Supposed Spoilers from /v/

Plautus

Plautus

Angry Preacher
According to this thread on v the story of the game goes like this:

The memories at the beginning of the game are fake and you are, in fact, an android who was built by the institute. Apparently, you can turn people into androids in your settlements.

I hope to God that the anons posting these are lying out their asses because if they're telling the truth, Bethesda have succeeded at writing the dumbest thing in gaming history.
 
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There was an instagram video that shows some people taking your baby from your wife as you watch from inside your cryo pod and they shoot her. So I doubt it's true.
 
I don't think being an android is bad writing, it can work just fine if that is true. It's either that or cryosleep, both of which aren't original but neither was having amnesia from a headshot in NV.
 
I certainly fucking hope so. That "twist" would be the worst thing possible that could happen to the game. I'd prefer blandly stupid (like Fallout 3) to cataclysmically stupid, like that would be.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Battlecross said:
I don't think being an android is bad writing, it can work just fine if that is true. It's either that or cryosleep, both of which aren't original but neither was having amnesia from a headshot in NV.
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Where does it say the Courier had amnesia from the wound? I can't remember it beeing mentioned even once.
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It's not totally amnesia per se, you're right. It's actually more of the "left for dead" trope overall, but the whole DLC of the Lonesome Road comes off like amnesia since this super important event doesn't exist to the Courier.
 
Dialogue options in Lonesome Road were varied enough to let you decide whether the Courier remembered or didn't remember. Or did remember and is denying it.

Sawyer basically confirmed it wasn't supposed to be amnesia unless the player wanted it to be for their Courier, anyway.
 
GlowHound said:
Dialogue options in Lonesome Road were varied enough to let you decide whether the Courier remembered or didn't remember. Or did remember and is denying it.

Sawyer basically confirmed it wasn't supposed to be amnesia unless the player wanted it to be for their Courier, anyway.
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I know its almost like Obsidian give a damn about roleplaying instead of playing "generic special military Jesus man/women" which is troupe that has been done to freaking death.
 
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The only real problem with the "you were actually an android all along and those memories are fake" as a storyline is that it's incredibly obvious so it doesn't really work as a twist. I mean, anybody who played Fallout 3, has watched an Alien movie, and heard that Fallout 4 will feature the Institute that you briefly interacted with in the android quest in Fo3 guessed it right away.

Other than that it will completely lack any sort of narrative punch because everybody's going to see it coming, it's fine.
 
Battlecross said:
I don't think being an android is bad writing, it can work just fine if that is true. It's either that or cryosleep, both of which aren't original but neither was having amnesia from a headshot in NV.
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I wouldn't mind to be honest. It's more of a problem with BGS coming up with some pretty stupid twist bullshit for example or the fact that doing hardcore mode wouldn't really make sense with having dehydration and hunger (doesn't matter since hardcore mode doesn't exist anyways) or that hyper-realistic android don't really fit the artstyle of Fallout.
 
phipboy said:
Battlecross said:
I don't think being an android is bad writing, it can work just fine if that is true. It's either that or cryosleep, both of which aren't original but neither was having amnesia from a headshot in NV.
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I wouldn't mind to be honest. It's more of a problem with BGS coming up with some pretty stupid twist bullshit for example or the fact that doing hardcore mode wouldn't really make sense with having dehydration and hunger (doesn't matter since hardcore mode doesn't exist anyways) or that hyper-realistic android don't really fit the artstyle of Fallout.
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But what if you are programmed to feel hunger and dehydration? Now this is a real twist for the main of Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4.
 
Battlecross said:
Crni Vuk said:
Battlecross said:
I don't think being an android is bad writing, it can work just fine if that is true. It's either that or cryosleep, both of which aren't original but neither was having amnesia from a headshot in NV.
Click to expand...

Where does it say the Courier had amnesia from the wound? I can't remember it beeing mentioned even once.
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It's not totally amnesia per se, you're right. It's actually more of the "left for dead" trope overall, but the whole DLC of the Lonesome Road comes off like amnesia since this super important event doesn't exist to the Courier.
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I got the impression that what happened at the Divide was less that the Courier didn't know that it happened, but that it happened while the Courier wasn't there and thus had no way of knowing they caused it to happen. The Divide was just a location visited by the Courier a fair amount in their line of work before it went nuclear. They were probably distressed at the news, but moved on with their life.
 
I keep thinking of that vid that got posted here a while back. It was something like some guy's top 10 reasons Fallout New Vegas was bad or something, and cited that he didn't know what was going on in OWB after admitting he SKIPPED THROUGH ALL THE DIALOGUE.

It's so very rare that I so desperately desire to shake some sense into someone.
 
"The Courier is not an amnesiac. Questions about the NCR, Legion, local goings on, etc. are present so the player does not stumble around without a clue. We can't assume any given player is familiar with these factions." -- J.E. Sawyer

The Courier was merely unaware that his/her frequent deliveries to the Divide gave rise to a community there, and was equally unaware he/she was the catalyst of its destruction. It's about the consequences of seemingly insignificant, trivial actions--i.e. delivering a package--and the ripple effect they can have if one is too careless.
 
You could always assume anyway that the courier never ventured that far in to this area, so all he knew about Legion/NCR/Vegas could have been just gossip.

It works perfectly, particularly if you play the game a second or third time because you could decide to roleplay someone who knows the area and it's factions well enough to interact with them.

The dialog in the game at least allows you that much. And that is what we call quality writing.
 
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