It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down.

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Akratus, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. AgentBJ09

    AgentBJ09 A Smooth-Skin

    Jul 9, 2015
    I know what you were saying, but all it was was an excuse to write off what Metacritic, or any open reviewing site, allows. That being opinions directly from users/buyers. By the way, whatever happened to judging these reviews by the content they contain instead of some vague worry about review spamming?

    ASNd while we're on that subject, positive reviews written to "balance out the troll ones." You can't say with a straight face that that's not review spamming.
     
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  2. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    No, but saying it's worthless especially concerning Fallout 4 is stupid, especially as same company who made Fallout 4 used it.
     
  3. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    So I guess they have no right to give the game a negative review for Bethesda fucking them over and Steam locking the game? Come on man. :whatever:
     
  4. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Yeah it's funny how negative reviews are trolling and positive reviews are not.
     
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  5. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    If it was Obsidian they wouldn't get a free pass but you know it's Bethesda so it's okay.
     
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  6. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    "Its a feature and fixing it would ruin its charm!" :evil:
     
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  7. Someguy37

    Someguy37 Mildly Dipped

    Nov 18, 2015
    >Bethesda fucked them over by expecting people to have semi-modern internet connections.
    Sorry you like in backwater hick town, but your inability to get an internet connection with speeds from 5 years ago isn't Bethesda's fault, nor does it have anything to do with the quality of the game.
     
  8. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Yeah it would. We WANT Bethesda games to be buggy!
     
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  9. AgentBJ09

    AgentBJ09 A Smooth-Skin

    Jul 9, 2015
    I shouldn't dignify that with a reply of any kind, but here's a nugget for you nonetheless. Pete Hines said they did for anti-piracy reasons. Nothing more.

    Guess what? Still had PC leaks a week before launch. So, yeah, once you strip away the fancy talk, it's just another bullshit way to devalue physical media.
     
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  10. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    I do LIKE my hick backwater town so thank you!:grin: Whats funny is that I have a great internet connection dispute living in the backwoods of nowhere and it only took me a hour to download this mediocre game and then return it after 2 hours because it was a buggy piece of shit! You are really grasping at straws when it comes to Bethesda defense. Bethesda shouldn't have Steam locked their game pure and simple. That was BS on their part.
     
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  11. AgentBJ09

    AgentBJ09 A Smooth-Skin

    Jul 9, 2015
    It's bullshit when anyone does it. Extra features or not, Steam is not necessary for single-player games, which Bethesda games, among many others, are.
     
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  12. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    Steam workshop isn't being used for modding either so I don't see the point in Steam locking it.
     
  13. SaucyLad

    SaucyLad Stuck in a Fridge

    Nov 20, 2015
    Yeah they should've included MOST (not all) of the game data on multiple DVD's/a single blu-ray disc. But still there's nothing wrong with them having anti-piracy interests.

    @DrFallout: As far as I know only the Steam pre-load files got leaked early to the masses. Even if you managed to decrypt/decompress those files you still would not be able to play the game because not all of the games files were downloaded with the pre-load.
     
  14. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Fair enough.
     
  15. LynnetteJJW

    LynnetteJJW First time out of the vault

    Jun 7, 2012
    quote
    "awesome game" it is
    but its a bad fallout
     
  16. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    So basically, unless you've bought and played it you shouldn't be allowed to do a critical piece on it on a site that collects critical pieces? How about fuck that? Yeah, the Metacritic system can be abused. I ain't gonna argue against that. But people can judge things by simply researching them. Fans for example who knows the series inside and out can easily look at gameplay videos and read up one what others have found in the game and judge it. Why the hell should they, who heavily oppose the new game, be forced to buy the damn thing and give the publisher/developer --who is now ruining the series they love-- money just so that they can be taken seriously?

    It'd be better IMO if Steam allowed people to make reviews on games they haven't bought, but wouldn't be allowed to mark them as Positive or Negative, instead it gets marked as Negative/Positive Observation or something. And this can only happen if you have a Steam account that is "registered". Basically, if you've owned a steam account for half a year, made purchases for up to 60 bucks on it and haven't violated any rules so you're strike-free for 6 months 'then' you're allowed to make an Observation piece. That way we who don't want to waste money on the game can make our voice heard, we're allowed to steer the score with our piece just like anyone else, and it is less likely to be abused as there are several prerequisites you need to meet before you can make such a review.

    But since we don't have something like that we have to make do with what we have. And what we have is Metacritic. We who refuse to buy the title because we can see how obvious it is that it is steering off of its path should also be taken seriously. Besides, Metacritic's been removing the 0 reviews that just go "fuck this game" and left the ones that offer some kinda insight as to why it was rated so low.
     
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  17. Kilus

    Kilus Not Australian Orderite

    May 3, 2003
    Did you guys know Bethesda is without sin?
     
  18. miceelf

    miceelf First time out of the vault

    Nov 9, 2015
    Is this a serious suggestion?
     
  19. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    People ask me, how can he be our Messiah and God?

    And I remember, and say, that Todd, the Howard, is not just our Lord and Saviour, but also sacrificed himself for the gameplay on the altar of development to bring us the new next-gen testament to replace what is old, and to make a new world in which everyone, old and young, intelligent or not, can enjoy the Fallout, as how it was promised.

    And, he can be all of this, because he's the game developer we deserve, but not the game developer we need right now.
     
  20. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Steam has 6,000 "NOT RECOMMENDED" reviews which is 3 times more than Fallout 3, and the "RECOMMENDED" reviews for Fallout 4 are also pretty bad a lot of the time. Metacritic has no disparity between user score and professional critic score on other major games - Fallout 3, Oblivion, Skyrim, Witcher 3 - everywhere you look user scores are near critic scores EXCEPT Fallout 4. So guess what? Fallout 4 is bad, it is not Fallout, and the people are voicing that. And the fanboys are all trying to write it off and shield their beloved corporations from the tyranny of consumer reviews. You know what happens when a company makes a bad product and dismisses its end-users' feedback? Bethesda will become the likes of EA in the public eye.

    Stop trying to make Metacritic Illuminati Conspiracy happen. The game is mediocre at best and the user scores reflect that no matter where you look.Except if you look at "professional video game critics" AKA people with no journalism degree who picked up a video camera one day and started yelling on Youtube so much that publishers now court them for good reviews. Those reviews are largely "100/100 most hardcore rpg evar!"
     
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