Independent/Yes Man or Mr.House ending?

You know what a coutnerargument is? because you only seem to repeat yoru statement over and over again, The mythology of Fallout is rooted to the retrofuturistic world that led to the Fallout, and in that world a lot of countries were playing important roles, the first games took place in USA, so? why can't they move the setting to another country?
 
The art and design, music and culture of Fallout is so distinctly Americana that is would be a pretty big departure to move it outside America. It is not impossible to set the game elsewhere, but it would definitely have a different feel to it. It would also probably require different developers to work on it.

What I would like to see is a game based mostly in America that spills into Mexico and/or Canada. Old world borders are meaningless and so their is no reason a game set near the border would have to pay much attention to them. This would give the player a chance to see how non-US cultures have coped with world but keep the American setting. I wouldn't have minding a New Vegas DLC where you follow Raul to Mexico to kill banditos or something like that.
 
Walpknut said:
You know what a coutnerargument is? because you only seem to repeat yoru statement over and over again, The mythology of Fallout is rooted to the retrofuturistic world that led to the Fallout, and in that world a lot of countries were playing important roles, the first games took place in USA, so? why can't they move the setting to another country?
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I know what a counterarguement is. It should not even be needed. I agree with what ramessesjones said, but WHY should I bother to write that? That should be common knowledge among Fallout fans.

ramessesjones said:
What I would like to see is a game based mostly in America that spills into Mexico and/or Canada
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I would even go so far as to say, I would like to see missions or DLC take place in Europe, China, or even Russia. But as already said, it would make more sense to start out in America, and then travel to those places for specific purposes.
 
Perhaps people remember my suggestion for a Fallout in Europe based on the Fallout Yurop project for Fallout 2 from a couple a couple of years ago.

My idea was sort of intended as a spin off; Fallout Yurop Berlin.

I choose Germany on purpose as the country even in reality is sort of on the border of East and West.

After WW2 the country was influenced by the United States but also by the Soviet Union, culture, technology, and architecture as both sides were in league with Bundesrepublik Deutchland and the DDR.

I had Fallout Germany in mind as a combination of American culture and optimism, local styles such as Bauhaus, and Soviet ideas and architecture in the East.

I think this could work as a spin off to the main US based series.
 
outofthegamer said:
Not only did you fail, but you missed the point entirely. Putting a Fallout game outside the U.S. has nothing to do with other games being outside the U.S., it has to do with all other FALLOUT games being in the U.S.
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Which wasn't your argument at all. It's ironic because I happen to agree that a Fallout game outside America would lose a great part of it's ambiance. But your argument was it wouldn't sell if it wasn't aimed at the target audience, and we those who care that it's set in the 50's view of the world of the future and not just the 50's are not the target audience. Thirteen year old Xbox and PS3 gamers are the target audience and do you really think they all care so much about Americana that they wouldn't buy another Bethesda sandbox game. Where they could still go around shooting things with mini nukes, just because it wasn't set in America?

outofthegamer said:
And learn how to quote people. I said this, not Walpknut. DERP!!!
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Oh no I made a simple mistake on the internet my life is over, sorry Walpknut I didn't mean to assign this guy's words to you.

outofthegamer said:
Sorry but this guy is a derp. look at his sig:

"Old age should burn and rave at close of day;"

I could understand his poor sentence structure if he was not a native english speaker, or if he is 9 years old.... but if I had to guess, he has neither of those excuses to fall back on. how hard is it to put a period at the end of the sentence, or put a "the" before "day"???
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You do know what poetry is right? You do know that's a line from a very famous poem, oh right you're the guy who didn't know how a game could be set in a non-english speaking country and still be understood by an English audience. A bit much to expect you to know some literature.
 
ramessesjones said:
The art and design, music and culture of Fallout is so distinctly Americana that is would be a pretty big departure to move it outside America.
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Funny thing is, the original games weren't that much Americana.
There was no constant talk about the old world and there was hardly any architecture left.
Hell, barely anyone knew that the Boneyard was L.A. once.
And the architectural style wasn't that much Americana but an amalgamation of several futuristic art styles.
And there were no oldies except for the Ink-Spots during the credits!
The original Fallout games were not about the US or US citizens. Few even knew about the US. Culture? None to speak of.
That whole Americana-thing was introduced by Fallout 3, and in my opinion, that was not really a smart move, it's a distraction and pointloss.
Fallout 1 was a game about a post-nuclear wasteland.
Fallout 3 was a game about post-nuclear America.
 
Funny thing is, the original games weren't that much Americana.
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I disagree, the opening video in Fallout has retro American music, the Vault-Tec video, the news reel footage, War Bonds advertisment, and Corvega commercial, its all atomic age America; Fallout 2 is similar and that is all before you start playing the game. Once the game starts you see the Vault suits, the design of the computers and robots, and especially the graphic design especially the Vault boy and Vault Tec stuff and the welcome cards for the world map location. It was there right in the first game, it might not be as obvious as Fallout 3, but it was major theme.
 
I dont think the Fallout series HAS to be set in the USA but the question is 'why set it anywhere else'. The US is a huge country area and climate wise that can be the host to wide array of game settings. From desert to urban to mountains its all readily available so i dont see the sense in moving it anywhere else.

Culturally it also seems unnecessary as you can use the post apocaliptic reason to create just about any culture/society you wanted (Caesars legion)

I'm not at all opposed to moving fallout elsewhere if there is a good reason to. But unless its gonna be something really unique and interesting i dont see it as necessary.
 
outofthegamer said:
Learn how to quote poetry then, derp.
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You are labouring under a misapprehension that I could give a flying fuck.

Hassknecht said:
Funny thing is, the original games weren't that much Americana.
There was no constant talk about the old world and there was hardly any architecture left.
Hell, barely anyone knew that the Boneyard was L.A. once.
And the architectural style wasn't that much Americana but an amalgamation of several futuristic art styles.
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The original games were based on a simple premise 'The World of Tomorrow' gone post apocalyptic, as envisioned by a sci-fi pulp fiction writer in the 1950's. The architecture and technology was very much influenced by the 1939 Worlds Fair in New York.
 
You do realise that if you say 'derp', it's the sort of doing battle with monsters, right? Because I don't believe that will get through to you, it makes you sound like a fourteen year idiot who doesn't have the balls to just up and say that they think somebody is retarded and/or an idiot or the put down of your choice; it's like saying 'fail' all it means it that you are an abyss for culture. which in turns brings up the other thing I mentioned before which I'm doubting you'll get.

Sorry for the derail but goddamn pet peeves am I right or am I damn right?
 
oh so wecommathatgetsraisedupre at goddamned hell yeah motherfucker right

good to know

shift2outofthegamercolon tyia in advance for making the same bad attempts at flaming so i can continue to laugh at your posts while putting zero effort into mine
 
Wintermind said:
oh so wecommathatgetsraisedupre at goddamned hell yeah motherfucker right

good to know

shift2outofthegamercolon tyia in advance for making the same bad attempts at flaming so i can continue to laugh at your posts while putting zero effort into mine
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And you call my posts unintelligible?!?

You sir, are a hypocrite. I needn't waste any more time lowering myself to your level, by bothering to feed the flames or your incivility.
 
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

you are implying that I have ever actually flamed youquestionmark

i have done no such or atleast intended no such thing

all i have done is mock your ideas and not with out reasons openparenthesisbecause they were terriblecloseparenthesis

editcolon i donapostrophet think you quite understand what opensinglequotehypocritclosesinglequote meansperiod

pscolon this is hilarious btw
 
I think we need a moderator to vat some posts here. Stop going off topic, both write uninteligible shit, end of the off topic discussion, now back on topic.
 
Wintermind said:
you are implying that I have ever actually flamed youquestionmark
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You poor, unfortunate soul. I sympathize with your plight. Not understanding english in this day and age is truly a fault of your parents and/or caretakers. And I have half a mind to give them a stern talking to.

outofthegamer said:
feed the flames or your incivility.
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This means that if I am rude to you, that you will be rude back. Another word for rude is incivil; and the act of being incivil is called incivility.

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ON TOPIC: Independent ending could be canon. imo.
 
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