New developer diary at Bethesda

xdarkyrex said:
I remain optimistic til release day, its in my nature
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Hum, sure, because you have no better way of spending your money... Good luck with that :roll: If I was optimistic about half the games I look forward to, I'd have bought about 4 to 5 times more games. And I'd be broke a long time ago to...

Nahnah, not for me...
 
I said it before, Chinese muties, what other nation at that time had the oomph behind it to actually produce a working version of the FEV aside from the US, then sic them on the states, Europe was in shambles of an economic collapse if I recall and Russia's in no shape to do much, so that leaves China really.
 
Mord_Sith said:
I said it before, Chinese muties, what other nation at that time had the oomph behind it to actually produce a working version of the FEV aside from the US, then sic them on the states, Europe was in shambles of an economic collapse if I recall and Russia's in no shape to do much, so that leaves China really.
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That doesn't make any sense and it'd be a horrible plot. The super-mutants were a mistake, the US was trying to produce a solution for the biological warfare of the Chinese (and you can thus conclude the Chinese were focused on biological warfare). No one made them on purpose, and they were never mass-produced prior to the war. Why would China?
 
That doesn't make any sense and it'd be a horrible plot.
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Which is why I fear it might be the plot used by Bethesda. Remember the Chinese AKs used by the muties?
 
Ausir said:
That doesn't make any sense and it'd be a horrible plot.
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Which is why I fear it might be the plot used by Bethesda. Remember the Chinese AKs used by the muties?
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Are they chinese? I must have missed something... Or I must have unconscientiously forgotten it because it's so illogical. Haven't Chinese only reached the WEST coast (invaded Alasca and all)? I don't remember them reaching the east coast... Wasn't it because of they ran out of fuel (oh, the irony, so fallouty)? If anything, there would be Chinese weapons on the west coast, and I don't remember seeing any...
 
Ausir said:
Which is why I fear it might be the plot used by Bethesda. Remember the Chinese AKs used by the muties?
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Sadly, yes. I just assumed they were scavenged, though. Chinese teleporting from Achorage to D.C. and turning into mutants while doing so would be dumber than the BoS new story.

Also, you're description of weapon fixing:
Using the Repair skill in Fallout 3, it is possible to combine two shoddy copies of this rifle into one superior weapon

Isn't really accurate. It's the same weapon you end up with, but in a superior state. The ideal Chinese AK is at 100%. The lower that number, the less the Damage Per Second and the more noticeable the kick-back becomes. If you have one that's at 45%, and one at 78% (I think those were what Pete had), you can combine them into something in the 90%s. Or rather, you use one to repair the other (Pete used the 78% to repair the 45%. No idea why)
 
Out of curiosity, why do people want the Super Mutants back as an organised army?

I also liked them in Fallout 1 but I also liked the fact that the game series progressed and introduced new hostiles. (I admit, I somewhat liked the Calculator and its robots)
 
FO1, FO2 and even FOT have new main enemies...
FO3 is going with a enemy loop. Hey! Mutants again!


Also, the robots of FOT weren't so bad, were they?
 
Aren't we overreacting a little now?

I can understand why its difficult to place them within Fallout 1 and 2, I heard the arguments.
But as a concept I like them.
 
I don't think that the whole concept of FoT robots made sense at all.

The whole idea of the BoS going east in search for Vault 0 didn't fit the F1 BoS.
Also, the Vault 0 and Calculator didn't make much sense in context of Enclave being on the Oil Rig.
 
Retouching on old plot points isn't all bad!
If you're gonna complain about that, you might as well also complain about the fact that your character comes from inside of a vault again.
 
xdarkyrex said:
Retouching on old plot points isn't all bad!
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It's fine if the majority of the plot is new (to the series at least) but when majority of the plot is rehashed it's bad. What would you say is the balance of what's been revealed so far?

xdarkyrex said:
If you're gonna complain about that, you might as well also complain about the fact that your character comes from inside of a vault again.
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Hasn't someone already?
 
xdarkyrex said:
Retouching on old plot points isn't all bad!
If you're gonna complain about that, you might as well also complain about the fact that your character comes from inside of a vault again.
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I think you totally missed the point...

Anyway, the robots, as character art, are meh. As a concept, are totally out of place. Vault 0, as it's shown, NEVER existed, so the robots make no sense. Besides, it's the whole BoS issue again...
 
Actually Chinese assault rifles now look like this
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as39-e.htm

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If you go with the Chinese ak 47 then it's not Fallout early '50 design,
as Chinese AK surfaced in late '50
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as49-e.htm
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So Beth's Writers' internet fu is as bad as their imaginative and reading (the canon) skillz.
 
xdarkyrex said:
Retouching on old plot points isn't all bad!
If you're gonna complain about that, you might as well also complain about the fact that your character comes from inside of a vault again.
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*Sigh*
Why did bethesda move FO3 to the east coast? They said that it will allow them to make new things, they'll be free from FO1 and 2.

And what have they done with their freedom in east coast?
Nothing, or rather, shit.
BoS- check (damn do-gooders)
SMuties- check (ofc they're not SM as we know them, there's a dark secret in it! And nobody knows why they're trying to take over the world)
Jesus Christ, even Enclave- check (taking over the world turned to entertaining people with music)

Was it so hard to look at VB's documents and borrow something from there? Or to, y'know, think of something new on their own?

They're not doing anything new. They're remaking content of FO1 and 2 but in worse way, showing that they know those things were there but have no idea how did they look like.
 
Morbus said:
xdarkyrex said:
Retouching on old plot points isn't all bad!
If you're gonna complain about that, you might as well also complain about the fact that your character comes from inside of a vault again.
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I think you totally missed the point...

Anyway, the robots, as character art, are meh. As a concept, are totally out of place. Vault 0, as it's shown, NEVER existed, so the robots make no sense. Besides, it's the whole BoS issue again...
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Eh, I wasn't talking about the Tactics robots.
I was referring to FO3 touching back on super muties.

I never liked the robot idea.
 
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