Parenting and Drinking for Eternity

[Brother None]

So how does not acknowledging that young black men are shooting each other at an alarming rate in every major US city solve racism?

Who said it did? Focusing on race on poverty-cultural induced problems is racism. Ignoring it doesn't solve the problem, it just avoids it. Solving it would consist of recognizing that it's poverty-cultural induced rather than racial.

But I think it might be too late for you. Hopefully not for your kids.

 

[Crni Vuk]

you can learn a lot from this man.

No he can't. Morgan Freeman is dumb as a brick. "Don't talk about it!" That'll solve racism!

maybe I got it wrong but from how I understand it is more about the fact that we make a difference between colours like it is changing anything really. I mean in relation with the question if we need a "jewish history month" for example. Or if you want a "german history month" considering how many Germans moved to the US. Or any other nation or what ever. No clue.

you can learn a lot from this man.

No he can't. Morgan Freeman is dumb as a brick. "Don't talk about it!" That'll solve racism!

So how does not acknowledging that young black men are shooting each other at an alarming rate in every major US city solve racism?

I don't remember the exact wording, but I think you had either with Sander or some other moderator (welsh?) a nice discussion about the gun crimes and black people. It was in of the gun topics. It seemed like you had this view that black people would be somehow the issue here and not poverty and the other typical sources for crimes like low education, bad parenting etc. which have nothing to do with skin colours. But as said. I don't remember the whole context just that it was not in your favour.

 

[Ilosar]

maybe I got it wrong but from how I understand it is more about the fact that we make a difference between colours like it is changing anything really. I mean in relation with the question if we need a "jewish history month" for example. Or if you want a "german history month" considering how many Germans moved to the US. Or any other nation or what ever. No clue.

That's how I saw it too.

Then again, the blacks are unique (along with the Natives, I guess) with how they were oppressed in the US's history. I mean, sure the Irish were roughened up a bit when they immigrated en masse, and the Germans had a bad rep following the world wars, and there were these shameful internment camps for Japanese during WW2, but the blacks were either enslaved or segregated up until the 60's. I figure that's the motivation for Black History Month; not forgetting all the bad shit they had to go through. Incidentely, is there a Native history month?

I also love how the whole discussion started about Project Eternity, to drinking, to bad parenting, to racism. Are we an argumentative bunch.

 

[DammitBoy]

So how does not acknowledging that young black men are shooting each other at an alarming rate in every major US city solve racism?

Who said it did? Focusing on race on poverty-cultural induced problems is racism. Ignoring it doesn't solve the problem, it just avoids it. Solving it would consist of recognizing that it's poverty-cultural induced rather than racial.

I'm not focusing on race, I'm focusing on a fact. You keep throwing race in with the rest of the girls. I fully recognize that poverty and culture are the cause, in fact it's government induced.

If it was latinos that were the number one killer of each other, I'd say latino. If it was honkeys killing crackers, I'd say it was white boys. But it's not, so saying it is just factual.

You boys live in too pc a world. Seriously.


ps - Why do you guys call Obama black? He's just as white as he is black, you bunch of racist pigs.

 

[Brother None]

I'm not focusing on race.

Hah. You can keep saying this, but it doesn't make it true. You thought it noteworthy to specify poverty and ethnicity when talking about gun violence in the US, drawing a direct causal relationship, when factually their skin color is irrelevant to their behavior, other than how it is perceived by racists and profiling law enforcement. It's about a segment of the population that stems from a cultural and poverty background that stretches across ethnicity, yet the first thing you bring up is their ethnicity. That makes you a racist.

ps - Why do you guys call Obama black? He's just as white as he is black, you bunch of racist pigs.

What? It's you who first brought up "the president is black".

 

[Ilosar]

I fully recognize that poverty and culture are the cause, in fact it's government induced.

Even when you attempt to talk sense, you manage to include some worthless scapegoating.

Who keeps throwing race in? You were the first to specify you were talking about black people and you never bothered to address any counter point beyond calling the rest of us girls.

You do realize you are digging the pits you trip on, right?

 

[Walpknut]

As an outsider to whatever your past interactions are, I never saw DammitBoy mentioning that he showed them to his kids because they were black Until someone used the racist card.

But whatever.

I don't drink, not even half a glass, and it's because I ahev some rather bad memories linked to the consumption of alcohol, I am not going into detail, is not as bad as you may think.

 

[TorontoReign]

I also love how the whole discussion started about Project Eternity, to drinking, to bad parenting, to racism. Are we an argumentative bunch.

I know right? A thread was derailed, split, and is now being derailed again. Where can we go from here? Nowhere but up I'd say! So how do racists drink around their kids DB?

 

[Crni Vuk]

He is maybe just trolling us all. We are his puppets. And we love to dance.

 

[DammitBoy]

As an outsider to whatever your past interactions are, I never saw DammitBoy mentioning that he showed them to his kids because they were black Until someone used the racist card.

Thanks for the effort, but they can't see past their biased blinders.

 

[Brother None]

So you agree that bringing up their race when it's not a factor to their crime rate is at best irrelevant and at worst racist? You keep defending bringing it up. Sure, you didn't bring it up in that manner originally, but that doesn't change that you're still defending it as a valid viewpoint. Kilus just gave you some rope, you're the one who ran with it.

But no, please, it's our biased blinders that are the problem. Just keep telling yourself that.

He is maybe just trolling us all. We are his puppets. And we love to dance.

Nah. This is who he is. That's why we worry for his kids.

 

[DammitBoy]

So you agree that bringing up their race when it's not a factor to their crime rate is at best irrelevant and at worst racist?

Not at all. It's simply factual.

Sure, you didn't bring it up in that manner originally...

Of course not, I'm not the one playing the race card.

 

[zegh8578]

Black people in Nigeria know how to do brain surgery, and pilot jet fighters.

 

[Crni Vuk]

So you agree that bringing up their race when it's not a factor to their crime rate is at best irrelevant and at worst racist?

Not at all. It's simply factual.

the question is what you now do with those "facts".

 

[Sander]

So you agree that bringing up their race when it's not a factor to their crime rate is at best irrelevant and at worst racist?

Not at all. It's simply factual.

Lots of things are factual. Doesn't mean they're relevant.

 

[DammitBoy]

So you agree that bringing up their race when it's not a factor to their crime rate is at best irrelevant and at worst racist?

Not at all. It's simply factual.

Lots of things are factual. Doesn't mean they're relevant.

Like the racist comments not being accurate or factual or relevant.

 

[Kilus]

Like the racist comments not being accurate or factual or relevant.

Then why make them?

 

[Crni Vuk]

because it is relevant to mention that many jewish people work in banks for example.

Is it true? Who cares. You have to mention that they are jews.

*of course I am not serious

 

[DammitBoy]

Like the racist comments not being accurate or factual or relevant.

Then why make them?

Good question, why do you see racism where there is none or are you simply trolling as usual?

 

[Jebus]

Wise man says: "Never wrestle in mud with pig, you both get dirty and pig enjoy it."

*EDIT* for clarity: you're the pig, DB.