PG-13 Terminator

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Stag said:
Everything is opinion, it's silly to think otherwise.

Look, I liked Terminator. I enjoyed it. But, as I said in the Star Trek thread, there's such a thing as pulp, and you gotta realize that. Terminator is pulp. It is disposable.
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Even facts are opinions?

Dude, not everything has to be for everyone's standards or tastes. If you don't care, then don't care. Lay it off. Go watch a porn and jerk of or something.

Don't read fan forums. Go do something creative. Cure cancer.
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What if I don't want to? I like how every dispute seems to be won with "LOL WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO SUCK YOUR OWN COCK THEN?" Maybe I don't want to, maybe I'm not flexible enough. Either way, I don't mind shitting on your shit parade.
I don't care about your amazazing franchise being changed (likely for the better), and I find it amusing to tell this to you since you so clearly do.

I don't see how that is infringing on your ability to gripe. In fact, maybe it'll help you see things in a different light, I don't know.
 
@Stag

So basically, you like to be a dick?

Thank you very much. They will probably close this thread soon.
 
I don't dislike being a dick. And I don't see why that means this thread is going to be closed. I'm not trolling, I'm trying to engage you guys a little bit, but whatever.
 
I get where Stag is coming from. I enjoyed Terminator more when it embraced it's pulpy nature - gritty, grimy, low budget action movie. T2 turned me off for being too slick and over-produced, and I never could stand John Connor as a squeaky punk. T3 was totally dispensable - just substitute your favorite
I'd love to see another one like the 1st, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. They're trying to hard to make the next Hollywood Summertime Action Blockbuster.
Too bad, when I heard that Terminator music playing in the new preview, I got really excited.

I'd disagree about Star Trek being pulp like Terminator. It had a lot more philosophical depth and some pretty good writers early on Harlan Ellison, Richard Matheson, maybe even Bradbury IIRC???
 
Urm, maybe you don't quite get where I'm coming from, but that's ok too. :D
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
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I'd love to see another one like the 1st, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. They're trying to hard to make the next Hollywood Summertime Action Blockbuster.
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What I dont understand is why Terminator 4 has to look like a rip off from Transformers when they had with Terminator 1 and 2 the best references for the war in the future ...

I guess everything has to be a hoolywood bluckbuster today.
 
Embarressing design of the new machines... The autobikes and the big "awzuuum" megarobot... While it has been a dream for me ever since I was watching 1 and 2 a long time ago, to watch a full movie about the war, this is NOTHING that I was hoping for!!!

Anyone misses the characteriscly (sorry I'm tired, swedish and wont even try to spell that correctly, haha) metallic blue color in the future war scenes?! Why change that?
 
PastaMasta said:
Terminator 1 was good. The rest are....meh.
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I rather liked Terminator 2 as well, but yeah the original is a classic that has never been repeated after.

I wish they would make an edition with every missing scene in it, similar to the Alien restoration edition.
 
3 was bad but it was really fun and the ending was ballsy, not that I'll get into spoilers or anything.

I'm looking forward to 4, my only fear is that it might take itself too seriosly... 2 and 3 walk this great line between annihalation and action movie metahumor.
 
I fear more a very over the top scenario and a very over the top John Connor who more raises irritation than inspiration in people.
 
anyone just compare the athmosphere of this Terminator future scenes with the T4 trailer and tell me with all seriousness T4 is better.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI42TeuwlMw&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLHik9TiJkA[/youtube]

They really should have tried to keep that eerie, cold and fearsome desperate apocalyptic design. By just watching the T4 trailer I somewhat loose any mood to watch the movie as it seems to not have much in common with the known Terminator future ...
 
When I see the trailer of the new terminator movie I honestly feel like I am watching a very expensive video game.

I am sure it will excite a lot of people but it lacks the atmosphere Cameron created in in T1 and T2.
 
dirtbag said:
Anyone misses the characteriscly (sorry I'm tired, swedish and wont even try to spell that correctly, haha) metallic blue color in the future war scenes?! Why change that?
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And the trademark of all 80s action movies - frenetic synthesizer score!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ayk1LEaxA&feature=related [/youtube]

Still waiting for John Carpenter's triumphant comeback over here.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
I fear more a very over the top scenario and a very over the top John Connor who more raises irritation than inspiration in people.
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Then i guess you must probably LOVE the sarah connor chronicles John Connor.... :P

Crni Vuk said:
What I dont understand is why Terminator 4 has to look like a rip off from Transformers when they had with Terminator 1 and 2 the best references for the war in the future ...

I guess everything has to be a hoolywood bluckbuster today.
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dirtbag said:
Embarressing design of the new machines... The autobikes and the big "awzuuum" megarobot...
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The Dutch Ghost said:
When I see the trailer of the new terminator movie I honestly feel like I am watching a very expensive video game.
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There will come a time when the disgusting mass breaks what little boundaries it has left and all is just one big uniform blockbuster money maker mass from which all audio visual forms will draw, so Fallout 4, Terminator 5, Star Trek 2 and whatever else, will have the exact same "plot", the same kind of special effects, the same music and the same ending. A time where the people with standards and at least 2/3 of a brain will be called backwards caveman and be wished a horribly painful de...oh wait...that part is already happening... :)

Pvt. Joe Bowers said:
[addressing Congress] ... great films, with plots! Where you cared about whose ass it was, and why it was farting!
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Then i guess you must probably LOVE the sarah connor chronicles John Connor....
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Actually I quite dislike that series and its concept, and I feared for a while Alien and Predator might have been given the same treatment.
 
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