Basil Zen said:
Not spaceships, then, space shuttles.
Keep in mind, there were a
shitload of bad ideas tossed in to Fallout 2 without any rhyme or reason as to why they should be there. That spaceshuttle would be a big one.
Bionic implants. Subdermal metallic plates, stat boosting bionic implants, direct neural connections to teach you speech!
There's nothing "bionic" about slapping polymer armor under your skin.
Those stat boosting memory cards weren't implanted in anything other than the machine itself.
The "direct neural connection" thing is nothing more than something you put on, it zapped your puny mind, and you were done with it. And.. It was a stupid idea.
That picture of a plane dropping bombs was the Enola Gay, which means you have a 150 year old plane wiping out China?
No, the one with DOZENS of bombers.
Intoxication, fornication, and xenophobia. The three basic elements in every society.
The fact that they were ignored in the first game made absolutely no sense to me once I saw them in Fallout 2. People will always make drugs from whatever they can find, people will always pay for sex, and people will always be wary of those who are different from them. Even, sadly, after a nuclear bomb turns the world into a lawless wasteland and everyone into little more than animals.
All three of those things were in the original game. Have you even played it? Hell, the easiest way of getting the anti-radiation drugs is from a drug dealer in The Hub. Booze was all over the place as well.
Do you remember how Harold and the other ghouls were treated in Fallout? Eh? Harold was a big caravan owner until he got ghoulified, when we see him in Fallout - he's an outcast, barely tolerated.
As for the sex thing, ApTyp covered it.
Everybody and their grandma had a minigun in Fallout 1, which was ridiculous enough. Who had plasma weapons? Gunrunners, the Master's Army, and the Brotherhood of Steel. The Supermutants as much ammo and technology as the BoS as well. If "too much tech" was an excuse in Fallout 2 it is also a worthy complaint for Fallout 1.
The Mutant Army.. The one that was created in the
HIGHLY SECURE MARIPOSA MILITARY INSTALLATION? That Mutant Army? Gosh, I have no idea where they'd get their weapons from! Dumbass.
In Fallout 2, the only people with plasma weapons were Supermutants, the Enclave, the Brotherhood of Steel, and that Chinese dude...
The Salvadores had laser weapons, the NCR had gauss weapons, and there were bands of raiders with plasma and gauss weapons.
While I'm on the subject, the Shi were one of the stupidest things in Fallout 2. You have the remnants of the United States military chain of command holed up on an oil rig, they use a tanker programmed to travel to and from San Francisco to get to the mainland - what do they find? The Chinese! The big enemy that nuked the whole country! What do they do? Absolutely NOTHING. How retarded is that?
which puts them in the hands of almost the same number of people. The complaint that high tech weapons were easier to find is unfounded, and the reasons for these people having such powerful weaponry is completely related to their histories.
No, the big complaint about the tech level isn't totally about the guns, it's about
everything. Computers everywhere, powered towns, forcefield fences, Vault City's turret fence, ghouls running a nuclear power plant, scientists making intelligent radscorpions, slavers with electronic slave pens, etc.
For the computer, go to Broken Hills in Fallout 2, go to the shop in Downtown, and there's a desk. On the desk is a computer. You can do a look and it says, "A desk with a simple computer." There's also one in the Hole in the Den and in Fallout 1 I think there's one in Killian Darkwater's, another at the guard station in Junktown, another in the Hub in one of the shops. Also, in Redding, go to the rundown place where you find Frog Morton and in the back room far to the west I think there's a desktop computer.
Like the other man said, those look like cash registers to me.
That doesn't explain why there's a cash register in the guard's station where no one actually buys anything.
No, no law enforcement groups ever have use for a cash register. Nope, can't think of a single reason why they'd have that there other than say.. For people buying permits or licenses for something, paying fines, paying taxes, paying bail, and so on.
or you can entertain the idea that post-apocalyptic California had desktop computers.
Of course there's the whole thing where one of the developers was quoted as saying,
Imagine a world where the transistor never existed.
I thought bombing a country to hell made no sense. (With our historical supply of bombers, it really does make no sense.) But I could see, with a large fleet of bombers and a large enough nuclear payload, that it is possible to wipe out all of the major cities in a nation. And remember, we only see the US of the Fallout universe in pieces.
Yeah, because you'd need a few million of them to nuke a whole country because the blast radius of a nuke is so tiny and all.
Hell, I have seen someone complain about snow in Fallout Tactics, as if a nuclear holocaust miraculously raises the temperature of the world 30 degrees.
Because that's what they thought would happen in the 1950s.
How many 20 year old Jewish kids hate 20 year old German kids? And that's less than 60 years of peace.
Ask them if they like nazis.
