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CT Phipps said:
The original Tweet created a big controversy among the Alt-Right.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-of-star-wars-wage-dumpstarwars-campaign.html

The thing is, oppressing aliens is meant as a ****ING METAPHOR for RL social injustice. The fact people can't get this is very very weird.
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Yes and? The Empire isn't a white-supremacist group, it's a metaphor for one. There's a really big difference between calling a faction something literally (when I say Caesar's Legion are savage killers, I'm not meaning it as a metaphor) and meaning it metaphorically. Some people need to know the difference.

Multicultural rebels make sense, because the Empire promotes only one culture, but the whole white supremacist statement is fucking retarded. Call them a metaphor for one, not actually one.
 
CT Phipps said:
The original Tweet created a big controversy among the Alt-Right.
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Causing a big controversy amongst the Alt-Right isn't much of an achievement tbh.

These are people who got triggered by washing machines, and think they are at war with Kellogg's.
 
Remember when the right and left controlled some of the most powerful nations in the world and had millions of supporters, while fighting for their glorious causes? Yeah, me too. Shame that's ended...
 
I'm sure some cooks on "the left" will also be insulted by Rogue One and wage a campaign against it... I mean, they waged a campaign against Tim Burton for using white kids in a story taking place in the middle of nowhere Wales in 1940. Because I'm sure Wales was full of all kinds of kids from all over the world at that time...
 
Can't wait for the first WW2 movie, with trans-genders and females storming the beaches of France like a University campus.
DIVERSITY WON THE WAR! NOT THOUSANDS OF TANKS, TROOPS AND INCREDIBLE LOGISCTICS! And also bombing German industry to kingdom come.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Can't wait for the first WW2 movie, with trans-genders and females storming the beaches of France like a University campus.
DIVERSITY WON THE WAR! NOT THOUSANDS OF TANKS, TROOPS AND INCREDIBLE LOGISCTICS! And also bombing German industry to kingdom come.
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I can already see it, the Russians are all smoking hot, shitty Russian accent and lesbian snipers.
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CT Phipps said:
The original Tweet created a big controversy among the Alt-Right.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-of-star-wars-wage-dumpstarwars-campaign.html
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The article refers to the Alt-Right as Nazis, and then they proceed to show tweets showing alt-righters saying they're offended BECAUSE THE MOVIE IS CALLING THEM NAZIS. HELLO? Did whoever write this just completely miss the fucking point of what those tweets were saying? #DumpStarWars is trending right now because we, whether moderate Right or alt Right, are fucking tired of being labeled as Nazis/Islamophobes/Racists/Homophobes/Insert Buzzword Here just because we aren't always "Politically Correct." It's one of the main reasons Trump won, we're tired of being insulted.

For that matter, if that stupid tweet saying "Just Remember, The Empire is a White Supremacist Organization" is accurate, then how in the flying fuck is Finn (Flynn? Fynn? Idc) a Storm Trooper? He's black. In an actual White Supremacist organization that would be a huge no-no. You don't exactly see black KKK members for example except as a joke in movies or some kind of parody of the KKK.
 
Ragemage said:
#DumpStarWars is trending right now because we, whether moderate Right or alt Right, are fucking tired of being labeled as Nazis/Islamophobes/Racists/Homophobes/Insert Buzzword Here just because we aren't always "Politically Correct." It's one of the main reasons Trump won, we're tired of being insulted.
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I agree that the moderate right should not have all those labels put on them(Same with the moderate left as well, they shouldn't have labels put on them either), but Alt-Righters, from what I can tell are the extreme.

Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen the term "Alt-Right" is usually used to describe the extreme kinds of right-wingers, the type who follow Breitbart for instance.
 
JO'Geran said:
I agree that the moderate right should not have all those labels put on them(Same with the moderate left as well, they shouldn't have labels put on them either), but Alt-Righters, from what I can tell are the extreme.

Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen the term "Alt-Right" is usually used to describe the extreme kinds of right-wingers, the type who follow Breitbart for instance.
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Exactly.
I don't know who identifies as alt-right, but within the ranks there are a lot of swastikas, a lot of signing messages with "sieg heil" and "88", a lot of sympathy and apologism for nazis - a lot of direct, outright identification AS nazi - as in "yes, I am nazi"

Then why get offended at being called out as nazi?
Also, if alt-righters are truly opposed to outright fascism, clean up your fucking ranks. Take some responsability.
 
zegh8578 said:
Exactly.
I don't know who identifies as alt-right, but within the ranks there are a lot of swastikas, a lot of signing messages with "sieg heil" and "88", a lot of sympathy and apologism for nazis - a lot of direct, outright identification AS nazi - as in "yes, I am nazi"

Then why get offended at being called out as nazi?
Also, if alt-righters are truly opposed to outright fascism, clean up your fucking ranks. Take some responsability.
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I don't know who identifies as the alt-left, but within the ranks there are a lot of sickles and hammers, a lot of signing messages with "Down with the Proletariat" and "Marxism is the only way to go", a lot of sympathy and apologism for commies - a lot of direct, outright identification AS commie - as in "yes, I am commie"

Then why get offended at being called out as a commie?
Also, if alt-lefters are truly opposed to outright marxism, clean up your fucking ranks. Take some responsibility.

JO'Geran said:
Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen the term "Alt-Right" is usually used to describe the extreme kinds of right-wingers, the type who follow Breitbart for instance.
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The alt-right can be a term used for extremists yes, but for the most part it isn't. You use the example of Brietbart as a source of right-wing extremism (aka white straight supremacy) but do you know who some of their actual staff is? Milo Yiannopoulos for example is a gay Catholic Brit with Jewish ancestry who, in his own words, has a "strong affinity for black cock." Not to mention Raheem Kassam, a former Muslim atheist who was raised in Britain and has Middle Eastern ancestry. That sounds super duper right-wing to me.
 
Ragemage said:
I don't know who identifies as the alt-left, but within the ranks there are a lot of sickles and hammers, a lot of signing messages with "Down with the Proletariat" and "Marxism is the only way to go", a lot of sympathy and apologism for commies - a lot of direct, outright identification AS commie - as in "yes, I am commie"

Then why get offended at being called out as a commie?
Also, if alt-lefters are truly opposed to outright marxism, clean up your fucking ranks. Take some responsibility.
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"alt-left" is not a self-imposed term, but a term created by the alt-right as an insult to their opponents.
You just dug yourself further down, while still refusing to distance yourself from nazis.

GOOD TO KNOW, fascist.
 
zegh8578 said:
"alt-left" is not a self-imposed term, but a term created by the alt-right as an insult to their opponents.
You just dug yourself further down, while still refusing to distance yourself from nazis.

GOOD TO KNOW, fascist.
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First of all, I am not alt-right. I am a moderate Republican. Second of all, the point is both the alt-right and the alt left have their extremists, but that doesn't drag the entire branch down. Sure there are fascists on the alt-right but that sure as fuck doesn't make them all fascists. That's why I used the example of the alt-left to counter what you were saying. I could say the left is a cesspool of scum and villainy because of their ties to Marxism, but that wouldn't be true because not all leftists are associated with Communsim. The same applies to alt-righters. As an example of what I'm talking about:

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You just dug yourself further down by not even acknowledging the other half of my post, while still refusing to distance yourself from commies.

GOOD TO KNOW, Marxist.
 
I never needed to distance myself from marxists, any more than I needed to distance myself from fascists. I don't belong to a movement. I have never once defended militant communism or those identifying with it, I have never found myself in that position to be honest.

You JUST finished defending the "alt-right", which by definition are white supremacists

If you want me to, though, I will gladly distance myself from extreme leftism. Here I go:
Fuck extreme leftists, and their murderous ways. Fuck them in the ear, and to hell with their mothers.

Your turn.
 
Dr Fallout said:
Communists are far better than fascist pigdogs. Hammer and sickle all the way!
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Of course. I always consider myself a socialist, rather than conservative. But "socialist" and "conservative" are both rather mild. I always supported the Scandinavian model of "middle road" social-democracy.

But, like I said before - when communism goes wrong, it ends with mass-murder. I always oppose mass-murder.
When fascism gets it right - it ends with mass murder. This is why I can never sympathize with this side of it, or anybody making apologies for it.
 
zegh8578 said:
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You're missing the whole point that I'm defending alt-righters who are NOT Nazis. Not all alt-righters are Nazis, just like all alt-lefters are Commies. There are people of all colors on both sides, are you daft? Do I need to go dig up photos of black/latino/asian/etc alt-righters for you to be satisfied?

I don't associate with those who would harm people only because of their skin, I don't like racism, I'm part Cherokee and I'm bisexual. I don't associate myself with Nazi-ism but I blame Europe's coddling and PC ways (such as arresting Holocaust deniers) leading to the rise of neo-nazis and their ilk.
 
Ragemage said:
I don't associate with those who would harm people only because of their skin, I don't like racism, I'm part Cherokee and I'm bisexual. I don't associate myself with Nazi-ism but I blame Europe's coddling and PC ways (such as arresting Holocaust deniers) leading to the rise of neo-nazis and their ilk.
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See, this is important to spell-out when certain flags are waving.
You might think it is redundant, but it is not, I can assure you of it.
"If you keep calling us nazis, then - " then what, you'll all start gassing jews because of some spiteful counter-reaction?

I *know* there are non-nazis among the alt-right, but there is a LOT of outright support, prooobably out of group loyalty.
I have had my share with distancing myself with hardline communists, I started distancing myself from them when I was 14, and that is over 20 years ago.

Know though, that if the pendulum swings aaany further to the right, there will be an inevitable conclusion to it all. Mexicans, Muslims, Gays, they WILL suffer. Then, after that, the pendulum will swing back again. It's all fun and games, untill it all hits the stupid fan. It's all posturing and memes, untill it gets very very real, and lives are destroyed - on both sides.
 
zegh8578 said:
When fascism gets it right - it ends with mass murder. This is why I can never sympathize with this side of it, or anybody making apologies for it.
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Ahem, that's only nazism. Last time I checked Mussolini's Italy and Franco's Spain weren't going around mass murdering jews and gays.
 
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