Many a True Nerd "Fallout 3 is Better than you Think"

[Morgan_]

Well damn, I really liked the energy weapons myself. Felt the NV designs for the new ones were weak in comparison.

The laser rifle looks very streamlined for field use and like it has all it's sophisticated inner workings housed in an aluminum body or something. Definitely looks like a modular platform.

The plasma rifle has more of an emerging/prototype look to it. Really different to the laser rifle, but they contrast/compliment each other nicely.
If I were to change it though I might place the plasms "pistons" on the right hand side only.

The more I look at them the more I can see why people like the Wattz stuff.

 

[TheGM]

Better design.

 

[Morgan_]

Vacuum cleaner gun. I don't dislike it. Isn't that one from NV?
Makes me think of Greg Broadmore's stuff:

Spoiler: Bonus

 

[KingArthur]

It's a rifle with road caution lines on it fam.....

Which is more professional-looking and fits “designed for the military” more than the Bethesda versions...

 

[TheGM]

Vacuum cleaner gun.

it is as if people forget what franchise this is.

Which is more professional-looking and fits “designed for the military” more than the Bethesda versions...

You hating on the aluminum shoebox with some nobs working prototype look?

 

[Morgan_]

Which is more professional-looking and fits “designed for the military” more than the Bethesda versions...

The laser rifle doesn't look like a military weapon? I wouldn't want it to look like a regular gun with green lights on it. That's just me though.
Plasma rifle has a prototype look in comparison. Not bad, but not battle tested if you will so I can see what you mean there.

it is as if people forget what franchise this is.

You hating on a the aluminum shoebox with some nobs working prototype look?

For sure, not saying it's bad. It just has that industrial desin to it (which I like in this case).

Spoiler

 

[Gizmojunk]

Yeah I have to admit that I prefer their power armor models, or at least what they developed them into.

Everything they "created" after the initial FO3 release was result of forum posts repeating it over and over and over.

 

[TheGM]

T-45 is fucking trash. T-60 just a big T-45. but then there is this abomination.

Spoiler: BEWARE

 

[Morgan_]

Enclave and T-60 are my favorites. T-51 would be weakest design for me.
Really sucks they took out centaurs for F4 as the art they had for them looked like they could be good.
Would have made for a great creepy encounter in the dark amongst old ruins and overgrowth.

 

[zegh8578]

T-45 is fucking trash. T-60 just a big T-45. but then there is this abomination.

Spoiler: BEWARE

^fixed image

is it from FO76? I have yet to even try it or watch any significant ammount of gameplay from it, and so far everything I've seen involved party-hats. It looks like a nightmare (except for the scenery, which looks a bit... No Man's Sky-ish? Idunno... ), and having to actually *pay* to play this game boggles my mind.

 

[TheGM]

^fixed image

works on my end but wikia img links are a fucking joke.

is it from FO76?

Yeah. it is the end result of a massive grind...or if glitch it if you want. Not that it is worth it, since much to Morgans chagrin the T-51b is still the best suit of power armor stats wise last I heard, because it has all really high stats across the board were as the other suits may do something like 5 to 10 points higher than it one category but trade off of a bunch of other things. and you can find it in game with bit of server hoping.

 

[zegh8578]

server hoping.

*GTAO flashbacks*

 

[MayonaiseCream]

So the lore is that the T-45 was the first "production model" power armor. They made a shitton of it, and it worked well.
Then, they started from the ground floor, and designed/built the T-51; it was largely ceramic instead of metal, which meant greatly reduced weight yet somehow superior armor strength (and also a special coating that gave it very superior energy damage resistance).
So T-51 was the top of the line.... but also very expensive to produce. Then the T-60 was designed/built. They used the T-45 as a base, and just made some improvements to it. It's really more of a T-45+ than its own unique armor.
However, they were able to reuse lots of processes and parts from the T-45 production... So it was hella cheaper to produce. However, the great war finally hit before it was fully ready to enter 100% full production.

 

[Gizmojunk]

So... Bethesda had to write that their armor idea was made first, and that Interplay's (while technically better) was expensive and impractical. Then that they went back to Bethesda's [practical] design with some improvements from Interplay's; making the T-51 out as an odd relic.

 

[ResetRPG]

The T-51 is the best looking Power Armor in my opinion.

 

[Sn1p3r187]

I love that Fallout 76 is only 25 years after the bombs fell, but somehow looks better than Fallout 3 Capital Wasteland, which is 200 years after. Bethesda had the right time to make a completely devastated wasteland that would make sense to be so, but then make it better looking than one 200 years later.

And yet for some reason the BOS exists in the Appalachians just 25 years after the war. And Bethesda's reason for that was such a giant crock of shit that I think my water supply got cholera

 

[Blastwave Dave]

And yet for some reason the BOS exists in the Appalachians just 25 years after the war. And Bethesda's reason for that was such a giant crock of shit that I think my water supply got cholera

The only explanation that could make even a fraction of sense to explain Fallout 3's Capital Wasteland that I could see making sense is that, being the capital of the United States, the Commies launched a series of extremely dirty nukes that were even more intense than regular nukes. But that has massive problems too lol.

 

[Hardboiled Android]

The only explanation that could make even a fraction of sense to explain Fallout 3's Capital Wasteland that I could see making sense is that, being the capital of the United States, the Commies launched a series of extremely dirty nukes that were even more intense than regular nukes. But that has massive problems too lol.

This has been the fan theory since time immemorial, and really it's not that unreasonable. If the Capital Wasteland was just particuarly bad I don't think many would really have a big problem with it, but when none of the rest of the world building makes sense either it becomes fair game.

 

[Blastwave Dave]

This has been the fan theory since time immemorial, and really it's not that unreasonable. If the Capital Wasteland was just particuarly bad I don't think many would really have a big problem with it, but when none of the rest of the world building makes sense either it becomes fair game.

Right I'm aware that's the running fan theory but without any kind of implication that is actually the case for or since I'm left to assume Bethesda is retarded, and theres definitely plenty of evidence pointing to that being the case.

 

[Norzan]

I read somewhere (or i might be misremembering) that the game was meant to be set 20 years after the bombs fell. Which would actually explain the state of the Capital Wasteland. Bethesda wanting to recycle a bunch of shit from the first two games instead decided to set the the game 200 years after the bombs fell.

Which is kind of confusing because they have no qualms in changing lore to fit whatever narrative they want to push, so they could have recycled all the crap from the first two games while keeping the game set 20 years after the bombs fell. Which is far too funny now that i think about it (just the amount of not giving shit that you twist the lore to allow things to happen but still don't care to set the game in the right time).