Lamest Fallout 3 Ideas Ever:

[Kahgan]

The joy, the joy!

popcorn for everyone!

 

[Bloodlust]

Oh crap,not another one...

*grabs popcorn and waits for the cockroach crushing*

 

[Roshambo]

I know I'll be crushed because of this, but...

I'm a huge fan of fallout, but not of the game itself, but of the universe, atmosphere, etc. That's why I don't really disagree with changing the game basic characteristics, like for example, the isometric view.

Yeah, well if gameplay doesn't matter to you, then get someone who does like the game to play it for you as you sit and watch.

TES model is... kind of good, since they make a good ranged combat and use the SPECIAL attributes, with the same system of the classic fallout.

First, starting from Morrowind, TES ranged combat has sucked ass.

Especially if you heve noticed the Radiant AI.

Furthermore, if you try to say that TES and Fallout have the same stats, congratulations you fucking retard, you only looked at the stat names instead of the stat mechanics.

The third-first person perspective is good because really puts you inside the game, and I'm saying this because once I was playing BF and driving an old pick up in the desert, and this really was very fallouty for me. But is really the only thing that can be used in the TES style.

Unfortunately it doesn't suit the FALLOUT style, in particular the point about being the sequel to "a post-nuclear role-playing game", which means that you do not play in twitchfest combat. Thanks for the attempted troll, though Now you can bother to lurk and read previous topics about this subject before I simply split-Vat this.

*Goes to add first-person view and associated mechanics to the list, but finds that it's already there.*

What, did someone change the title of this thread to "Post Stupid Shit Here" while I wasn't looking?

 

[Bloodlust]

I had a chat today with a friend at university and all he could tell was how awsome oblivion is,how it's the only game that offered him the same kind of freedom as fallout,how awsome the dialogue is,how first person kickz azz,how oblivion is the only game that reminded him of fallout (list goes on and on and on....).So,his point was that bethsoft should make fallout 3 exactly like Oblivion.I think that this deserves a spot in this poll

 

[Eldask]

calm down o.O
the gameplay of both fallouts just sucks... that's why i'm saying that it doesn't matter for me if they change it... sorry if I don't like to spend hours fighting in that stupid easily exploited combat system

about general gameplay, isn't sooo bad, but can be better... that game have almost 10 years

and i've said that they should TRY to fit the SPECIAL attributes, skills, etc, to a gameplay somewhat like the TES gameplay, just this... i've played massively both games and i know that they're differents dickhead

and i still think that first person is a very good perspective. If you think that doesn't fit in the fallout style, that's your problem... there're many "suggestions" in the pool that really are stupidy, but some are just opinions... i thought we could find some serious discussions here...

 

[Kan-Kerai]

If you "modify" SPECIAL to fit TES-style "gameplay", then it's no longer SPECIAL, now is it? It would be the system in name only, as SPECIAL was MADE for Fallout's style of gameplay- nothing else.

FOT tried to kludge SPECIAL into a pseudo-real time "tactical action" system.
Lionheart attempted to skullfuck SPECIAL into a real time (ADHD) system.
And now you want Bethesda to attempt to put SPECIAL into a real-time, First Person Action "RPG"? See where this is going, by any chance?

Anyway...tweaks. That's all that's needed, as SPECIAL is a flawed system [this is just my opinion]. However, it's a flawed system that comes very close to what it was aimed at- complete player freedom [P&P style]. Something Morrowind and Oblivion are LACKING, no matter what BethSoft would have you believe.

PS: Why the heck did you even bother playing F1/2, and bother posting on a Fallout series message board, when you allegedly think their gameplay sucks? You're a troll, and not even a intelligent one. You should skip over to RPGCodex for some lessons.

 

[Roshambo]

calm down o.O
the gameplay of both fallouts just sucks... that's why i'm saying that it doesn't matter for me if they change it... sorry if I don't like to spend hours fighting in that stupid easily exploited combat system

While the combat could stand an improvement, coming onto the oldest and largest fan site and claiming that the gameplay sucks is hardly the brightest bit of flamebait that you could post.

about general gameplay, isn't sooo bad, but can be better... that game have almost 10 years

Yeah...here's a suggestion, go back to the GameSpy forums.

and i've said that they should TRY to fit the SPECIAL attributes, skills, etc, to a gameplay somewhat like the TES gameplay, just this... i've played massively both games and i know that they're differents dickhead

Yes, and what part of "ROLE PLAYING GAME" absolutely fails your understanding? I can tell it has easily missed your understanding, since it only means "it has stats, hurrr, hurr, hurr" to you. Back in the real world, Oblivion nor TES were CRPGs, while Fallout was.

The distinct difference is that in TES, it's an action game based upon the player's reflexes. With Fallout and any other real CRPG, it depends upon the character's.

and i still think that first person is a very good perspective. If you think that doesn't fit in the fallout style, that's your problem...

No, it's YOUR problem, since you haven't really explained a damn thing, just posted "FP view would be KEWWWL!" without bothering to really explain how it wouldn't fuck up the game from being a CRPG. And if you're telling us it shouldn't be a CRPG, then just leave these forums now.

there're many "suggestions" in the pool that really are stupidy, but some are just opinions... i thought we could find some serious discussions here...

By what? Saying that the gameplay sucks to your ADHD or crackheaded preference, and that you can't wrap your mind around a role-playing game? Then here's a hint - don't play role-playing games and go back to whatever twitch gameplay you prefer. Your argument is like someone going to the Heroes of Might and Magic fan forums ans saying it should be RTS because they didn't like the TB gameplay and thought it sucked.

 

[Sander]

calm down o.O
the gameplay of both fallouts just sucks... that's why i'm saying that it doesn't matter for me if they change it... sorry if I don't like to spend hours fighting in that stupid easily exploited combat system

If it's so easily exploited, how did you manage to spend that many hours fighting in it in the first place?
The only real problem with the Fallout combat system (besides the poor allied AI, and at times unbalanced weapons) was when there were battles with a huge number of opponents and you have to wait a really long time to get your turn again (the Boneyard comes to mind).
And what part of it did you feel was exploitable?

 

[PhredBean]

And what part of it did you feel was exploitable?

I can think of a few exploits (such as in Navarro going up the lift, take one shot, go back down, go up, take a shot, go down, repeat as nessassary until all opponents die), but nothing so exploitable as Oblivion's stand on a rock and plunk arrows into things for hours while they run endlessly into the base of the rock rather than jumping like you did.

And as Sander said, some of the weapons may be unbalanced, but at least you can't just go and enchant your shield with ungodly magic resist and render every caster type enemy in the game 100% ineffective.

 

[Eldask]

aehuehuea but TES enchanting system is really easily exploited o.O
but i don't think that you'll be able to enchant a adv power armour mk II with a "+5 HP/sec" in fallout 3

what I was trying to say is that it's possible to make changes in fallout and still have a very good RPG, if they keep the basic stuff of fallout 1 and 2 and make the visual and combat system better. You all just don't have to be so... nervous ó.ò

getting so enraged because of a GAME isn't a normal person stuff... I think o.O

 

[Sander]

aehuehuea but TES enchanting system is really easily exploited o.O
but i don't think that you'll be able to enchant a adv power armour mk II with a "+5 HP/sec" in fallout 3

what I was trying to say is that it's possible to make changes in fallout and still have a very good RPG, if they keep the basic stuff of fallout 1 and 2 and make the visual and combat system better. You all just don't have to be so... nervous ó.ò

getting so enraged because of a GAME isn't a normal person stuff... I think o.O

Because we care for decent, solid design? Please, for the love of god, go read the previous discussion about the different attributes of Fallout, they all provide very solid arguments as to why those properties are used.
Also, could you try to limit the use of "Oh-oh" in whatever form, it's really, really annoying and serves no purpose since you seem to use it after every other sentence.

 

[MrBumble]

There should be nu-metal and rap music, just as in San Andreas !!! Limp Bizkit roxxx, Break your fuckin face tonight !
It gives me a boner everytime

Isn't that lame ? Seriously, music was REALLY important in Fallout ! If you screw the music, just as they did in Tactics but even more in P.O.S then half of the game is already screwed !

 

[Carib FMJ]

Weren't Katanas taken from WWII, pretty close from WWII, which is closely linked.

Of course, not justifiying Katanas, hell I out grew that need in Fallout. Nothing a good axe can't fix.

 

[Roshambo]

aehuehuea but TES enchanting system is really easily exploited o.O

And you think your moronic encouragement is supposed to make it even likelier that the game won't be a steaming pile a la FOS?

but i don't think that you'll be able to enchant a adv power armour mk II with a "+5 HP/sec" in fallout 3

But there will undoubtedly be a similar widget.

what I was trying to say is that it's possible to make changes in fallout and still have a very good RPG,

You lying sack of shit. Give me ONE example of a CRPG series surviving this utter bullshit mentality your ignorance is spewing. You can't? That is exactly why I called you a lying sack of shit. Big surprise.

if they keep the basic stuff of fallout 1 and 2 and make the visual and combat system better.

Funny, you seem to say "better" but you only mean that it would suit your crackheaded tastes instead of being what Fallout fans generally expect - a logical sequel in the series just like logical sequels have been the foundations of success in other series. Otherwise, Bethesda wouldn't have had a Morrowind as TES would have died with Daggerfall being nothing what Arena fans wanted.

But did you bother to think about any of this? No, you just kept going on about what would make you personally happy, and the fuckwits at Penny Arcade and the TES forums think I'm supposed to be happy when I have children effectively acting like zoo monkeys to scrub mental defecation and verbally masturbate upon my forums.

You say "better" without any care to the design of the game, intended design of the game, or spirit of the game's creation, or anyone who in turn cares about those very things. That means only one thing, that you are only considering yourself, when we generally care about the cohesion and design of a Fallout sequel, in turn preferring that it not turn into every change-genre failure of every other series that has made the same move. I've been in the industry likely longer than you have been alive, and I can't really think of any series that really did well for the longevity of the series and appreciation by the fans for changing the formula.

Spin-offs are one thing, but when the main of the series is changed, then you have Super Avatar Brothers.

Or in this case, a possible Vault Raider.

You all just don't have to be so... nervous ó.ò

You don't have to be so discourteous and short-sighted to earn our contempt, shithead.

getting so enraged because of a GAME isn't a normal person stuff... I think o.O

Being a selfish idiot isn't the brightest thing to do on a forum dedicated to a game license that has been sold out for crap marketing twice, and you come along as the Lowest Common Denominator and chimp into the conversation.

How stupid can you be?!

 

[Wooz]

Fallout set in the Pacific Ocean.

 

[Ratty Sr.]

Uh... Fallout *was* set in the Pacific Ocean.

 

[Richoid]

I thought my idea was very good just specific to localised wants for a game.

 

[RPGenius]

Uh... Fallout *was* set in the Pacific Ocean.

Wooz probably ment IN the pacific.
I vaguely recall reading something along those lines.
Could be wrong mind.

Has Fallout 3 set pre-fallout, but after the bombs have dropped, set in the nuclear winter with no-one around been brought up, because that's been an idea of someone here.

 

[Role-Player]

Not sure if this has been said but:

Using sniper rifles akimbo.

 

[Ratty Sr.]

Using sniper rifles akimbo.

You mean someone actually suggested that?

Damn.

Even John Woo would think twice before kludging something like that into a movie.