"Kid In The Fridge" Quest = the stupidest quest ever.

Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.
I have a feeling if Fallout was made by someone else and taken in a grittier, darker direction this game would look a lot more like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Metro with a lot of weird monsters out there.

That Night Terror from Wasteland 2 still gives me the willies.
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.
I have a feeling if Fallout was made by someone else and taken in a grittier, darker direction this game would look a lot more like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Metro with a lot of weird monsters out there.

That Night Terror from Wasteland 2 still gives me the willies.

Is that really bad after what Bethesda did? Not for me.
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.

They could have done something like that. Some mutation caused him to go into a stasis of sorts.

Ghoul physiology allowed him to hibernate instead of freezing to death.
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.

They could have done something like that. Some mutation caused him to go into a stasis of sorts.

Ghoul physiology allowed him to hibernate instead of freezing to death.

So like a bear except without the oxygen apart. Sounds legit. Why was he awake when I ran by then? Did I startle him out of hibernation sleep?
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.

They could have done something like that. Some mutation caused him to go into a stasis of sorts.

Ghoul physiology allowed him to hibernate instead of freezing to death.

So like a bear except without the oxygen apart. Sounds legit. Why was he awake when I ran by then? Did I startle him out of hibernation sleep?

I'm sure he spent the 200+ years watching the skin on his body shrivel up and talking to himself. Was there even any ice in that fridge?
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.

They could have done something like that. Some mutation caused him to go into a stasis of sorts.

Ghoul physiology allowed him to hibernate instead of freezing to death.

So like a bear except without the oxygen apart. Sounds legit. Why was he awake when I ran by then? Did I startle him out of hibernation sleep?

I'm sure he spent the 200+ years watching the skin on his body shrivel up and talking to himself. Was there even any ice in that fridge?

The fridge couldn't work in the first place. Any ice would be melted. Whoever wrote the quest didn't give a fuck or they assumed Ghouls are like zombies.
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.

They could have done something like that. Some mutation caused him to go into a stasis of sorts.

Ghoul physiology allowed him to hibernate instead of freezing to death.

So like a bear except without the oxygen apart. Sounds legit. Why was he awake when I ran by then? Did I startle him out of hibernation sleep?

I'm sure he spent the 200+ years watching the skin on his body shrivel up and talking to himself. Was there even any ice in that fridge?

The fridge couldn't work in the first place. Any ice would be melted. Whoever wrote the quest didn't give a fuck or they assumed Ghouls are like zombies.

*Sees how they're represented in-game*
Yeah let's go with they treat them like zombies.
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.

They could have done something like that. Some mutation caused him to go into a stasis of sorts.

Ghoul physiology allowed him to hibernate instead of freezing to death.

So like a bear except without the oxygen apart. Sounds legit. Why was he awake when I ran by then? Did I startle him out of hibernation sleep?

No, like an insect, nearly frozen solid. I meant that that's how they should have done it if they wanted the quest. Make it some limited fusion powered fridge for additional laughs. I'm part of the Fev ghoul camp so I'm probably the furthest possible person from liking the magical quantum zombie approach.
 
Frankly I want to see more humanoid creatures in Fallout that aren't Ghouls, Super Mutants, or Robots/Synths.

They could have done something like that. Some mutation caused him to go into a stasis of sorts.

Ghoul physiology allowed him to hibernate instead of freezing to death.

So like a bear except without the oxygen apart. Sounds legit. Why was he awake when I ran by then? Did I startle him out of hibernation sleep?

No, like an insect, nearly frozen solid. I meant that that's how they should have done it if they wanted the quest. Make it some limited fusion powered fridge for additional laughs. I'm part of the Fev ghoul camp so I'm probably the furthest possible person from liking the magical quantum zombie approach.

Hey me too! I support the idea that ghouls were made through FEV, which altered their physiology to survive the mass amounts of radiation, even as it had it's physical effects.
 
I originally thought Ghouls were created through a combination of 'wild FEV' and radiation exposure, messing up the transformation process.
But I am in the camp of radiation now, that and a combination of other elements and a long span of time and exposure.

Alternatively; after reading a fan made theory that Ghoulism is genetically related; only some people are genetically dis-positioned to become Ghouls, most people just die from radiation poisoning.

I do think we should have seen more unique humanoid mutants like the mutant cannibals that were planned for Van Buren, I guess the tunnelers have replaced them.
No more Ghouls and Super Mutants large numbers, especially not feral Ghouls and Super Mutants that just exist to be killed.

But who am I saying it to, Fallout is now run by people who don't understand what the franchise is about and a marketing department .
 
I originally thought Ghouls were created through a combination of 'wild FEV' and radiation exposure, messing up the transformation process.
But I am in the camp of radiation now, that and a combination of other elements and a long span of time and exposure.

Alternatively; after reading a fan made theory that Ghoulism is genetically related; only some people are genetically dis-positioned to become Ghouls, most people just die from radiation poisoning.

I do think we should have seen more unique humanoid mutants like the mutant cannibals that were planned for Van Buren, I guess the tunnelers have replaced them.
No more Ghouls and Super Mutants large numbers, especially not feral Ghouls and Super Mutants that just exist to be killed.

But who am I saying it to, Fallout is now run by people who don't understand what the franchise is about and a marketing department .

90% of their income goes to marketing.
 
I originally thought Ghouls were created through a combination of 'wild FEV' and radiation exposure, messing up the transformation process.
But I am in the camp of radiation now, that and a combination of other elements and a long span of time and exposure.

Alternatively; after reading a fan made theory that Ghoulism is genetically related; only some people are genetically dis-positioned to become Ghouls, most people just die from radiation poisoning.

I do think we should have seen more unique humanoid mutants like the mutant cannibals that were planned for Van Buren, I guess the tunnelers have replaced them.
No more Ghouls and Super Mutants large numbers, especially not feral Ghouls and Super Mutants that just exist to be killed.

But who am I saying it to, Fallout is now run by people who don't understand what the franchise is about and a marketing department .

There is no way radiation can give you anything but cancer at best or slowly cook you at worst. With a small dose of fev it starts to mitigate the effects of the radiation the moment it spreads in your body, competition between Fev given vitality and radiation disease gives you your twisted body. Ghouls are a poor man's supermutants with radiation disease.
 
I originally thought Ghouls were created through a combination of 'wild FEV' and radiation exposure, messing up the transformation process.
But I am in the camp of radiation now, that and a combination of other elements and a long span of time and exposure.

Alternatively; after reading a fan made theory that Ghoulism is genetically related; only some people are genetically dis-positioned to become Ghouls, most people just die from radiation poisoning.

I do think we should have seen more unique humanoid mutants like the mutant cannibals that were planned for Van Buren, I guess the tunnelers have replaced them.
No more Ghouls and Super Mutants large numbers, especially not feral Ghouls and Super Mutants that just exist to be killed.

But who am I saying it to, Fallout is now run by people who don't understand what the franchise is about and a marketing department .

There is no way radiation can give you anything but cancer at best or slowly cook you at worst. With a small dose of fev it starts to mitigate the effects of the radiation the moment it spreads in your body, competition between Fev given vitality and radiation disease gives you your twisted body. Ghouls are a poor man's supermutants with radiation disease.

Radiation works differently in the Fallout-universe. There it actually can lead to becoming a ghoul.
Personally I thought it would happen more rarely and only under certain conditions (like long-term, low to medium intensity exposure), but since Moira had to survive a nuclear blast it's now radiation -> ghoul.
 
The children of atom anyone? How could they even survive in glowing sea?

Because reasons.
Under Bethesda the franchise really flip-flops on what radiation actually does to you.
In the originals it would ghoulify you, but only in just the right conditions, or kill you, slowly if in small doses, or quickly in big ones.
Here it either Ghoulifies you or doesn't really do much to you. It doesn't seem to kill much anymore.
And the instant ghoulification after tanking a full-size nuclear bomb on your face is just... Ehh.
 
I originally thought Ghouls were created through a combination of 'wild FEV' and radiation exposure, messing up the transformation process.
But I am in the camp of radiation now, that and a combination of other elements and a long span of time and exposure.

Alternatively; after reading a fan made theory that Ghoulism is genetically related; only some people are genetically dis-positioned to become Ghouls, most people just die from radiation poisoning.

I do think we should have seen more unique humanoid mutants like the mutant cannibals that were planned for Van Buren, I guess the tunnelers have replaced them.
No more Ghouls and Super Mutants large numbers, especially not feral Ghouls and Super Mutants that just exist to be killed.

But who am I saying it to, Fallout is now run by people who don't understand what the franchise is about and a marketing department .

There is no way radiation can give you anything but cancer at best or slowly cook you at worst. With a small dose of fev it starts to mitigate the effects of the radiation the moment it spreads in your body, competition between Fev given vitality and radiation disease gives you your twisted body. Ghouls are a poor man's supermutants with radiation disease.

Radiation works differently in the Fallout-universe. There it actually can lead to becoming a ghoul.
Personally I thought it would happen more rarely and only under certain conditions (like long-term, low to medium intensity exposure), but since Moira had to survive a nuclear blast it's now radiation -> ghoul.

This explanation is nonsense, genetics was way more secretive for the 50s public than radiation so the basis on which some poor sap introduced this explanation is worthless.
 
Even in Fallout, the radiation should not be confused simply with Magic though. Like the stuff you see in Skyrim, where almost everything is permitted. For example, I had always the feeling that radiation made people for the most in Fallout, simply sick, just like in the real world. That's at least the idea I got from places like the Glow, Gecko and Vault city and so on.
 
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