Opinions on Fallout 4?

The Player will even have a rousing Speech... They are even aping the Mass Effect Shepard Speech at the end of the game...
 
One of my biggest ambitions is to become a writer as I would love to tell stories such as comics, books, and video games. But some of the things that is always holding me back is my fear to fail, write stories that are not intelligent, deep, and worked out well enough that a reader or a gamer will take it serious and become excited or captivated by it, and are in general of a good quality and not hastily made just to make a buck.

To me Emil is kind of like the opposite to all of that, or perhaps it seems so because he is asked to make this sort of stuff. I am not going to call him a sell out or anything but I really don't respect his writing skills, his stories, and his ideas. I don't think game writing is his calling.
However I have to admit that I am kind of envious that he is able to make money on this and somehow gets respect and admiration for all of this.

Perhaps if you really want to make a good income you have to lower your standards, even if its disgusts yourself on a personal level.
 
Actually Game Writting is totally his calling, most people in that demographic can't recognize a bad story even if it threw 2 forced sacrifices at their face through 4 Plotholes.
 
You are probably right Walpknut. Perhaps I over imagine context and quality writing in a medium which actually wildly differs from title to title, depending on the developers.
Even FNV wasn't completely brilliant but it did have its moments.

But when gaming sites and magazines start giving awards for 'best writing' I do expect at least something that can compete with a good book or graphic novel, not something that is basically some lines tagged to a quest which completion triggers are doing various stuff, killing people, talking to one person or another, and so on.
And definitely not cringe worthy dialogue.
 
Considering that Telltale's shitty stories always get praise and that Bioshock Infinite is even called "Citizen Ken of games" unironically by the majority of the gaming press and user base you just have accept most "gamers" have no real standards. They are on the level of a freshman in a script writing class in terms of what they consider a good story.
 
I'm a little conflicted, I admit. The environments will probably look beautiful, and have a lot more to offer than the mostly vast expanse of the Mojave, which really could have been done better in New Vegas, but the overall quality of narrative and writing probably won't measure up to what we'd want from a Fallout game. Worse, they could be far below, in which case we'd lose any and all hope for BGS. This script, although just a few lines, was bad enough that when I saw it in Dec. 2013 when it leaked, I thought it was fake. I thought not even Bethesda could write something so poor. But it's legitimate. The real intro better not this.
 
So, what do you think? Will they really follow this shitty Players is an android! Yo! storyline that was leaked as well?
 
LordAshur said:
Wait a minute... If there is any kind of racism in Far Cry 3 it would be in the opposite direction. You have a decent and memorable antagonist who appeared in all the PR material, who is present in the part of the game which feels at least a little bit inspired, and who you might think is the game's main antagonist. But as you clear half of the first island you come to the startling revelation that the main antagonist is instead.... a rich white guy!

If there's a single demographic which should bitch about being discriminated in video games, it's (usually old) rich white people.

All that aside, the game's story would have been just as retarded and the protagonist and his friends just as unlikable if they were of any other race. Instead of some irritating tourist, the game's protagonist should have been based on an 80s action hero. That way, the entire game would make far more sense.
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To be fair, rich people can't bitch about anything because they all suck anyways. Not because they're white, either (this Native American has no problem against other white folx).

Walpknut said:
Wasn't Farcry 4 the one that got the "RACIST!" claims because white young adults living in California saw in their Mac Screens that the villain had light skin and thus couldn't be anything other than caucasian? And that somehow the actions of the villain directly reflect the beliefs of the authors for some completely braindead reason? Then they got all defensive when it was pointed out that Pagan Min was part asian and that a lot of asian ethnicities (gasp, there was more than one?) actually have light skin and that they aren't all olive skinned with buck theeth? I rebember that.
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The villain in Farcry 4 was so well done. It turns out, he's not actually the insane kill-everything person you perceive him to be. If you do actually wait for him at the table in the beginning, he takes you on a trip, explains EVERYTHING to you, and let's you scatter your mothers ashes. Neither "protagonist" hero lets you do that if you get them into power, and they both turn out to fuck the country up in their own ways. Pagan actually was just like any other normal leader, turns out.
 
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generalissimofurioso said:
One of the things I've noticed about every interview so far about Fallout 4, it's always been about three things and just those three things.

1) Voiced protagonist, wow!

2) Gun stuff, Oooooh!

3) Building shit, yay!

I mean, nobody has really asked anything about the mechanics outside of the combat.

No info on skill checks in dialogue, no info on multiple endings, no info on DR/DT, ammo types or companion quests, nothing-nothing-nothing.

And then Bethesda just up and says "We're not going to talk about the story until release" and people actually cheer that decision.

Well, kiss my grits, this is the sort of shit people should be getting mad about.

A major company literally shows you five minutes of footage and expects you to plonk down cash for the game?

Freakin' unbelievable.
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If Ayy Lmao's from Fallout 3's Mothership zeta DLC. Didn't make you cringe hard enough, I'm pretty sure fallout 4's Life-Support Story outta make you get facial reconstruction after it's ending.
 
TransgenderVaultDeweller said:
If Ayy Lmao's from Fallout 3's Mothership zeta DLC. Didn't make you cringe hard enough, I'm pretty sure fallout 4's Life-Support Story outta make you get facial reconstruction after it's ending.
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I wouldn't know about Mothership Zeta.

Gave up on Fallout 3 even in an analytical way when Point Lookout came out.

Fought two magic hillbillies and gave up when the game crashed so hard it couldn't launch anymore.

I'm really hoping 4 is at least stable enough to run without CTD's, but judging from the fact that I couldn't even complete most of Skyrim on a single save without the game become utterly unplayable thanks to their shitty memory dumps, I'm not looking forward to it.
 
Yeah, Trust me it's retarded. They hinted that the ICBM's were launched by uknown sources. Again, Fallout 2 and Tactic's implied the Chinese were the first to launch the warheads. If i'm not mistaken they're is a Chinese Sub in fallout 2.

Anyways, Yeah. Ayy lmao's caused the great war.
 
Practicat said:
Going back to discussing Fallout 4, I looked at the Kotaku leaked script, which has proven 100% true so far, and I realized how cringeworthy the player narrated dialogue for the intro is. Even if Emil revised it later, the draft isn't good to say the least.
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This is lazy writing, period. If I want a player with an army background or being in the army: I undergo surgery to remove half of my brain to be able to play Call of Duty because at the moment: Fallout 4 seems really like a Call of Duty in the Wasteland with a few "nifty" features added. Taking a wife and a new born child as a motivation for the player is even worse and lazier to implement. If there was at least some absurdity to it,á la The Rum Diary meets Mad Max meets Delicatessen I could live with it. But the slippery as an eel nature of the footage shown and points made just sucks out all of the fun of it already.
 
retardette said:
This is lazy writing, period. If I want a player with an army background or being in the army: I undergo surgery to remove half of my brain to be able to play Call of Duty because at the moment: Fallout 4 seems really like a Call of Duty in the Wasteland with a few "nifty" features added. Taking a wife and a new born child as a motivation for the player is even worse and lazier to implement. If there was at least some absurdity to it,á la The Rum Diary meets Mad Max meets Delicatessen I could live with it. But the slippery as an eel nature of the footage shown and points made just sucks out all of the fun of it already.
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It's actually a casting call, so the intro is different in the final game, but it will probably be similar to the casting script, but better written.

I wouldn't say Fallout 4 will be like CoD. At worst, it'll be another shallow game like Skyrim. But I think it'll be better than that. At least the game looks great visually, which I couldn't say for 3 or New Vegas. But will it have the caliber of narrative and writing we'd like? I'm inclined to say no, but we'll see.
 
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