Political Spergatory or How I Learned To Love /pol

DarkCorp said:
If we zoom in closer to the rainbow, you will see specific colors fighting to get to the top while others are trampled over.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
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I got that pic when /pol/ tried to make rainbow flag a racist symbol or something, it was so stupid it was hilarious.
 
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Funny story about this whole "anti-white" bullshit we are seeing in corporations. Apparently, the main reason these corporations are doing it isn't because of any love for black people (LOL! If it was maybe give them a livable wage with health care benefits) rather, it is to stop people from forming unions. Hear me out. Unions are typically formed when employees, from all walks of life, come together and demand that their work place give them benefits. Health care, dental, safe working conditions, paid time off, child care, ect. Corporations hate unions with a passion. I mean, just look at what Coke Cola did in Columbia a few months back. They hired mercs to kill the union leaders at their plants. Now that shit won't fly in the West so how do corporations here prevent unions from forming? Why, by dividing people of course. Make them hateful and resentful of each other. The more people hate and resent each other the less likely unions will form. It is so sinister and Machiavellian. After all, the best way for a king and his court to not get outed by the peasants is to make the peasants turn on and hate each other.

Oh and another thing I will like to add too that will be ignored by Leftist on NMA but fuck them:
Leftists: "Trump thinks Nazis are fine people!"
Biden: "Don't worry about the genocide in China, it's just their culture."
Leftists: "Whatever you say Uncle Joe! You're so much better than Orange Man!

Not like Leftists, especially on here, have any standards... Fahrenheit 451 is right. Humanity, at least the Left in my opinion, need a fucking factory full of mirrors to take a look at themselves and reflect.
 
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Corps wouldn't be able to play the race hustling game if the people they are targeting don''t get involved. Unfortunately, the left and liberals have often decides that they too will fight fire with fire, two wrongs do not make a right.
 
I always cringe when someone says "liberals". Do people not know what liberalism actually is?
 
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hijack the term liberal to sound mainstream, get mad when it now has negative connotations. Buy hey Liberalism and Social Justice used to be firm Republican platforms.
RangerBoo said:
Not like Leftists, especially on here, have any standards... Fahrenheit 451 is right. Humanity, at least the Left in my opinion, need a fucking factory full of mirrors to take a look at themselves and reflect.
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Fucking leftiest ruin everything.
 
Things ruined by leftists.

  • TV.
  • Movies.
  • Video games.
  • Books.
  • School.
  • Coffee.
  • Beards.
  • Nature.
  • Socialism.
  • Food.
  • Cars.
  • Men.
  • Women.
  • Children.
  • Water.
  • Earth.
  • Space.
  • Clothes.
  • Pets.
  • Sports.
  • The Internet.
  • Comic Books.
  • Toys.
  • Outside.
  • Inside.
  • etc.
 
To me

Lefty/Progressive = Extreme left. Bernie/AOC/

Liberal = Center Left
Obama/Clinton

Center ?

Conservative = Center Right
McCain/Fiorina

Rightwinger = Extreme Right
Lassez Faire capitalists/Tea Party

Then you just have racists of all colors.
 
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DarkCorp said:
To me

Lefty/Progressive = Extreme left. Bernie/AOC/

Liberal = Center Left
Obama/Clinton

Center ?

Conservative = Center Right
McCain/Fiorina

Rightwinger = Extreme Right
Lassez Faire capitalists/Tea Party

Then you just have racists of all colors.
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Policy wise for most things I would actually be even further to the left than what you think is extremist left considering they are not even at the same level as Euro left in most ways.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Of course not. What is considered "left" in the US is pretty centrist here in Europe.
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Die Linke doesn't sound much further left than the likes of Sanders and AOC. Unless there is great enthusiasm for actual communist or anarcho parties.

They do go a bit further in geo politics though.
 
DarkCorp said:
Unless there is great enthusiasm for actual communist or anarcho parties.
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Like as that is everything on the left ... Obviously AOC and Bernie have overlaping ideas. They are closer to "The Left" than Ted Cruz or Rubio ever will be that's a given. But there are many topics discussed here among the political left that neither Bernie nor AOC would actually touch. Like nationalisation of the infrastructure or expanding the already existing social programs and welfare. And sometimes you can even see that. Take Spain for eample. If I am not wrong their governement has nationalised their hospitals to deal with the pandemic as Spain was hit quite hard. If it will stay that way once the pandemic is over? That remains to be seen.

Compared to the United States many european countries are already pretty far to the left with their social systems and state regulations anyway. So it often is about expanding those and improving them. And yes there is also communism discussed. But those are really rather footnotes.
 
I'd like my views on this tested as I can't make up my mind quite, but think I know what conclusion I am headed to.

When/how should cultural/historical relics be returned to their country of origin if taken illegally? What if that country no longer exists? What if that country has various risk factors to that relics continued existence?
Ex: Should the Ishtar Gate be returned to Iraq now?
 
Morgan_ said:
When/how should cultural/historical relics be returned to their country of origin if taken illegally? What if that country no longer exists? What if that country has various risk factors to that relics continued existence?
Ex: Should the Ishtar Gate be returned to Iraq now?
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The problem is, that's an incredibly complex question that a bunch of people on an internet forum aren't going to have the answer to.

Like, the UN literally hires teams of Heritage Studies and International Law experts to figure out questions exactly like these, and even then they often have to make personal judgements. One of my lecturers at uni was literally part of a team that went to Timbuktu following the destruction of multiple internationally recognised heritage sites by Ahmed Al Faqi Al Mahdi to figure out how reparations should be paid, and how the rebuilding process should take place, and there were multiple complexities there with vastly differing opinions among local people.

When it comes to Heritage, often the discussions are incredibly complex with factors over who's heritage it is to begin with which often isn't clear cut, questions of whether the local people even want it back, questions of whether it's safe, there's the question of whether the government even represents the group in question (Even in some cases where they claim to, plenty of governments show clear biases in groups they represent).

I think the answer most people who advocate for giving them back propose is that it shouldn't be decided in a top-down fashion, with the countries holding the relics being the sole decision makers, nor the governments of the countries they were taken from, but rather it has to be an active process with continuous consulation with the people who the items of heritage most directly effect. There's not always going to be straightforward answers, but that doesn't necessarily mean "Since it's not straightforward or there are complications, we should keep it without consulting anyone else" is the answer.
 
Yeah, wasn't looking for a decisive answer I was really looking to see if my reasoning made sense regarding Ishtar going back sometime soon, or even nations that are 1st world that have relics in other countries. China for example, which seems like it would be much easier to answer overall.
Also, I am bored and forking stuff out of my head that has been floating around.
 
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