Independent/Yes Man or Mr.House ending?

[Courier]

The only country that's really out of the question for Fallout is Japan, some countries would work better than others however such as Canada.

 

[outofthegamer]

Ok, so my argument about vaults is flawed. But how much of the information on computers, audio tapes, posters, and documents would be in english?

I mean would the game-makers put only the vital stuff in english and the rest in German? And if everything was in english - how much sense would that make?

I understand that I am being very english-focused, but from a game-selling standpoint; english needs to be the main spoken and written language, because of the US's game buying market being the core of any game's profit-making ability.

 

[Walpknut]

If its in England that wouldn't be a problem, or if they just make use of willing suspension of disbelief, when you play a game set in a foreing land and you play it in english do you find it imposible to play because they are speaking english when they should not be?

 

[outofthegamer]

If its in England that wouldn't be a problem, or if they just make use of willing suspension of disbelief, when you play a game set in a foreing land and you play it in english do you find it imposible to play because they are speaking english when they should not be?

valid idea is valid.

 

[Stanislao Moulinsky]

Fallout is about the Lore, the aftermath of the Great War, how humanity reacts to it and rebuilds itself.

Because of the lack of vaults in most other countries, there is no lore or aftermath, or rebuilding. Just a bunch of dead people.

Mexico had no vaults but we know that there were survivors.

 

[outofthegamer]

Fallout is about the Lore, the aftermath of the Great War, how humanity reacts to it and rebuilds itself.

Because of the lack of vaults in most other countries, there is no lore or aftermath, or rebuilding. Just a bunch of dead people.

Mexico had no vaults but we know that there were survivors.

yeah..

Ok, so my argument about vaults is flawed.

I know.

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

I mean would the game-makers put only the vital stuff in english and the rest in German? And if everything was in english - how much sense would that make?

As much sense as the STALKER games or practically every WW2 game ever made or Half Life 2, Call of Duty Modern Warfare etc. Or any game since the beginning of gaming, not set in an English speaking country. Or as much sense as the localized versions of Fallout that have everyone in America speaking French, Russian, German etc.

 

[outofthegamer]

I mean would the game-makers put only the vital stuff in english and the rest in German? And if everything was in english - how much sense would that make?

As much sense as the STALKER games or practically every WW2 game ever made or Half Life 2, Call of Duty Modern Warfare etc. Or any game since the beginning of gaming, not set in an English speaking country. Or as much sense as the localized versions of Fallout that have everyone in America speaking French, Russian, German etc.

yes, we established that.

If its in England that wouldn't be a problem, or if they just make use of willing suspension of disbelief, when you play a game set in a foreing land and you play it in english do you find it imposible to play because they are speaking english when they should not be?

valid idea is valid.

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

yes, we established that.

Did you? Really? Seems to me that you failed to grasp that video games have been published internationally in a variety of languages for as long as there have been video games. Or that for the majority of the planet have coped with characters speaking languages totally foreign to the setting since, well going all the way back to the translation of the bible. I mean given the number of books and films set in non English speaking lands in English you'd have to be pretty dumb to ask the question in the first place.

 

[outofthegamer]

you'd have to be pretty dumb to ask the question in the first place.

You'd have to be pretty dumb to think that it's not easier to put the next Fallout Game somewhere in the United States. I mean, that is what we are really talking about here.

Putting the game in Europe might make a few r-tards around here nerdgasm in their pants, but it would be a foolish marketing decision. Think about what you say before you try to re-start a flame-war that already ended.

 

[Walpknut]

Try to make an argument instead of just sayign somethign is stupid? Why would it be a bad a Idea to set a Fallout game in another country? Fallout has a steady European fanbase, USA is not the only country in the world you know?

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

You'd have to be pretty dumb to think that it's not easier to put the next Fallout Game somewhere in the United States. I mean, that is what we are really talking about here.

It would certainly be easier, lazier even than having to work at converting the Fallout setting to another culture and not being able to fall back on any of the previous factions or creatures.

Putting the game in Europe might make a few r-tards around here nerdgasm in their pants, but it would be a foolish marketing decision. Think about what you say before you try to re-start a flame-war that already ended.

Flame war, if you think that was a flame war did you want to buy a nice bridge over the Thames, it's only slightly used. And the only one trying to start a flame war is you, stop insulting people for having valid ideas. Moving the Half Life series from Black Mesa to Eastern Europe didn't do Valve any harm, do you really think the masses that came to Fallout via Fallout 3 really care where it's set as long as they get a cool sandbox to dick around in and a bunch of achievements to collect.

 

[outofthegamer]

stop insulting people for having valid ideas.

I didn't insult anyone. I said, and I quote, "valid idea is valid".

It was over at that point. You are beating a dead horse!

*I really wanted to use that emoticon*

Try to make an argument instead of just sayign somethign is stupid? Why would it be a bad a Idea to set a Fallout game in another country? Fallout has a steady European fanbase, USA is not the only country in the world you know?

I honestly don't think it's a bad idea or stupid. I have quoted myself saying that it is valid more than once already.

But from a purely marketing strategy standpoint, it is a mistake. The U.S. is not the only country in the world, but do I really have to explain how pandering to the target audience is a good idea, to you? the U.S. is, and ALWAYS will be the target audience. Sorry! I am not a flag-pumping patriot, but it's a fact -- nothing against Europe.

Can we please let this dead dog lie?

 

[requiem_for_a_starfury]

I didn't insult anyone.

Putting the game in Europe might make a few r-tards around here nerdgasm in their pants

But from a purely marketing strategy standpoint, it is a mistake. The U.S. is not the only country in the world, but do I really have to explain how pandering to the target audience is a good idea, to you? the U.S. is, and ALWAYS will be the target audience. Sorry! I am not a flag-pumping patriot, but it's a fact -- nothing against Europe.

Call of Duty Black Ops, Assassins Creed Brotherhood, Halo Reach, Mass Effect 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Medal of Honor, Red Dead Redemption. All of these games outsold Fallout New Vegas last year how many are set in America? Hmm.

 

[outofthegamer]

Call of Duty Black Ops, Assassins Creed Brotherhood, Halo Reach, Mass Effect 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Medal of Honor, Red Dead Redemption. All of these games outsold Fallout New Vegas last year how many are set in America? Hmm.

You are a retard! CoD: B.O., Battlefield: B.C. 2, and Medal of Honor are about AMERICAN soldiers fighting wars. Mass Effect 2: I'm pretty sure is in space. Assassin's Creed takes place in The U.S or Canada (with the main character dreaming that he is in Italy), and Red Dead Redemption is in AMERICA! And Halo Reach... I don't even care -- that is the most fucking retarded game franchise ever...you fail.

Not only did you fail, but you missed the point entirely. Putting a Fallout game outside the U.S. has nothing to do with other games being outside the U.S., it has to do with all other FALLOUT games being in the U.S.

But from a purely marketing strategy standpoint, it is a mistake. The U.S. is not the only country in the world, but do I really have to explain how pandering to the target audience is a good idea, to you? the U.S. is, and ALWAYS will be the target audience. Sorry! I am not a flag-pumping patriot, but it's a fact -- nothing against Europe.

And learn how to quote people. I said this, not Walpknut. DERP!!!

But keep trying please. If you're lucky, you will get the internet prize for derp-failing.

 

[Walpknut]

Can't you just have a civil argument? you mostly resort to cheap insults and using "YOU LOST THE INTERWEBZ" or "derp" over and over again, not actualy giving any counter arguments, Assassins Creed may tecnicaly take place in canada, but what most people remember is Reinassance Italy in that game, and it sold like hot bread, so, give counter arguments, are you saying that people from the USA can't play a game taking place in another country because it makes them remember that there are other countries? or what exactly are you implyng?

 

[outofthegamer]

Having other games take place outside the U.S. has nothing to do with putting the next Fallout game outside the U.S. It has to do with all other FALLOUT games being in the U.S.

The entire mythology of the Fallout series has to do with people in the U.S. after it's war with China. I am shocked that I have to explain that to the so-called Fallout fans here.

Can't you just have a civil argument? you mostly resort to cheap insults and using "YOU LOST THE INTERWEBZ" or "derp" over and over again?

Sorry but this guy is a derp. look at his sig:

"Old age should burn and rave at close of day;"

I could understand his poor sentence structure if he was not a native english speaker, or if he is 9 years old.... but if I had to guess, he has neither of those excuses to fall back on. how hard is it to put a period at the end of the sentence, or put a "the" before "day"???

 

[Walpknut]

EUrope also played in the resources war, it was a worldwide situation, and the nuclear fallout affected most of the Planet too, Fallout shouldn't be restricted to happen in the USA, there is a lot of potental, a lot of different situations after the war affected by geography, culture, etc that would present new and different aftermaths to the fallout.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

I am shocked that I have to explain that to the so-called Fallout fans here.

Having your own opinion is one thing, starting to insult others for their is another.

 

[outofthegamer]

I am shocked that I have to explain that to the so-called Fallout fans here.

Having your own opinion is one thing, starting to insult others for their is another.

Sorry buddy, but...

The entire mythology of the Fallout series has to do with people in the U.S. after it's war with China.

is not my opinion. That's a fact.

edit: the really sad part about this whole thing is: I would enjoy a Fallout game set in another country, just as much as any of you. And I actually said it was a VALID idea, earlier in the topic. But Requiem for a Starfury just had to keep hounding me, even when I said the disagreement was settled, he kept at it. I tried to reason with him, but he acts like a scared animal, and can not be reasoned with.