The Enclave 86 said:
Serious?
If so, how more can you be out damn touch with what is Fallout Bethesda!
Logically the Enclave still have to be around.
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Serious?
If so, how more can you be out damn touch with what is Fallout Bethesda!
The Enclave 86
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
It might have been refering to simply the athetics of the Enclave in F3, I can't remember, some old press release from a long time ago, back in the summer of '08 when I was young and optemistic about F3.The Dutch Ghost said:
Faceless Stranger
Board Drifter
I dunno, I like the Enclave, they're like the Nazis of the Fallout world, more realistic given their capabilities than CL, IMO. But not an organized force now, just remnants and resistance still clinging to the ideals of their Reic.. I mean Government 
White Knight
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
The Enclave 86 said:
Which part of land of the dead? I can remember there being a reference to fiddlers green, but I can't put my finger on it.
Faceless Stranger
Board Drifter
Tenpenny Tower.White Knight said:
The Enclave 86
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
White Knight said:
Yeah it was Tenpenny Tower, a tower full of overly smug, rich (who seemingly have no reason to be rich) people (who even talk about eating fucking cavier which they should have no concept of!) who are being threatened by an army of ghouls, aka, zombies. Seriously, they can 'homage' or 'take inspiration' from something without ripping it completely, why not have humans trying to get in too? There are more humans than ghouls and they would all equally like to get in, but no it's 'Land of the Dead' so only ghouls are trying to get in.
It's kind of sad that Tenpenny Tower, as a rip-off, annoys me so much because the quest ascociated with it is one of the few with any sort of repocussions, ie, if you come to a peaceful deal and the ghouls kill them anyway. Sometimes which I could stomach myself to come to that peaceful ending just so I had an actually reason to beat that sack of shit, Roy Phillips, to death.
Though most of the quest is stupid though, playing off how rich people=smug/evil and the ghouls must be good because they face discrimination; if only the main quest was so self-aware.
Tenpenny Tower is not the only idea they took over nearly 1:1. 
Negate, Chicago enclave, morale is low with news of their complete loss in the CW from the surviving troops that start to trickle in, man power at all time low mostly civilians chain of command broken. New threat arises from the north in the end the enclave is wiped out but they take comfort in know after all there wrong doing they at least slowed this new evil down and warned the BOS and NCR.
A fitting end.
A fitting end.
The Enclave 86
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Shiozaki said:
Why would they warn the BoS and NCR? The people who were responsible for them having no morale, no chain of command, all of their families being dead.
A fitting end for the Enclave would be for them to go out in a blaze of, what they would consider, glory. A forlorn hope against New Arroyo, against the man whom, essentially, set in motion the chain of events and took everything from them; surely people can respect that as a motive.
Quagmire69
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Their was a game that explained all of this. It was implied that the rouge brotherhood and Enclave remnants came to some sort of understanding.
Are you talking about the Vault Dweller? What did he do except stop mutants from conquering the world. If any thing he helped give prewar humanity some breathing space.
Stanislao Moulinsky
Vault Fossil
Quagmire69 said:
The Vault Dweller destroyed the Enclave and founded New Arroyo?
The Enclave 86
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Quagmire69 said:
Err... no. NEW Arroyo, therefore, the Chosen One.
Quagmire69
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Sorry, never heard someone refer too the NCR as NEW Arroyo.
Really though, Fallout would be incomplete without the remnants of the pre war government and military. The thing I hated about new vegas is that the plot really had no connection too the great war.
Stanislao Moulinsky
Vault Fossil
Quagmire69 said:
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New Arroyo is the city founded by the Chosen One at the end of FO2.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Why would the plot have to have any connection with the great war? that thing happened 200 years prior. The plot was about what was established in FO2, Humanity rebuilding itself. People have been born, grow, reproduce and die, their lives have nothing to do with the great war except for the barren wasteland it left for them to live, wh ywould they want to indulge into it? they didn't care in FO1, 2 nor even in 3, The Enclave was't about the great war either, they have other goals, they don't care about a 200 years old conflict. how many times do you think about WWI in the day? probably zero.
Enclave as dangerous organisation died, end of story.
Of course some small, isolated outpost somewhere far away could remain. But when communication with their commanders would stop they would understand that something is wrong. And either try to invistigate or do something else.
Enclave is death,buried and rotted . I hope beth will decide not to give them major role in f4.
And Quagmire69, try to do some research about NCR,it's history, and New Arroyo.
Of course some small, isolated outpost somewhere far away could remain. But when communication with their commanders would stop they would understand that something is wrong. And either try to invistigate or do something else.
Enclave is death,buried and rotted . I hope beth will decide not to give them major role in f4.
And Quagmire69, try to do some research about NCR,it's history, and New Arroyo.
Quagmire69
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Never finished playing Fallout 2. Managed somehow to get into navarro but could'nt make it past random enclave patrols.
Quagmire69
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Never finished playing Fallout 2. Managed somehow to get into navarro but could'nt make it past random enclave patrols.
Quagmire69 said:
All you have to do is leave your companions outside and put on a suit of advanced power armor. They don't even notice you when you do that.