Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
The NRA are funded by regular citizens but gun control is funded by the globalists elite!!!
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Good joke man.
Gun Control
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Good joke man.
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TorontoReign
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Right, they fund candidates with backwards policies like arming stressed out teachers as a solution to the gun problem. Yes, it backfires in all kinds of ways, and gun manufacturers that have taken proactive steps towards combating gun violence have been screwed over for their effort. The NRA is not the problem. Lobbying is the problem.
GonZo_626
Well Shit!
Who runs March For Our Lives?
http://sultanknish.blogspot.ca/2018/...our-lives.html
Follow the money.
It’s a strange political fact, but nearly every major anti-gun group has been a front group. The NRA is maligned 24/7 and yet it’s completely obvious whom it represents. Despite the efforts to tie it to everyone from firearms manufacturers to the Russians (if you can’t tie any random Republican thing to the Russians these days, you won’t be working at the Washington Post or CNN for very long), it represents its five million members. Anti-gun groups tend to represent shadowy networks.
Take Everytown, the noisiest and most dishonest anti-gun group on the scene. The one consistent thing about anti-gun groups is that that they are usually the opposite of what their name says they are.
Everytown for Gun Safety was formed out of two other groups: Moms Demand Action and Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Both are actually front groups for Michael Bloomberg, the lefty billionaire and former boss of the Big Apple, who used New York City resources to host at least one of its websites.
So Everytown is really New York City.
March for Our Lives is on every cable channel, but who runs it? The photogenic teen fronts are out front. But it’s obvious to everyone that a bunch of teens don’t have the resources and skills to coordinate a nationwide movement. Instead it’s the experienced activists who are actually running things.
The March for Our Lives Fund is incorporated as a 501(c)(4). Donations to 501(c)(4) groups are not tax- deductible. And they don’t have to disclose donors. That’s why they’re a great dark money conduit.
But the March for Our Lives website suggests that donors who want to make a tax-deductible donation should write a check to the “March For Our Lives—Everytown Support Fund”. How will Bloomberg’s organization provide support for the supposed student group?
Why have two March for Our Lives Fund, one dark and one light? And why is one being routed through the godfather of the gun control lobby?
When it comes to March for Our Lives, the questions never end.
The March for Our Lives permit application was filed by Deena Katz, a co-executive director of the Women's March Los Angeles Foundation. This wasn’t just a little bit of professional activist assistance.
The application lists Katz as the “Person in Charge of Event”.
Katz is a former Dancing With the Stars and current Bill Maher producer. She’s also the former owner of Talent Central, a Los Angeles talent agency, The leaked application lists her as the president of the March for Our Lives Fund.
Media contacts for March for Our Lives are being handled by 42 West. The agency is a full service PR firm operating out of New York and Los Angeles that represents major celebrities. 42 West was supposedly recommended by George Clooney who was one of a number of major celebrity donors.
Where did all those millions of dollars go? Good question.
“They’re being directed by people with knowledge of how to responsibly spend this money and it’s going to be very transparent. Every penny is going to be accounted for," Jeff Kasky, the father of one of the students, claimed.
Who are those people? A leaked document reveals that the March for Our Lives Action Fund is actually overseen by six directors and is incorporated in Delaware.
So far we have Los Angeles, New York and Delaware, but not Florida.
Donations are being directed to, “March For Our Lives Fund, 16130 Ventura Blvd Ste 320, Encino, CA 91435.” That matches the listed office address on the application for the Wishnow Ross Warsavsky & Company. The tax firm appears to have no website.
The six directors lean toward Los Angeles.
There's Aileen Adams, the head of Do Good LA, who had served as the Deputy Mayor for the Office of Strategic Partnerships for Los Angeles. Adams was also UCLA's Vice Provost for Strategic Alliances.
Nor is she the only UCLA person on the list.
There's also George Kieffer, chair of UCLA's Board of Regents, who was named one of the most influential lawyers in California. He also held a variety of other political positions and headed the California State Protocol Foundation which funds expenses for Governor Jerry Brown.
Then there’s Nina Vinik who serves as the Program Director for the Gun Violence Prevention Program at the Joyce Foundation. The Joyce Foundation has been notable for its gun control efforts and it’s not surprising to find it here. The Joyce Foundation also set up the anti-gun Fund for a Safer Future.
One story claims that, "Several members of the Fund for a Safer Future are organizing internally to explore new ways of engagement in the wake of Parkland.” Another states that the Joyce Foundation, “funds research to help grantees understand how different audiences think about the issue. It's up to grantees to come up with tactics.” After Parkland, Nina wrote a militant editorial using some very familiar talking points, like, “Maybe it’s time to ask the Supreme Court about the rights of the Parkland parents to see their kids grow up.” The Joyce Foundation and Nina are based out of Chicago.
Over in Washington D.C., there's Vernetta Walker of BoardSource acting as the fund’s Secretary and Jeri Rhodes of the Friends Committee on National Legislation acting as its Treasurer.
And then out of Madison, Wisconsin, comes Melissa Scholz.
Florida is notably absent from the roll call. Instead the organization, one of a number of seeming incarnations of the March for Our Lives brand, draws on established activist talent from the usual places, Chicago, Los Angeles and Washington D.C. There’s nothing particularly local about it.
March for Our Lives is funded by Hollywood celebs, it’s led by a Hollywood producer and its finances are routed through an obscure tax firm in the Valley. Its treasurer and secretary are Washington D.C. pros. And a top funder of gun control agendas is also one of its directors.
None of this has much to do with Parkland. The mass shooting by a mentally ill man who should have been committed and arrested long before he carried out his massacre was a political opportunity.
Now that opportunity is being exploited to the hilt by a professional class of political activists.
Gun control activists wring their hands over the NRA. They claim that a special interest lobby is illegitimately thwarting the “will of the people”. Yet it’s the anti-gun groups that are invariably false fronts. It’s very clear who runs the NRA. But the latest fake anti-NRA group is a nebulous shadow. Out front are the high school students and out back are the professional activists.
And who is really behind the whole thing? Hollywood celebs, Bloomberg, a network of organizations?
We know who supports the NRA. You can see NRA stickers on car windows even in the bluest cities in the country. But who really supports the anti-gun political network? You’ll need to spend hours sorting through paperwork, following the trail, comparing addresses and researching names, to even get a hint.
That’s what an illegitimate lobby thwarting the will of the people really looks like.
Instead of March for Our Lives, maybe it’s time to March for the Truth?
Daniel Greenfield is a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. This article previously appeared at the Center's Front Page Magazine.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
The infowars is strong in this one.
GonZo_626
Well Shit!
Ahhh the internet, when presented with evidence all that some can do is attack the people giving it. And if you think gun owners in the US all support the NRA here is a comment from one.
"The NRA has been selling out the American gun owner for over 100 years. They actively supported the NFA in 1934, the Gun Control Act in 1968 and the oppositely named Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA) which removed the right of Americans to purchase new automatic or AOW weapons, a clear violation of the Second Amendment.
All of this was done with the cooperation of the sellout Progressive owned and run Republican Party as well."
Oh and as for removing the second amendment please remember what the politicians have sworn to uphold.
Article VI of the Constitution requires government officials to take an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Those who would urge the government to exceed its constitutional authority in pursuance of preferred agendas, are among those the framers of the Article spoke of as “domestic enemies.”
TheGM
The voice of reason
He's not wrong though.
Known plenty of people who tell gun owners that the NRA is not your friend. but then again they are the only gun right's advocacy group that has any pull. Catch 22 is what that is.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
You literally copy pasted an article from a blog full of Infowars style bullshit. Is that your idea of "evidence"?
Anyone who buys into the idea that the NRA is the underdog attacked by globalists must have a screw loose up there.
Anyone who buys into the idea that the NRA is the underdog attacked by globalists must have a screw loose up there.
GonZo_626
Well Shit!
Oh I never said they were the underdog, they have been doing exactly what a lot of there members want them to do, protect them from extraneous laws that will do nothing but infringe on there right and do nothing to protect people or remove guns from criminals, and they are well funded. But is it not nice to know that there membership has surely saw a spike since this recent attack on there rights, and that gun sales have probably spiked again. Gun control advocates are the gun industries best friend, every time they speak up sales spike. Maybe Remington will be saved by this.
But once again I am Canadian and have no real stake in this fight. I just like guns and do not want to see laws that will not do anything get put in place. And while I admit that the website is suspicious, I can find nothing to prove it wrong.
And giving no shit about the rights of others in return, like the right to not getting shoot. I quote:
4. The false sense of "freedom".
While the right to have guns is a Constitutional right and is not likely to go away anytime soon, it's interesting that so many gun enthusiasts feel like the Second Amendment is the only thing that really makes them "free".
Most of those same people accept limits on many other aspects of their freedom, often without question, but would balk at the suggestion that almost anyone couldn't walk into a sporting goods store and immediately buy an AR15 rifle without more scrutiny than they currently endure.
You really want to compare people getting ridiculed for willingly registering on this forum and coming here with the purpose of telling us how awesome F3 is and how shit we are for not seeing it, with 'fake-news' and manufactured missinformation about a person that lost her friends in aschool shooting?
Now that's some kind of mental gymnastics here.
Yeah, I guess slapping a drunk person who's geting to close to you is also comparable with child rape at this point. Right? It's all the same. We shouldn't act so surprised!
Man how could anyone ever get this crazy idea that a fetish can be unhealthy! *Slaps forehead*
https://www.yourtango.com/2017307316/why-gun-culture-toxic-written-man-who-used-be-gun-fanatic
What the hell, maybe weapons should be more seen like alcohol or tobacco, rather than just 'another tool', something that is absolutely no problem in moderate dozages but really a problem when you become addicted to it or use it as a substitute for your frail personality - I mean we havn't even really talked about the fact, how most of the time you have white males being the shooters, weapons like almost no other object represent masculinity and power.
People are asking for sensible nationalwide regulations not the whole banning of weapons, people are asking for a different stance to fire arms where they are not treated as a commodity. Obviously anyone with half a brain realizes that this ALONE(!) will not fix the underlying issue, but it is one part of a larger change which should also include better mental institutions, warnings, less inequality leading to poverty, stress, fear, anxiety and shooters seeing their only salvation in going out and killing random people. But to say that gun culture is NOT doing it's part, is intelletually dishonest.
The unwillingness of people to even recognise that guns are seen and treated, like a 'cult' than weapons by a small but loud and influental minority shows where the problem is. The sher denial of gun fetishists is simply astonishing, where they will blame everything and everyone before they would even consider guns to be a part of the equation.
4. The false sense of "freedom".
While the right to have guns is a Constitutional right and is not likely to go away anytime soon, it's interesting that so many gun enthusiasts feel like the Second Amendment is the only thing that really makes them "free".
Most of those same people accept limits on many other aspects of their freedom, often without question, but would balk at the suggestion that almost anyone couldn't walk into a sporting goods store and immediately buy an AR15 rifle without more scrutiny than they currently endure.
Seriously now? That's the logic you want to apply here?
You really want to compare people getting ridiculed for willingly registering on this forum and coming here with the purpose of telling us how awesome F3 is and how shit we are for not seeing it, with 'fake-news' and manufactured missinformation about a person that lost her friends in aschool shooting?
Now that's some kind of mental gymnastics here.
Yeah, I guess slapping a drunk person who's geting to close to you is also comparable with child rape at this point. Right? It's all the same. We shouldn't act so surprised!
If this was only about criticising here and not about tackling a much more complex and deeper problem.
Man how could anyone ever get this crazy idea that a fetish can be unhealthy! *Slaps forehead*
https://www.yourtango.com/2017307316/why-gun-culture-toxic-written-man-who-used-be-gun-fanatic
What the hell, maybe weapons should be more seen like alcohol or tobacco, rather than just 'another tool', something that is absolutely no problem in moderate dozages but really a problem when you become addicted to it or use it as a substitute for your frail personality - I mean we havn't even really talked about the fact, how most of the time you have white males being the shooters, weapons like almost no other object represent masculinity and power.
People are asking for sensible nationalwide regulations not the whole banning of weapons, people are asking for a different stance to fire arms where they are not treated as a commodity. Obviously anyone with half a brain realizes that this ALONE(!) will not fix the underlying issue, but it is one part of a larger change which should also include better mental institutions, warnings, less inequality leading to poverty, stress, fear, anxiety and shooters seeing their only salvation in going out and killing random people. But to say that gun culture is NOT doing it's part, is intelletually dishonest.
The unwillingness of people to even recognise that guns are seen and treated, like a 'cult' than weapons by a small but loud and influental minority shows where the problem is. The sher denial of gun fetishists is simply astonishing, where they will blame everything and everyone before they would even consider guns to be a part of the equation.
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BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
States that don't require permits for firearms need to change that policy. It's problematic but not symptomatic. This conversation is already muddled by people brandishing the volume of school-shootings as an epidemic when closer analysis reveals it's not as constant. A shooting in a school basketball court after a fight breaks out is included in the same statistic as Parkland, Virginia Tech, or Sandy Hook.
Perhaps. The Sandy Hook shooter had a rather extensive pedigree of mental health issues and there were some very notable signs that he was on his way out. The only problem was his Mom could only communicate with him by e-mail and he cut off contact with his Dad and brother (two years prior). The writing was on the walls but nobody had access to the room to begin with and the parents didn't care enough to check and see why their son was not communicating.
The nature of posing with a gun can itself seem masculine and/or cool or whatever, but I think most will agree that killing a room fulls of kids is the total opposite of masculinity, and not to mention, totally gay.
Perhaps. The Sandy Hook shooter had a rather extensive pedigree of mental health issues and there were some very notable signs that he was on his way out. The only problem was his Mom could only communicate with him by e-mail and he cut off contact with his Dad and brother (two years prior). The writing was on the walls but nobody had access to the room to begin with and the parents didn't care enough to check and see why their son was not communicating.
The nature of posing with a gun can itself seem masculine and/or cool or whatever, but I think most will agree that killing a room fulls of kids is the total opposite of masculinity, and not to mention, totally gay.
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Crni
The bullshit about full auto? Wrong. Trying to shady as fuck construe bump stocks as 'full auto', bullshit. LIES. Much like MFK and his statements that were proved wrong time and again in theOwG and F2 better than F3 thread.
AGAIN, I do not have issue with protesting, just don't TALK OUT OF THEIR ASSES. Like you said Crni, they are not just bullshitting in some forum, they are actively trying to make decisions and change that will affect a great deal of American gun owners. The very LEAST, they could do is provide coherent arguments. Remember all the leftist bullshit that brought Trump victory? We talked about it in the Trump wins thread. Look where it got us right? This is why any serious gun control debate requires honest and effective discussions based on facts and not fear mongering.
If Emmy starts to sound like Mf , sure she deserves some flak. Not the dumbass memes but certainly she deserves to be corrected.
The bullshit about full auto? Wrong. Trying to shady as fuck construe bump stocks as 'full auto', bullshit. LIES. Much like MFK and his statements that were proved wrong time and again in theOwG and F2 better than F3 thread.
AGAIN, I do not have issue with protesting, just don't TALK OUT OF THEIR ASSES. Like you said Crni, they are not just bullshitting in some forum, they are actively trying to make decisions and change that will affect a great deal of American gun owners. The very LEAST, they could do is provide coherent arguments. Remember all the leftist bullshit that brought Trump victory? We talked about it in the Trump wins thread. Look where it got us right? This is why any serious gun control debate requires honest and effective discussions based on facts and not fear mongering.
If Emmy starts to sound like Mf , sure she deserves some flak. Not the dumbass memes but certainly she deserves to be corrected.
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TorontoReign
Guest
Look I know the left is running their own crooked scheme. Doesn't make lobbying any less dangerous. They both suck; The ones who want to ban all guns, and the ones who want them in every toddlers hands.
There are really a bit to many tin foil hats going around in here right now ...
But what you call 'memes' is exactly what I am talking about ... and no, sorry it's not a meme when you share a fucking photoshoped image without making at least clear that it's photoshoped, or making outright false accusations. Like a webpage that is now deleted calling Gonzalez a professional actor from 1994.
Leftists again ... please americans wouldn't know what 'leftists' are if they hit them with a hammer. Seriously, 'left' has become a boogie man in the US, it's like used for everything these days where people don't even really know what it is. For some people everything that's not reading Breitbart is already left ... if we used US definitions for leftism, nations like France, Germany or Norway must be socialist dictatorship.
BigGuyCIA
Yer fond of me Lobster!
I fucking die on the inside when people say leftist or alt-right. You guys are throwing peanuts at each other in the stooges section of the circus.
Prone Squanderer
A bit of a Sillius Soddus.
At least they haven't used "cuck" yet.
TheGM
The voice of reason
Where the fuck does this happen? Vermont? A place with almost zero gun crime? It's just trolling to keep posting that at this point.
Well, I am a leftist.
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
It's as if you're completely ignorant of the existence of progressive blue states and only narrow-mindedly look at backwoods, bible-belt, trailer parks to confirm your worst prejudices. As someone who lives in a blue state, surrounded by other blue states, this depiction you've created in your mind (based on what first-hand experience?) is laughable and like some kind of boogie man itself.
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
More like Crni avoids what I have repeatedly told him about the U.S., primarily that there are a lot of people who want to ban shit using lies and deceit, emotion and drama over rational judgement. It is those same people who do their movement a disservice as acting like that simply turns people away from supporting them.
No waiting periods, WRONG.
Full Auto, WRONG. Converting semi-auto to full auto is ILLEGAL and nobody in their right minds would encourage someone to do so, definitely not the NRA.
Mass Murder Rifles, WRONG.
'They say tougher guns laws do not decrease gun violence.'
California and New York have a shit load of violence and they are blue as fuck, with some of the strictest firearm regulations in the country. WRONG.
No waiting periods, WRONG.
Full Auto, WRONG. Converting semi-auto to full auto is ILLEGAL and nobody in their right minds would encourage someone to do so, definitely not the NRA.
Mass Murder Rifles, WRONG.
'They say tougher guns laws do not decrease gun violence.'
California and New York have a shit load of violence and they are blue as fuck, with some of the strictest firearm regulations in the country. WRONG.
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Yes, my side is so ville for demanding changes to this.