Poll: Would you buy Fallout 5?

Would you buy Fallout 5?

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DirtyOldShoe said:
He is addressing youth and inexperience, but your post suggests you are 13 so I do expect you to be as seasoned as us.
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Colleges allow 13 year-olds? Not from what I know. Sounds like an interesting one. :smug:

Try not to make baseless assumptions in the future. Yes, I did say I was significantly younger than most people here, but that was taken from what I've seen of many NMAers outright-described birth dates - that a lot of people here are 30 to 40 years old. Seeing as a lot of you played Fallout 1 when it came out.

DirtyOldShoe said:
Mr. Fish isn't addressing the intellect of people in the world being on a steady decline, which it is.
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No, it isn't.


 
All right, let me clear some shit up here.
@Practicat said that maybe in time more people will wizen up to what Bethesda is doing and call them out on it.
I pointed out that those who have experience with TES' and Fallout's alterations over each game will be replaced by newcomers.
@ZigzagPX4 then asked if NMA had any faith in future generations.
I replied and said that I don't in the young ones because they are young.

Young gamers don't give as much of a shit about games as we do because they haven't had time to develop a strong interest in it. To them, it's mostly just something they do for fun and couldn't care less how a series progresses so long as the game itself is simply fun. I know this because I was one of them when I was young. Hell, I was one around the time Fallout 3 was released and it wasn't until like 2009 that something in my brain flicked on and I started to look around me and notice how shit everything had become.

I'm not saying anything at all about the intelligence of adults and I'm not saying kids are getting dumber over the years. I'm saying kids are dumb, period, because they are kids. You were dumb as a kid. I was dumb as a kid. The kids these days are just as dumb. There are deviations but they are not the norm. So do I personally have faith in the kids of all people being the ones that finally goes "no!" to Bethesda's dumbing down of their IP's? Absolutely not. Because they're kids and they just want something fun to play and Bethesda games can be really fun on their own merits. I don't have much faith in adults either though. Because a lot of adults are still dumb as a sack of bricks. But at least they more-so over the kids have the capacity to look around them and notice how shitty a lot of things have become.

That's it.

I don't have faith in any group of people or demographic. Because I'm a bitter cynical asshole. But the ones I have the least faith in is the kids. But at the same time I don't blame them for it. They can't help it that they're young and inexperienced and haven't become as jaded as me. Hell, one could argue that they're better off because of it.
 
Yeah, okay. I misinterpreted your definition of "younger generation", but now your point makes more sense. :ok:

In which case, being a bitter cynic about dumb kids directing the standard for major games? I do it too. Considering I have relatives younger than me who fill this role directly, I probably vent more about it than I should, just that I usually don't vent here.

I guess it's actually better to not have faith in any demographics first and be impressed later. It's not like there's much to be optimistic about with entertainment these days, but I stay optimistic because I'm wide-eyed levels of incredibly naive. Sue me. :razz:
 
I skipped the last 2 of their Fallouts as well and only sprung for New Vegas.

It's just not worth it to me to pay money to legitimize what they've done to the series, and maybe get a couple hours of actual enjoyment out of the games.

I'm not in the camp that claims there is no redeeming value to either game, but I do not see enough of it to justify purchasing and spending my limited time playing either FO3 or FO4 (or FO5) even one day when they are on sale.

Even if you make oranges really cheap, if I'm hungry for apples I'm not going to buy your product.
 
I'll buy Fallout 5, if the reviews and general consensus from both the press and NMA shows they made at the very least a decent game. It's a big if.
 
I didn't even buy Fallout 4.

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I'll just wait for the Codex and NMA to dump on Fallout 5(I'll join in of course) and watch YouTube videos of the game being played with people doing 360 noscopes on preying zombies and orcs until I go back to the forums so I don't fall asleep.
Won't bother with 4's DLC paid mods as I will make a difference(even if it's a tiny one) with my wallet and spend my money on way better things. I'll wait for everyone to say how the DLCs are dumbed down from the base game. :smile:
 
I'm probably buying actually, see where the good things are and where the bad things are. Give the ability to make a good fair opinion.
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
No one on NMA has faith in any of the next generations at all, do they?
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Not everything is bad, and not every AAA game that is released is garbage. Hell, I would say that you can find enough people on NMA that actually enjoy some of the popular games. Like Borderlands, or no clue, even CoD. Thing is, the issue isn't CoD, Borderlands or their popularity. The issue is, that a company like Bethesda is taking a well known franchise, with deep RPG mechanics, and turned it basically into a shooter. Let us be honest, probably 90% of the people that bought F3 and F4 never played the old Fallout games. But What disturbs me about it, isn't even the people that buy and enjoy it, it's the people that tell me with a straight face, that F3 and F4 are improvements to Fallout 1 and 2 as RPGs. That's the problem. Enjoying F4 becuse you're ignorant is a sin that I can forgive, but closing your eyes despite of the evidence in front of you, that's well, simply moronic.
 
I admit I can enjoy games like Borderlands with a group of friends or play Team Fortress 2 just shooting and killing things but I like to keep that out of RPGs because it tends to create games like Fallout 4.
 
MercenarySnake said:
I admit I can enjoy games like Borderlands with a group of friends or play Team Fortress 2 just shooting and killing things but I like to keep that out of RPGs because it tends to create games like Fallout 4.
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I feel the same way. Keep the two out of each other, and you have limitless variety (always a good thing). Keep the two together and you have a mess, like Fallout 4.

You know, I recall Yahtzee Croshaw of Zero Punctuation fame saying something about "anything is fun when experienced with friends", and that rings true with a lot of games like Borderlands and Destiny.

Think of when you watch good movies, it's enjoyable both alone and with friends. When you watch bad movies with friends - you can make fun of them together, but when you watch a bad movie alone, it's just painful and a waste of time.

Now the comparison is not exact, but I feel like it is partially true. It's not a compliment to say a game really stands out when you're playing multiplayer, because multiplayer gameplay is dependent on variables not within the game itself.

That's not to say multiplayer games aren't fun - there are many good ones - but true quality is in being able to rely solely on the singleplayer.
 
Dr Fallout said:
I agree, pretty much everything is fun with friends. Bethesda needs to learn that, sadly I'm scared they will.
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Ha ha ha. They won't. The quest system they have been using since Morrowind only supports single player. They might have thought about it for a second, but I'm sure they will be using the same engine for the next 10 years at least. No matter how much they fuck up the games we want to love, they won't venture down that road and forbid their precious Gamebryo engine. Gamebryo does not support multi player.
 
DirtyOldShoe said:
Ha ha ha. They won't. The quest system they have been using since Morrowind only supports single player. They might have thought about it for a second, but I'm sure they will be using the same engine for the next 10 years at least. No matter how much they fuck up the games we want to love, they won't venture down that road and forbid their precious Gamebryo engine. Gamebryo does not support multi player.
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But think about it, their quests are GEARED towards multiplayer! Endless killing sounds familiar.
 
DirtyOldShoe said:
Ha ha ha. They won't. The quest system they have been using since Morrowind only supports single player. They might have thought about it for a second, but I'm sure they will be using the same engine for the next 10 years at least. No matter how much they fuck up the games we want to love, they won't venture down that road and forbid their precious Gamebryo engine. Gamebryo does not support multi player.
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That won't stop them from trying. If Fallout 4 is any indication, Bethesda is fond of attempting to hurl themselves off a cliff as soon as someone offers to pay them to do it. They will try integration, and they will keep the attempts quiet until one of them is successful.

Also, Creation doesn't support multiplayer as far as we've seen, but Gamebryo sure as hell does.
 
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