STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (HUGE SPOILERS EVERYWHERE)

I didn't realize the main First Order ship was called the Supremacy. That's some really cringy pandering.
 
Eh. The sequel trilogy doesn't kill or RUIN Star Wars for me, they are just "meh" with their own set of problems beyond such an abstract one as "franchise killing". Plus, I'm not sure if there'd has bee. All the shit to allegedly subvert, kill or ruin if Jar Jar and Co. hadn't made TFA to be such a tat and safely "familiar" trilogy starter. You couldn't go kill/ruin Luke if you hadn't brought him back as a plot point in the first place :rofl:

Walpknut said:
I didn't realize the main First Order ship waqs called the Supremacy. That's some really cringy pandering.
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I've called ship designs that aren't even flagships shit along those lines and most of the time not even in the space nazi games in my assorted space 4x.
 
Leia: "Poe, you are not a Leader because you risked people's lives on a dangerous mission to actually achieve a victory."

Also Leia: "My plan is to hole up in a Salt planet and then throw soldiers in rackety ships at the First Order's hi tech weapons until they get tired so I can live a bit more."
 
That's kind of ignoring what happens, really. One's a mostly unnecessary phyrric victory while the other is trying to get away from the fuckery the better possible. Did she even suggest herself to use the shitty speeder things?
 
Arnust said:
That's kind of ignoring what happens, really. One's a mostly unnecessary phyrric victory while the other is trying to get away from the fuckery the better possible. Did she even suggest herself to use the shitty speeder things?
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But it was the plan they banked losing their entire fleet on and seemingly had no other countermeasure and expected the First Order to just not notcie a cluster of ships leaving the big one in group at the same time going in the same direction.
The movie paints her as a great leader Poe has to learn from, but her only plan shown on screen is terrible and actually gets everyone killed in a futile fashion, hell if it wasn't for Rey Magically knowing where they were they would've just ended up against a wall of rocks (which she can't move despite Mary Poppining through space before).
 
Just like you said, it's a shitty script and there is not much reason to think about it.

What really surprises me how people actually defend that stuff. The mental gymnastics here ... it's almost fanatical. YOU DUN LIKE IT CUZ REY/STRONK FEMALE!

Yeah ... that's it. It must be. Sexism, racism, what-ever-ism. What else could it be? Sure not quality. I even know some who totally defend Leias space flight. Gosh. The cringe of that scene alone.

At this point to fuck up something as simple like Star Wars, needs I think a particular skill. I mean it's not deep writing and a standard heros-journey formula. You literaly can't fuck that up. Unless you want to ...
 
I wonder whether Mark Hamill actually got to read the script for Last Jedi before agreeing to act in these movies.

Crni Vuk said:
What really surprises me how people actually defend that stuff. The mental gymnastics here ... it's almost fanatical. YOU DUN LIKE IT CUZ REY/STRONK FEMALE!

Yeah ... that's it. It must be. Sexism, racism, what-ever-ism. What else could it be?
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I think it's best to try to ignore people who are this far gone to any political extreme, and simply hope that they and their opposing counterparts will keep one another fully engaged and save sane people the hassle of talking to any of them. Ham-handed politicking aside, there are apparently people who think this awful movie was well-written on its own merits. As the guy in the video you linked noted, some of the weirdest mental gymnastics performed by people in defense of this film is the stuff involving actually creating mental additions to the script to try to get it to make sense.
 
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Lanfear said:
I wonder whether Mark Hamill actually got to read the script for Last Jedi before agreeing to act in these movies.
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It's a contract anyway. I'm pretty sure they had him signed on for the whole trilogy. Besides that, based on how he looks like he's having PTSD flashbacks when discussing TLJ he was disappointed with the direction Luke's character went.
 
BigGuyCIA said:
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It's a contract anyway. I'm pretty sure they had him signed on for the whole trilogy. Besides that, based on how he looks like he's having PTSD flashbacks when discussing TLJ he was disappointed with the direction Luke's character went.
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I figured. Seems like kind of a rich scam from the actor's perspective, though, to be asked to go under contract without having any idea what the movie is going to be like.
 
Lanfear said:
I figured. Seems like kind of a rich scam from the actor's perspective, though, to be asked to go under contract without having any idea what the movie is going to be like.
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Sounds like literally all game VA since forever
 
That's true. I've seen a lot of complaints from VAs to that effect. I get it - it's an industry in which accepting a bad role can damage your prospects for future jobs, so you would expect to at least be given some kind of script, right?
 
It's especially noticable in the german dubbing of New Vegas. You can tell that the voice actors just did their lines and had no idea what the were doing or never heard the original lines. So everyone, even the legionaires, pronounce "Caesar" like "Zeesar", because apparently they did all those lines before they had any lines about the pronounciation.
 
I mean, with alll those zeroes on the check, do you really believe a c-list actor would stop to consider the artistic integrity of the project before accepting?
 
No shame in taking the job. I have nothging against Mark Hamill or any of the cast, It's not their fault the movie was so bad.
 
Walpknut said:
I mean, with alll those zeroes on the check, do you really believe a c-list actor would stop to consider the artistic integrity of the project before accepting?
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Maybe not. But he sure does look miserable as hell whenever Last Jedi comes up, so I'd guess he's at least given it some thought in hindsight.
 
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