Strength the first Fallout 4 SPECIAL video is out

Fair enough, not everything has to be 100% realistic. But there are in my opinion better ways to achieve that. I guess the atom-cult was a small wink perphaps to the old Planet of the Apes movies with the mutanted humans that worship a doomsday device of the old world. I think it would have been much better if they actually followed that idea. The doomsday device is as far as I remember stored in some kind of underground vault or something. It was never used during the war or in the past. I mean it's a doomsday device! It would have been awesome if they used an underground missile base as a town, with the nuke ICBM-nuke and it's lunchsilo as temple. It could still have a small part of the town ontop of it or something. It would also make more sense that Burke is searching for someone who can gain access to the silo which would be more guarded.
 
whirlingdervish said:
fundamentals, such as bombs that didn't explode not tending to make craters large enough for a settlement to exist inside of them, no matter how big of a nuke they were.
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lol, yeah, that. Though in this case I'm willing to overlook a little silliness. For example, a previous bomb went off there and the plane crashed in the crater, or ploughed into it, whatever. Either way, depending on circumstances, building a defensive position out of a crater could be a feasible idea, but the fundamentals I mentioned (like having room to grow shit, and fresh water sources) while making sure you don't drown or otherwise die of stupid causes need to be observed.

Crni: Yeah, that would've been neat. According to the Wikia page for the place, the cult was indeed inspired by (or is a nod to) that, Beth just aren't sophisticated enough to do a reference that isn't entirely ham-fisted. Something like Ulysses Temple would've worked really well. Hell, there are already one or two ICBM silos around the DC Wasteland, could easily have used one of those in some capacity.
 
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Orthe fact that there is an intact town with house a couple of kilometers away and they decided that it would be a better idea to build around a bomb than on actual houses.
 
Now that you talk about it, I guess another serious problem would be the sanitary instalations. I mean the people of Megaton for sure have to pee and shitt somewhere and getting rid of their garbage, particularly the kind which rots, you know animal carcasses, food and the like. Well OK maybe not the food stuff since they aparantly don't grow/hunt/trade anything and apparantly live just from air and radiation, but they have ONE cow at least!.

I just can't see that really working in a rather small crater. Can you imagine what stench it would generate already after just a couple of days?
 
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Gnarles Bronson said:
It's a little too cutesy for me. It reminds me of an old looney toons cartoon in animation and style, which doesn't really fit fallout at all imo.
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But Bethesda's vision of Fallout sees it as set in the 50's and thus the animation style fits.

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Now that you talk about it, I guess another serious problem would be the sanitary instalations. I mean the people of Megaton for sure have to pee and shitt somewhere and getting rid of their garbage, particularly the kind which rots, you know animal carcasses, food and the like. Well OK maybe not the food stuff since they aparantly don't grow/hunt/trade anything and apparantly live just from air and radiation, but they have ONE cow at least!.

I just can't see that really working in a rather small crater. Can you imagine what stench it would generate already after just a couple of days?
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I think they somehow installed toilets, there were toilets, two of them for the entire town, but how how did they get a bleeding plumber is a whole different question. I don't even know if they worked, you could drink out of them, maybe people could actually use them.
 
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They have running water in Megaton, but it goes through a rickety "purifier" that breaks down all the time.

I don't think they'd waste their oh so precious "PLEASE SAVE US FROM THE BAD WATER LIAM NESSON WITH THE JIMMY JESUS JR. MACHINE!" clean water on poo.

It would explain why the raiders don't just overtake the town even though they only have three people on guard duty though.

Even the filthy carcass-loving raiders don't want to take over Poopton.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
They have running water in Megaton, but it goes through a rickety "purifier" that breaks down all the time.

I don't think they'd waste their oh so precious "PLEASE SAVE US FROM THE BAD WATER LIAM NESSON WITH THE JIMMY JESUS JR. MACHINE!" clean water on poo.

It would explain why the raiders don't just overtake the town even though they only have three people on guard duty though.

Even the filthy carcass-loving raiders don't want to take over Poopton.
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Theoretically they could extract and purify the water from their biological waste products and drink that, just like they do on the space station.

If that were the case, the game probably undersold the importance of fixing the purifier.
 
PossibleCabbage said:
Theoretically they could extract and purify the water from their biological waste products and drink that, just like they do on the space station.

If that were the case, the game probably undersold the importance of fixing the purifier.
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Considering that Megaton's purifier got all of two seconds explanation by giving you a sidequest for getting rid of scrap metal, yeah, it's pretty undersold.
 
Wait a fucking second are they tying crafting skills to our STRENGTH attribute? Who the hell thought that was an even remotely sensible thing to do?!
 
In Fallout 4 you are actually roleplaying an Ork and crafting depends on smashing bits of metal together as hard as possible and believing it will work.
 
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In Fallout 4 you are actually roleplaying an Ork and crafting depends on smashing bits of metal together as hard as possible and believing it will work.
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"I'M GON' MAKE IT ORKY, YA GROTZ!" -Smashes a bottle, some scrape metal, electrical wires, half of a plastic globe, and a wrench together, after the dust settles, is holding a Hevy Shoota- "SEE DAT? DIS TING WILL MAKE BIG DAKKA!"
 
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TheChosen1 said:
In Fallout 4 you are actually roleplaying an Ork and crafting depends on smashing bits of metal together as hard as possible and believing it will work.
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"I'M GON' MAKE IT ORKY, YA GROTZ!" -Smashes a bottle, some scrape metal, electrical wires, half of a plastic globe, and a wrench together, after the dust settles, is holding a Hevy Shoota- "SEE DAT? DIS TING WILL MAKE BIG DAKKA!"
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Sounds about right. How else will you make an optical scope from a tin can, an alarm clock, some duct tape and a wrench?
 
To be fair crafting now works on a resource pool system rather than an item requirement system. You aren't using the tin can you are probably melting it to use the metal for crafting and the same for the glass on the clock which also fills up other resources on the pool like plastic and such.
The problem is how stats are nonsensically governing over random shit.
 
Except an alarm clock worthless if you want to make optics from the glass. You need an entire factory to produce optics that are precise enough for that. Same with the metal, some old tin won't do if you want to continue using that scope for a while, not to mention one tin can isn't enough. And yes, you'll need vast knowledge in the niche skills in calibrations of the optics, so on and so forth.
 
Well the problem there lies in how barebones the workbench they have for ALL crafting looks. It should be that to manufacture your own mods out of scrap you would need more elaborate ones and that you should be limited by the type of workbench too. And that in the barebones crafting tabe you would only end up with crappy makeshit weapons where you would still need pre fabricated stuff to even attempt to put together.

I mean, this asshole is doing on a workbench what the Gun Runners need an entire building and around a dozen People to do. Then again, this is bethesda, they already made Nuclear bombs a joke, they didn't give a shit about nukes being dangerous and important why would they give a shit about gun manufacturing? I mean they have a crank operted Laser rifle....
 
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It's pretty weird how they actually had that workbench system in Skyrim where you would need different types of plataforms to do different types of items, to make armor the plataform always had the anvil, fire pit and water tank, and so forth. Now you can just put together military grade combat armor out of nails and plastic on a garage by being strong enough....
 
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