General Discussion Thread of DOOM

  • Thread starter Thread starter TorontoReign
  • Start date Start date
Crni Vuk said:
And that's 150 years ago!
Click to expand...
oldest living human, recorded at least, was 122 years old and she died in 1997. a year before i was born. no living person has much historical reason to hold a grudge against the people of today unless they're just being a petty faggot. relative to the average human lifespan it so long ago that it doesn't matter anymore.
Crni Vuk said:
One example. What do you think, how many americans with irish family names only live in America today, because their ancestry left ireland due to the potatoe famine?
Click to expand...
actually my great granddad fled to america from Poland because Nazis. don't see me hating on hass about it. blaming the people of today for what they're ancestors did is nothing short of retarded.
 
In seriousness, it's not about *guilt*, guilt is abstract, but it's typically about acknowledgement

What offends for example blacks in the US is when they percieve a lacking acknowledgement. Slavery in the US was recent, and effects will probably continue to last. Look at American city maps, and society is in all practical terms still segregated. Not to a full extent, and not in a way that is set by law, but in a practical manner - whites live here, blacks live there. You're not supposed to feel guilty about that, or feel sad, or *do* anything, you're just a Graves, or some other American, it's not "on you" to do anything, really - other than to acknowledge. Acknowledgement can be entirely passive, just saying "ah, indeed, look! there is a truth to this!"

Blame, hate, guilt etc, are... ugh... such unfortunate byproducts of that dialog. It helps nobody, and it only aggravates things. Some, like good old Mutie, seem to *demand* guilt and emotion and action and something, this leads nowhere, because there's nothing you can do.
That's the frustration of many white Americans, when faced with this demand: What the hell am I supposed to do, fly into a time-machine and stop slavery!?

What I see, though, sometimes, are arguments like "black communities only got themselves to blame".
This is sowing salt into wounds. This is not acknowledging a brutal past that IS - relatively recent. Recent enough for some people to know the actual names of their great grandmothers and whatnot, who endured this life. To have this hurt simply brushed aside as a triviality can be enough to cause very deep anger. Again - you aren't supposed to TAKE guilt upon yourself. I, a lefty, declare this! It's NOBODY's fault who's alive today, NOBODY who's alive today is to blame, and NOBODY SHOULD FEEL BAD. Y'all got lives to live, things to do.

All that is required - by reasonable minds anyway - is acknowledgement. Black communities have fallen behind because of the *chasm* of inequality between masters and slaves. A gap that continues for generations to follow is inevitable. In humor, irony as well as frustration, this acknowledgement has become synonymized with "white guilt", which really is counter productive, because it is unfair.

/rant.
 
zegh8578 said:
Look at American city maps, and society is in all practical terms still segregated.
Click to expand...
lol no. i interact with black people every day. hell my first uhhhh.... partner was black. shit like that does NOT happen in a segregated society.
zegh8578 said:
whites live here, blacks live there. You're not supposed to feel guilty about that, or feel sad, or *do* anything, you're just a Graves, or some other American, it's not "on you" to do anything, really - other than to acknowledge. Acknowledgement can be entirely passive, just saying "ah, indeed, look! there is a truth to this!"
Click to expand...
ah ok. yeah that's true to a certain extent and its largely due to how cancerous black culture is as a whole. the whole ant-police pro gangtsta attitude. they don't value education or success. mind you i'm speaking generally here but yeah. its a real problem the black community refuses to acknowledge. instead they blame whitey. The boondocks is a great show that actually acknowledges and critiques black culture in a respectful but truthful way. y'all should watch it.
zegh8578 said:
All that is required - by reasonable minds anyway - is acknowledgement. Black communities have fallen behind because of the *chasm* of inequality between masters and slaves.
Click to expand...
lol no equal opportunity is a thing. if there's inequality is their own fault. just like its my own fault that i'm a wage cuck in a factory. coulda been a welder but noooooooo
zegh8578 said:
"white guilt", which really is counter productive, because it is unfair.
Click to expand...
love you too boo
 
Last edited:
Crni Vuk said:
Some creatures are so small, they move trough air in a very similar manner as we move trough water.
Click to expand...

Just an hour ago, I mused at my gf about how we give insects entirely too much credit when it comes to lifting "100 times their own weight" etc
It has to do with sheer mass, and fibre density and strength. A mega-organism like a human will be dealing with comparatively mega-objects, like boulders and pianos and small cars, and sure enough, it's very difficult for us to just lift this stuff without the *sheer mass* of these objects becoming too much for the structural integrity of our muscle mass to deal with

Our muscles simply rip from their bones, or bones themselves snap

Insects have only to lift very small objects. Sure, they are comparatively heavy next to the insect - but they are not comparatively heavy next to the insects muscle fibre structural integrity

That's the same reason you can throw a spider from an airplane, and the spider will tumble and tumble, land on the ground, and scurry off like it was all just an inconvenience - it's all about actual mass

She told me wtf and to be quiet
 
R.Graves said:
is zegh gonna hafta smack a bitch?
Click to expand...

She sometimes grabs my hand and slaps her own face with it
She thinks its fun, but if she bruises, there's nothing I will ever be able to say that anyone would believe, "SHE ACTUALLY GRABS MY HAND! NO - SHE MAKES ME SLAP HER!!! PLEASE BELIEVE ME!!!"
 
MutantScalper said:
Yanks always bend over backwards to belittle the number of Natives killed. Reminds me all the mental gymnastics the NRA folks practice.
Click to expand...
Just to point out that the article means South America colonization more than North America.
At that time it was estimated that North America had between 2.1 to 18 million people (this includes natives from what is now Canada) while South and Central America was estimated to have around 37 million.
From these 37 million, it is estimated that a minimum of 80% of them were killed by diseases brought by the Europeans, and we have an unknown number of war casualties.
 
Chicago vs. Day after Tomorrow.

CzvxxixXUAA43bs.jpg
CzvxxixXEAETqUZ.jpg
 
I'm the type of person who sees that it's -10°C in the morning and decides to go jogging in t-shirt and shorts. The cold never bothered me anyway.
 
I am envious, I am cold at this weather. Then again, it's rarely this cold in my country. It was the coldest year in the past ten I believe. Most of the time it was somewhere around 0*C. I miss the times when the sea froze over, it was fun.
 
Risewild said:
Just to point out that the article means South America colonization more than North America.
At that time it was estimated that North America had between 2.1 to 18 million people (this includes natives from what is now Canada) while South and Central America was estimated to have around 37 million.
From these 37 million, it is estimated that a minimum of 80% of them were killed by diseases brought by the Europeans, and we have an unknown number of war casualties.
Click to expand...

I get it. So it's

Bioweapons = good
Native cultures = bad
Firearms = good (but they weren't totally used to wipe out the native cultures, like, at all)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top