The Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Kalessin, May 4, 2006.

  1. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

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    Oct 22, 2007
    In general, depending on where you live, you have four options:

    1. Sell to a local gun store. This is the safest and most convenient, but will provide the least compensation. Whatever the gun is worth on the used markets, you can subtract somewhere between $50-$150 less. This is because the gun shop needs to sell it at the used value, so overhead and profit come out on your end.
    2. Put on consignment at the local gun store. The margins are a little better than above. You set the price, the gun shop adds their margin on top, and when it sells, you get what you get.
    3. Online brokerages, like Armslist / GunsAmerica. This is essentially the eBay model. Don't forget to specify how transfer costs and shipping are to be paid, otherwise you can end up eating a fair amount of money. This has the usual risks associated with online transactions. Most of us use postal money orders to make payment, that way if things go south, you might have the postal IG on your side. Law Enforcement generally looks at these things as civil issues, which can be frustrating if you don't get what you expect.
    4. Private sale (Face-to-face transaction). This is how I typically buy and sell. Laws vary from state to state. The main caution of this type of transaction is that you can be sure of two things:
      a.) Someone has a bunch of cash -and-
      b.) Someone has a gun.
      I use local forums with a feedback function. This does not minimize the risk much, but it does provide a social enforcement component and a minor degree of vetting.
     
  2. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
  3. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006
    Johnny gives some great advice. I'll add that gunbroker.com is awesome - but would not use it as a first time seller.

    My advice:

    1. Know what you have and what it's value is.

    2. Know your local laws regarding firearm ownership and sales. As in, you can go to jail if you fuck this up.

    3. Gun Shows - don't sell to the guys at the table, sell to the folks in the crowd. Wear a sign on your person or the gun telling what it is and what you want for it. Carry it around the show and see what happens.

    4. In most states, you are only obligated to ask a buyer if he is a resident of the state you are selling in (do not sell guns out of the state you live in, except through a licensed ffl holder).

    5. Post pics of your guns here and we will help you price them as to fair market value and/or wholesale value.

    6. If I tell you your gun is a pile of junk, but I feel bad and will send you $50 for it - follow my advice and don't listen to anybody else...
     
  4. Evil Neville

    Evil Neville First time out of the vault

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    Oct 2, 2012
    Češka Zbrojovka, the legend among 9mms. Love that gun.
     
  5. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006
    It's a piece of crap, but I feel bad for you, so I will send you $50 for it...
     
  6. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    Thanks Johnny and DB, that's exactly the kind of general advice I was looking for (except for the part about the $50).

    Despite voting for Obama, Wisconsin remains a gun-friendly state. In fact we've loosened our laws lately as I understand it, but I'll do a thorough check to make sure I get everything right.
     
  7. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
    In the process of piecing out my first AR (Did I pick a great time to buy a scary black 'assault rifle' or what?).

    Currently trying to find somewhere that actually has BCM or Spike's lowers in stock.
     
  8. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

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    Oct 22, 2007
    Gun Gallery in Jacksonville has a bunch of BCM gear in stock. It was my old shop, and the best place for ARs in all of Florida. Ask for Neil or Martin, and tell them a random guy on the internet called 'JohnnyEgo' sent you.
     
  9. Yoshi525

    Yoshi525 Vault Senior Citizen
    Orderite

    Dec 10, 2006
    *Drools*

    DB and Johnny, neither of you gentlemen would enjoy life in the gun-tight UK :cry: Reading (and seeing) your posts here makes me really want to move to a more firearm-liberal nation.

    I come from a pretty gun-centric family, my step dad especially likes his firing pieces and used to shoot/hunt with various clubs. That was before my time though, in recent years he's moved to specialise in what he truly loves: antique firearms.

    Being dragged up by a chap with a firearms certificate and black powder licence (and living in a rural area) has allowed me to shoot more than probably 90% of British lads my age. Aside from 12/16/20 gauge shotguns though, the most modern gun i've had frequent access to is a Civil War 1853 Enfield :lol:

    Acquiring the sort of high-power modern rifles on display in this thread is virtually impossible over here, unless your occupation specifically requires it or you're rich, well connected, and/or a long standing member of a club.

    Still, going small game hunting with my mates and their 12 gauges is something I appreciate, given how few of my generation have ever shot anything more potent than an air rifle :wink:
     
  10. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006
    I'm sure I'd be quite jealous of the many antique firearms you've gotten to handle and shoot.

    For me, it's mostly been reproductions of the really interesting firearms.

    Of course, there are some really well made replicas coming out of Italy with Pedersoli, Uberti, and to a lesser extent, Pietta. Especially in Cowboy Action styles.
     
  11. WillisPDunlevey

    WillisPDunlevey Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 2, 2010
    I will post pix tonight!
    On the upside, I have 60x 20rd magazines in the mail to me. 56 of them are the aluminum alloy mags and 4 are the earlier steel mags.

    Since the stocks for this type of rifle switch out very easily, I am going to get an aluminum tacticool handguard so I can add a front grip (so my wife can hold it up long enough to shoot it). I may get an ACE folding stock as well.


    notice the german label on the stock.


    Proof its mine for Dammitboy
     
  12. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
    CMMG Complete Lower
    BCM 16" Mid-Length Upper
    BCM Auto BCG
    BCM Charging Handle
    Magpul Mid-Length Handguard (I know, I know)
    UTG 4/16 Rear Sight

    Just a hair over $990 after shipping on the upper/bcg/ch, and tax/background check on the lower.

    Not bad for building in the middle of a buying frenzy. Certainly kicked the shit out of every local gun store in the bay area as far as price vs quality goes.

    Now to play the waiting game while I wait for this shit to ship, and the ludicrous 3 business day wait to pick up the lower (Really Florida, a waiting period for a fucking long gun?).

    @Johnny

    Thanks for the tip. I was <---> THIS close to making that 9 hour round trip to Jacksonville, but after calling ~30 stores, I found someone with *1* lower left in stock. I'll have to hit them up for my next build if all the decent lowers are still on backorder 6 months from now.
     
  13. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006
    How much did you pay for it? I love it.

    It is heresy to bubba that rifle up with aftermarket knick knacks dude!
     
  14. WillisPDunlevey

    WillisPDunlevey Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 2, 2010
    $600

    The handguard and stock can be replaced in 30 seconds or less... so its not total heresy. Im just happy when my wife is into one of my guns.

    Next up... a Spencer.
     
  15. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    Not exactly a common choice. What drew you to it?
     
  16. WillisPDunlevey

    WillisPDunlevey Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 2, 2010
    My Spencer has been in my family since the civil war, I want to get a reproduction that I can shoot. .56 caliber rimfire cartridges are hard to find, so even if I wanted to shoot my spencer, it would be very expensive. I would like one in .50 AE or some other production caliber.
     
  17. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006
    It's a piece of crap, but I feel sorry for you, so I'll give you $50 for it.

    No, seriously - sell me this rifle. $750?
     
  18. WillisPDunlevey

    WillisPDunlevey Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 2, 2010
    hahahah dealer on a PTR is $900ish. NO way I would sell this for less, it has an original barrel. The guy I got it from has an HK91 (preban) and a HK93... i might get them from him as well in the next year or so.
     
  19. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Carbon Dated and Proud

    Feb 23, 2006
    $800 dollars - seriously, sell me this rifle.
     
  20. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    DammitBoy is in love. :)