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Lol no Antifa are literally domestic terrorists at this point.

they use violence and intimidation and harm civilians for politically motivated reasons. that's the most LITERAL definition of terrorist.

 

Disclaimer: I in no way condone or endorse the methods of Antifa

That said, it's quite misleading to refer to neo-nazis as civilians. Nazis are objectively shitty people who want to take away the rights of everyone who aren't like them. They are also extremely good at indoctrinating people by hiding their true intent behind dog whistles while appealing to people's deep-seated prejudices and fears, and they do not deserve to have a platform to spread their message.

However, while Antifa is going about combating them the wrong way.

 

just because someone believes evil things doesn't magically make them not citizens.

that said neo-nazis aren't the only people they've attacked.

they do the kind of shit they did in Charlottseville. ALL the time.

 

a) I literally just said that I did not condone Antifa.

b) It's absurd to equate communists and fascists. Communism is a theoretically good idea that doesn't work and often leads to authoritarian leaders taking power. Fascism is a horrific ideology that is centered around the idea of driving out and killing everyone who is at all different from you. Antifa is bad, but fascists are a hundred times worse.

 

except its not because in practice they are functionally the same thing and communism has had undeniably more horrific results.

they are literally the same thing.

what is antifa doing if not trying to hurt and intimidate or "drive out" those who think differently. its the same thing as neo nazis just from a different angle (political belief rather than race)

defending communism is like trying to defend isis. you're just gonna look daft.

 

Daft or no, I think we all need to take a step back. You don’t have to listen to me, but I’d prefer if we let this convo simmer down.

 

Here's the difference: Antifa seeks to silence people that it sees as bigoted. Fascists seek the extermination of everyone other than them. While Antifa's actions may be wrong, they aren't killing people, which is more than can be said of the alt-right.

 

which is literally everyone right of here:


or anyone else they disagree with.

wow they wanna hurt and defame and belittle people different to themselves? kinda sounds EXACTLY like neo nazis.

nah man they just go around creating situations that cause death and destruction.

see: charloteseville.

and believe me its only a matter of time.

making a distinction between two equally despicable groups of people is on the whole, pretty pointless from a moral perspective.

simmer is such a calming word isn't it.

i'm aware i got a bit heated but to see people defend such a blatant human rights violation because "lol the law said its ok" is without sugar coating it: absolutely repulsive.

 

@R.Graves I understand, man, I do. But to start shit slinging at eachother gets us nowhere. I’m actually on your side on this; but sometimes it’s best to let things be. Can’t change everyones’ mind and all that, yeah?

Side note; I’m Libertarian Filth! Yaaay

 

honestly i had no idea the cultural divide between America and Britain was so wide.

 

Has been since 1775, lol

 

1) Escalating a situation isn't nearly as bad as actually committing murder, and
2) Neo-nazis do far more than just hurt and defame people. That's the whole point.
3) Also, I would argue that the Nazis created the situation themselves by showing up in the first place, despite the rally being strongly condemned by basically everyone.

Fascism is not a thing that can be tolerated. Wherever it appears, it needs to be put down before it can spread. If it's left to be tolerated, it festers, corrupting everything it touches, until it's too late to easily stop. Especially now, with countries around the world experimenting with authoritarianism, we can't afford to just laugh off the threat.

 

I understand your point, but what happens when the solution becomes just as authoritarian as the problem?

EDIT: this is a rhetorical. I don’t wanna open this can of philosophical worms.

 

That shit was funny I don’t care what anyone says. The fact people are actively debating this is funny. Every facet of this entire drama is funny. You guys trying to never be wrong is funny. R.I.P. Patrice O’Niel. You reminded me it’s okay to laugh.

 

I just want this to end Mo. Make it stop

 

Well I think there were some rules broken. I think we know a guy that can really make it stop. I mean we aren’t even talking about trannies fighting in MMA anymore so...

 

Too late. The can has been opened. (Also, I didn't see your edit until I had started typing)
a) The solution doesn't have to be. For one thing, much, if not all, of the problem can be solved without governments being involved in the first place. This could happen in the form of a massive nationwide commitment to refuse to listen to fascists, white supremacists, white nationalists, and neo-confederates. Companies refusing to sponsor their websites, and the ones that do getting boycotted.
On a governmental scale, they need to be more active about declaring certain hate groups terrorist organizations and be vigilant about shutting them down.

 

Sorry.