Parenting and Drinking for Eternity

donperkan said:
You guys just don't get it. I'm not making this stuff up it's been tested and passed on through generations. You can call me stupid or spineless but that doesn't change the fact that it's a helpful social manner.
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Your "helpful social manner" is ridiculous notion. It means taking things way too personally and acting like some kind of clingy person. That kind of attitude is not helpful and is, in fact, inconsiderate because you're only taking one person into account. If someone doesn't want something that is offered, they are in no way obliged to accept.
 
Your wierd societal rules is what makes my home town a warm and welcoming place, reading your last post made me a bit prouder of that.
 
I'm not sure I'd want to even set foot in your hometown. Someone would probably slit my throat because I wasn't thirsty when they offered me a drink.

C2B said:
Which I agree with.

However, I got initinally stuck on this
It ISN'T LESS dangerous than ANY other drug.
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It could easily be I just misunderstood the point. In which case, I'm sorry got a little too much into it.
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We shouldn't argue about this, we are basically on the same page. Maybe. My initial statement was a bit too broad. I didn't mean to play down the danger of other drugs by saying alcohol isn't less dangerous, I was trying to say that alcohol is a dangerous drug. More dangerous than some, less dangerous than others. And still the second biggest killer of them all. Close, but no cigar. That one goes to tobacco, which, I guess, gets to smoke itself there.
Let's face it: drug laws are arbitrary bullshit.
 
Jebus said:
DammitBoy said:
Jebus said:
Downing shots and getting drunk in front of small children isn't really classy. I don't know whose kids that were, but that was pretty bad parenting.
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By all means we should shelter them from real life as much as possible for as long as possible. This includes not arguing in front of the children, no displays of affection, no repercussions for their actions, and no score keeping at the youth soccer matches.

:clap:
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Yes, that is a completely logical conclusion deducted from what I've said.
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So when you said doing it "in front of" small children, you weren't advocating sheltering these small children from said behavior?
 
donperkan said:
Your wierd societal rules is what makes my home town a warm and welcoming place, reading your last post made me a bit prouder of that.
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Forcing people to drink whatever you give them. So warm and welcoming.
 
DammitBoy said:
Jebus said:
Yes, that is a completely logical conclusion deducted from what I've said.
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So when you said doing it "in front of" small children, you weren't advocating sheltering these small children from said behavior?
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What? In the same way that not taking your kids on a field trip to downtown Detroit after dark is "sheltering them" from the realities of urban decay, sure, yeah. I'm not entirely with Jebus on this one, but your earlier posts seem to be implying that the only options available here are "keep your children completely ignorant of the existence and effects of alcohol" and "keep them around to witness adults they know and look up to getting soused and rowdy." You're leaping a lot of middle ground there, and that's just a game of hopscotch compared to the MILES you bridged to connect "Maybe they should comport themselves a little better in front of their kids" with "RAISE YOUR CHILDREN IN AN IMPENETRABLE DOME OF INNOCENCE AND NEVER EVER HURT THEIR POOR LITTLE FEELINGS AT ANY COST."
 
Look Dammitboy will not shelter his kids from the fact he is the country's worst male ballet dancer and no amount of homophobia will change his mind. He has been prancing about his house since 1978.
 
DammitBoy said:
Jebus said:
DammitBoy said:
Jebus said:
Downing shots and getting drunk in front of small children isn't really classy. I don't know whose kids that were, but that was pretty bad parenting.
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By all means we should shelter them from real life as much as possible for as long as possible. This includes not arguing in front of the children, no displays of affection, no repercussions for their actions, and no score keeping at the youth soccer matches.

:clap:
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Yes, that is a completely logical conclusion deducted from what I've said.
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So when you said doing it "in front of" small children, you weren't advocating sheltering these small children from said behavior?
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You asswhipe.
There's a difference between, as a parent, exposing your child to you (or friends of yours) drinking alcohol responsibly and in a normal manner, and exposing your children to adults binge-drinking hard liquor in drinking games with other adults cheering them on. It makes oodles of sense that implying to your preteen kids that binge-drinking is a fun social activity is a bad idea. Just like having fun in front of your kids with random people making sexist remarks towards your female employees is a bad idea (not to mention it's unacceptable towards your female employees too).

Don't act like I'm some sort of over-protective soccer mom because of this; it doesn't take a genious to see how this sort of shit has effect on a kids education.

Also, don't act like you're some new-age enlightened parent, you're the one who believes your (inexplicably) hot daughter when she tells you she's going to be a virgin 'till mariage.
 
Jebus said:
You asswhipe.
There's a difference between, as a parent, exposing your child to you (or friends of yours) drinking alcohol responsibly and in a normal manner, and exposing your children to adults binge-drinking hard liquor in drinking games with other adults cheering them on. It makes oodles of sense that implying to your preteen kids that binge-drinking is a fun social activity is a bad idea. Just like having fun in front of your kids with random people making sexist remarks towards your female employees is a bad idea (not to mention it's unacceptable towards your female employees too).

Don't act like I'm some sort of over-protective soccer mom because of this; it doesn't take a genious to see how this sort of shit has effect on a kids education.

Also, don't act like you're some new-age enlightened parent, you're the one who believes your (inexplicably) hot daughter when she tells you she's going to be a virgin 'till mariage.
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You misspelled genius.

Personal attacks are not acceptable as a form of debate, please try to remain on topic. You advocate sheltering children from reality.

My daughter is living with her boyfriend at college and is sexually active you big silly. You should recall our discussion where I talked about her and I discussing her sex life. Because my children and I live in the real world and discuss reality.

I've been a parent for 20 years, get back to me when you have a clue honey. lol

Yamu - I've taken my kids on a field trip to downtown new orleans to show them what happens if you screw up your life.
 
Buxbaum666 said:
We shouldn't argue about this, we are basically on the same page. Maybe. My initial statement was a bit too broad. I didn't mean to play down the danger of other drugs by saying alcohol isn't less dangerous, I was trying to say that alcohol is a dangerous drug. More dangerous than some, less dangerous than others. And still the second biggest killer of them all. Close, but no cigar. That one goes to tobacco, which, I guess, gets to smoke itself there.
Let's face it: drug laws are arbitrary bullshit.
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Yep. Not exactly on the same page (our opinions do differ on some specifics), but close. I went too far anyway..

I have generally a problem with broad statements such as this, mainly because it easily allows certain people to switch their meaning around in their favor. So, I can get pretty emotional there. ;)
 
DammitBoy said:
I've taken my kids on a field trip to downtown new orleans to show them what happens if you screw up your life.
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Fun field trip.

Just for clarification what's it like downtown new orleans and detroit?
 
donperkan said:
DammitBoy said:
I've taken my kids on a field trip to downtown new orleans to show them what happens if you screw up your life.
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Fun field trip.

Just for clarification what's it like downtown new orleans and detroit?
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Imagine any street in a former colonial city in africa but with more gunfire.
 
Detroit is so bad that they are privatizing the police force practically. Most of the cops are moving out of Detroit too which makes it even worse. I believe it is the murder capital of the US right now. Basically like Farmerk said, the Den except worse.
 
And of course New Orleans is the only place in the US where that happens.

And it happens because they're black, not because of poverty, terrible social conditions, wide availability of firearms, or the fact that the city was shot to hell by a giant fuck-off hurricane a few years back. Yeah, scratch all that stuff, it's because they're black.
 
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