shit but then the Super Mutant fuck him up and he barely escapes with his life, cut to him getting the Power Armor and now he is mowing down some Muties and shit like that. You know, show how RPGs usually work..... then again it's Bethesda so I doubt they will start you off powerless or weak in any way.
 
But you're forgetting, this guy is a veteran. With a low, emotionless voice and a dog too. You think someone like him would be scared of a wasteland?
 
Scream in frustration? No I just think you kids are morons. I'm pretty laid back about it.

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Dr Fallout said:
TorontRayne said:
Scream in frustration? No I just think you kids are morons. I'm pretty laid back about it.

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Not all kids are morons. Sure most are but you know there are exceptions.
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The kids who come to troll and state how great their shitty games are. If you aren't one of those then don't take offense. Frankly a lot of kids in the states are fucking morons; Glued to their fancy newfangled phones with a piss poor education system all the while shoveling Doritos and Mountain Dew down their gullets while they teabag away on CoD.
 
TorontRayne said:
Dr Fallout said:
TorontRayne said:
Scream in frustration? No I just think you kids are morons. I'm pretty laid back about it.

:monocle:
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Not all kids are morons. Sure most are but you know there are exceptions.
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The kids who come to troll and state how great their shitty games are. If you aren't one of those then don't take offense. Frankly a lot of kids in the states are fucking morons; Glued to their fancy newfangled phones with a piss poor education system all the while shoveling Doritos and Mountain Dew down their gullets while they teabag away on CoD.
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Hmm... sounds like something we have in Australia too...
 
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