General Discussion Thread of DOOM

[TorontoReign]

Jim Ross has skin cancer.

 

[SquidWard]

I see what you mean. But if you ask me you're ignoring the countless of stuff which was predicted or seen as a possibility but which never happen or at least not as how it was predicted. Like nuclear cars. People living in space (remember 2001 Space Odyssey? People really thought this to be a future for us today) and a lot more stuff. I mean look at the whole 1950s idea of the future where they thought we would be living in a sort of paradise today with robots, transportation and everything nuclear.
Imagine that during the 1920 or so they also thought most humans today would work what? 3 or 4 hours each day? And the rest of the time they would spend with fun and even lazy activities because productivty moved so rapidity economists back then believed no one will need to work anymore in the future. But look at us now ... in some cases people even work more than just one generation ago to achieve similar results.

So with saying this even if something seems possible on paper that still doesn't mean that it will happen. Some changes can happen in just a relatively short period. Like the change from Horses to cars - but that was kinda in development for quite some time. But other technological changes might take generations. Particularly when we're talking about space travel. Because frankly it is that complicated and difficult to achieve. Even if we're only talking about own solar system. I mean imagine if earth would see a nuclear war in 50 yerars right before someone invents a really good engine for space travel. What would that help? Nothing. Because then people would be thrown back as whole civilisations collapse.

I honestly don't expect any meaningful space travel in our generation. Maybe not even the next one. I serously doubt people will enjoy their honeymoon on Mars in the near future.

People tend to think lots of random things or be inspired by things. I'm more talking people who are qualified ot understand how far tech will advance with the limitations given and all. So when people working with CRISPR say something like we can remove genes that do X in 60 years time give or take, I don't fully doubt that it'd be possible within 30 years even. It's very complex and contextual obviously. I just don't think people should anticipate so much of modern life to stay the way it is even just on a tech perspective. Smart phones are wildly different and haven't even been around for two whole decades.

I do agree though, people can be overly ambitious and that's what I kinda meant by

We're often very, very wrong about how fast things come to be and if we're thinking we can do something by a certain point, we usually do it even sooner. At least with not popular fiction works but rather actual inventors and people of those fields looking out towards the future.

Because people either doubt it too much or don't doubt enough of works of fiction and fantasies. I tell people we can start editing genes with efficiency and they'll doubt me but CRISPR is real and they're making progress. That's right now. They've already used it on non-human animals to do things. I'm not well read on how far they've gotten though.

I serously doubt people will enjoy their honeymoon on Mars in the near future.

No but we might see colonization in this lifetime. A one way ticket colonization that is. Depends on money and resources and all that too. Casual space travel is probably very far off. Not to mention all the shit we keep flooding the top of atmosphere with will become more and more deadly until we clear it.

People who thought the Jetsons were a possibility by 2000 were likely not well studied in the fields of tech. And it's just getting faster though too. So who knows. But I do know that people would be shocked by the tech we have available today even if they imagine floating cars and telepathic dog mutants and what the fuck ever.

 

[Crni Vuk]

I'm more talking people who are qualified ot understand how far tech will advance with the limitations given and all.

I know. But even that doesn't have to necessarily mean that it will happen. Just that it can happen. At the end of the day people have also to accept it. And if they don't? Well then it won't happen. As simple as that. Not to mention that again, we have no clue what kind of cultural and social environment we will have in 20, 30 or 50 years from now. Or what the global and national production and economy will look like. I mean there is this really interesting scene in Interstellar where a teacher tells to the main character about his daughter something like, we don't need engineers we need farmers! Your daughter should become a farmer!
Imagine if in 30 or 40 years global farming like becomes 40 or 50% more difficult. A lot of the "resources" and "time" by people will be spend with gathering food. So what ever technological super-space-travel-product-thingy will be invented might simply be forgotten and fall into obscurity. Simply because we lack the resources to well deploy it in large enough numberes.

Because people either doubt it too much or don't doubt enough of works of fiction and fantasies. I tell people we can start editing genes with efficiency and they'll doubt me but CRISPR is real and they're making progress. That's right now. They've already used it on non-human animals to do things. I'm not well read on how far they've gotten though.

We will have to wait and see I guess. People in general are also pretty conservative when it comes to genetics. Particularly when it is about tampering with the human genome. Who knows? There might be international laws against it and it becomes heavily regulated. It's impossible to say what the social changes here will be. The technological side is only one factor here. What the people, the masses, the politians, the media and society will do with it? That's a whole different question.

No but we might see colonization in this lifetime. A one way ticket colonization that is. Depends on money and resources and all that too.

Eh. As I see it more a one way suicide mission. The moon maybe. Here I agree we might see a sort of permanent scientific settlement. But people actually living in space? Like a colony? I just don't see it. As much as I love space and science fiction. When you look at why people used to colonise other places it was always the idea of having a better live somewhere else - and even here it more often than not turned out to be wrong and a lot of people died trying to build something new. But you can't really have a better live on mars or the moon or some asteroid compared to earth. Not for a long time anyway. So what real reason would there be to I don't know colonise Mars?

 

[TorontoReign]

I know. But even that doesn't have to necessarily mean that it will happen. Just that it can happen. At the end of the day people have also to accept it. And if they don't? Well then it won't happen. As simple as that. Not to mention that again, we have no clue what kind of cultural and social environment we will have in 20, 30 or 50 years from now. Or what the global and national production and economy will look like. I mean there is this really interesting scene in Interstellar where a teacher tells to the main character about his daughter something like, we don't need engineers we need farmers! Your daughter should become a farmer!
Imagine if in 30 or 40 years global farming like becomes 40 or 50% more difficult. A lot of the "resources" and "time" by people will be spend with gathering food. So what ever technological super-space-travel-product-thingy will be invented might simply be forgotten and fall into obscurity.


We will have to wait and see I guess. People in general are also pretty conservative when it comes to genetics. Particularly when it is about tampering with the human genome. Who knows? There might be international laws against it and it becomes heavily regulated. It's impossible to say what the social changes here will be. The technological side is only one factor here. What the people, the masses, the politians, the media and society will do with it? That's a whole different question.

Here take a video.

 

[SquidWard]

We will have to wait and see I guess. People in general are also pretty conservative when it comes to genetics. Particularly when it is about tampering with the human genome. Who knows? There might be international laws against it and it becomes heavily regulated. It's impossible to say what the social changes here will be. The technological side is only one factor here. What the people, the masses, the politians, the media and society will do with it? That's a whole different question.

Yeah, of course. What is acceptable and how soon is another question. Genetic modification will have tons of questions. Is it ethical to make more perfect people or is it ethical to let people die of preventable diseases and disorders? It'll be a battle for sure.

I know. But even that doesn't have to necessarily mean that it will happen. Just that it can happen. At the end of the day people have also to accept it. And if they don't? Well then it won't happen. As simple as that. Not to mention that again, we have no clue what kind of cultural and social environment we will have in 20, 30 or 50 years from now. Or what the global and national production and economy will look like. I mean there is this really interesting scene in Interstellar where a teacher tells to the main character about his daughter something like, we don't need engineers we need farmers! Your daughter should become a farmer!
Imagine if in 30 or 40 years global farming like becomes 40 or 50% more difficult. A lot of the "resources" and "time" by people will be spend with gathering food. So what ever technological super-space-travel-product-thingy will be invented might simply be forgotten and fall into obscurity. Simply because we lack the resources to well deploy it in large enough numberes.

Sure, I just am tired of people doubting the technological capabilities. I get that the other factors are hard to even have a good guess at. But people often say "It just isn't possible." Yeah a lot of shit wasn't possible until it was. We watched big bolts of electricity strike from the sky and now we use to talk to each other about dumb shit and be angry at each other and in the end we never change each others' minds! It's wonderful! When it comes to reality of what is and isn't possible (excluding politics and economics) people tend to doubt the reality of how far we've come and have yet to possibly go is all. There's plenty of roadblocks along the way but we haven't been stopped yet.

We could probably make flying cars work now but why would we? It's not very practical (people can't drive well as it is) and we still have big oil interested in staying alive.

 

[Atomic Postman]

Making wasteland style football armor for my tribal Vault Dweller Halloween costume

Well, I say Vault Dweller. If the jumpsuit looks lame as shit I'm going to use my acrylic paints to Great Khanify my denim jacket.

 

[TorontoReign]

Making wasteland style football armor for my tribal Vault Dweller Halloween costume

Well, I say Vault Dweller. If the jumpsuit looks lame as shit I'm going to use my acrylic paints to Great Khanify my denim jacket.

Make sure you post it on the 31st!

 

[Atomic Postman]

Finished the wasteland armor. Knees, wrists and obligatory mad max shoulder pad.

Working on the jumpsuit now. Gonna go with an Arroyo inspo for the suit. 13 with lots of tribal patterns in vault suit yellow.

 

[Atomic Postman]

Got the jumpsuit painted up

 

[Walpknut]

I wonder what do the people who get design gigs at government agencies do to get them.
I once got passes over on a technical test for a job because I gave english names to the Classes of my divs because that would generate problems if someone had to check my code later on for adjustments and I was on another project, despite me having the habit of also annotating what each section of the spredsheet corresponded to. Then I go to adjust a website and they have like 5 different css sheets per website, and some elements have their styles divided up between those 5 sheets and also have inline styles that requires me to edit the structure to fix issues they themselves created. Just fucked up shit. I am glad I am gonna be working with foreign clients starting next month.

 

[TorontoReign]

I wonder what do the people who get design gigs at government agencies do to get them.
I once got passes over on a technical test for a job because I gave english names to the Classes of my divs because that would generate problems if someone had to check my code later on for adjustments and I was on another project, despite me having the habit of also annotating what each section of the spredsheet corresponded to. Then I go to adjust a website and they have like 5 different css sheets per website, and some elements have their styles divided up between those 5 sheets and also have inline styles that requires me to edit the structure to fix issues they themselves created. Just fucked up shit. I am glad I am gonna be working with foreign clients starting next month.

It's all about who you know and how cheap you are. Government contract gigs like that are often by word of mouth.

 

[Jogre]

When I was at Secondary School, I remember my history teacher playing this:



I remembered it till this day because it's an absolute banger.

 

[Gizmojunk]

Sounds like a B track from the Human League.

(a Joke)

 

[Walpknut]

So if you still jerk off or have sex but don't cum, does it still count towards No Nut november?

 

[Crni Vuk]

Probably not.

 

[Walpknut]

But you aren't nutting.

 

[Morgan_]

 

[TJQKA]

 

[Walpknut]

Is it weird that I only enjoy drinking hard stuff if at all? I really dislike the taste of most alcoholic drinks, so I prefer the ones that you just take shots of and barely taste. I really hate drinking beer, I have to taste it for too long and have to drink too many for the effect to start.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Maybe it's because you get faster tipsy? It's like I hate beer but after a couple I don't care. It goes down like water.