Megamod 2.3 technical issues and suggestions

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by MIB88, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    so i would have to extract the files from the .dat i have and replace them in the \data\art\items and \data\art\scenery folders?
     
  2. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    No, not all of them. Just the ones for the car - carspec1.frm from scenery, and cartrunk.frm from items.
     
  3. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    now i seem to have issues loading games.



    this has happened on 4 or 5 occasions, but i just loaded from a previous save when it did chalking it up as a simple glitch. now it seems that it isn't just a simple glitch.

    any thoughts? i still have that save if you want to look at it.


    EDIT: i haven't added the car color change yet, so that is ruled out.
     
  4. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    No, replacing a couple of .frm files would not mess up your game. The only thing that comes to mind is Scraptown. Did you visit this location? It is the small location just east of the Den.
     
  5. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    yes, i've been there, but the first time i got the error was in san fran and i hadn't been to scraptown yet.

    i went there a few months prior to the saved date in the image... aug 28 2241 to be exact. and yes, i do get a load error with that save as well.
     
  6. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    I just want to be sure I understand this right: with the game you are trying to load, is that the same game that you visited Scraptown? You can save the game as many times as you like... but as soon as you try to load a game in which the player has ever visited Scraptown, then this error will occur.

    If you have not been to Scraptown with the game you are trying to load, then what city were you in? That picture is not a scene from San Francisco.
     
  7. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    yes and no.

    the first time i had the error i was in san fran and i didn't visit scraptown.

    klint and i went from arroyo to klamath and picked up sulik, then we went to the den to get supplies, from there we went all the way to nrc to loot busters shelves. from ncr we went to san fran to hock my stolen goods. i saved my game, reloaded and i got the error.

    but yes, the save i am currently trying to load, i have visited scraptown. but i saved and loaded about 20 times since visiting scraptown with no errors.
     
  8. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    Well...hmmm. I really don't know what might be doing this. Please send me a copy of this savegame slot and I'll take a look through the files.

    Edit: Got the savegame. Thanks. The protos look fine. Nothing looks obviously corrupted. Nothing appears to be missing. I think you may have just gotten extremely lucky in the past getting the game to load despite going to Scraptown. That happened to me when first testing the a version of the mod out, which is why I never knew about the problem until I uploaded it for others.

    Just out of curiosity, all the other places you saved the game, were they in cities? Or were some of them also random encounters like this?
     
  9. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    both city and randoms.

    one more thing. i just got some new leather armor for klint, i tell him put it on, save and reload the game, i then get the black screen and FO2 .exe error i had before. can you test this to see if it happens to you?

    i'm going to start a new game to see if it clears up. if not, i'll re-install and test some more.
     
  10. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    ok... i did a little test.

    i loaded a saved game, i took off his armor, saved in a different slot and reloaded the game slot. i get the black screen and the error.

    then

    i loaded the same saved game as i did with the first part of this test, i took off his armor, moved to a different area, saved and reloaded. no problems.

    EDIT: it seems that the errors start for me whenever i change his armor. if i remember correctly, i had changed his armor just before i got the errors. i'm going to go to scraptown and check something out.
     
  11. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    I'm just trying to see some sort of pattern here. What map are you on that keeps giving you the black screen? Is it a particular one, or are you trying this on several maps?

    Something from a while ago just came to mind. Someone said they were having problems with Klint in combat armor and being able to save games. It just seemed too random, though, and was something I was never able to experience.

    But, am I correct in saying that those games in which Klint is not wearing any armor loads without any problems whatsoever, every time?
     
  12. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    i was editing my post as you made yours. please read my last post.


    "But, am I correct in saying that those games in which Klint is not wearing any armor loads without any problems whatsoever, every time?"

    yes, but only if i moved to a different location after i took of his armor. i tested my theroy in klamath. i took his armor off downtown and went to the area north of there, saved and reloaded with no problems.

    then in the same area, i told him to put him armor back on and did the save\reload\black screen thing.

    then i reloaded the working save again, told him to put his armor back on, went to downtown klamath, save and reloaded. no problems.
     
  13. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    and i can do this everytime and anywhere. other than going to scraptown.
     
  14. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    Did you mean this?

    Because, I thought it was only when he was without armor did the game always load without any problems. If what you said above is true, then the pattern goes away, and it is back to being random.

    Still odd, though, in that I have never had this error before. I have saved games with Klint in all types of armor, and never had a problem reloading except when it came to Scraptown. Maybe this is one of those weird kind of errors that occurs like in the Restoration thread, in which people have things happen depending on the version of the game they are using.
     
  15. Harry Canyon

    Harry Canyon First time out of the vault

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    Dec 4, 2007
    well at least there is a workaround when i get new armor for him. at least for now.
     
  16. aFalloutDude

    aFalloutDude First time out of the vault

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    Jan 21, 2008
    I'm playing MegaMod atm and I like it so far. Except that I hate the Armor Appareance Mod.
    Sulik wearing a leather Armor and Vic transforming from a slob to an adonis is still OK but why does Lenny suddenly grow skin when he wears a leather jacket?
    Long story short: How do I remove the armor mod withough tearing my whole savegame apart?

    In the readme that is included in the mod some file named "b-team.dat" is mentioned, but I can't find it anywhere. So I guess these installation instructions only apply to the standalone mod, and not the megamod.

    Can somebody please tell me which files I need to overwrite to make my NPCs look like in the original Fallout?

    Any advice is appreciated :)
     
  17. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    Yeah, those other readme files are mostly when they are standalone... especially whenever it mentions anything regarding installation. I included all the other original readme files because they were from the authors. Anyway, there is no way to undo the armor mod without breaking other aspects. So, if you were to use the character scripts from another patch, you would lose out on a cure for Cassidy, Vic and Myron teaching you stuff, Sulik's village, and a number of other things.

    But, if you are asking because you are gonna try your hand at scripting, then let me know.
     
  18. aFalloutDude

    aFalloutDude First time out of the vault

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    Jan 21, 2008
    I'm not into scripting, but thanks for the answer. I guess I'll have to stick with it since I don't wanna miss the other stuff you mentioned.

    Besides - soon all of my guys will have a power armor anyway :P

    PS: Overall a good work with the mod. But I would make the description in the download section a bit more user-friendly.
     
  19. MIB88

    MIB88 So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
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    Feb 22, 2005
    I didn't put a description there. It's just the v2.32 readme file. Besides, you've seen all the readme files in the folder... it doesn't get much better than that! :)

    (Unless, you mean as a list of what's included. That was in there back when it was Megamod 1. But, perhaps I could change it, as I wrote the v2 + readme files as though the player had seen all the earlier versions... and that readme is also included in the folder.)
     
  20. Shayesda

    Shayesda First time out of the vault

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    Jul 9, 2003
    Hey ho guys!

    I know its some minor stuff... but there is one small thing that annoyed me just secs ago ^^

    I started a whole new game with the Megamod after I installed Fallout...

    I'm at Klamath atm... and near to Vics shop it turns into combat mode and some unfriendly guy that you can't see (is somewhere outside the screen) shooting at me...
    Its a small thing... but he killed me just now -.-