THESURVIVOR2299.com likely isn't a Fallout 4 teaser website

Tagaziel said:
Ignoring the PC market due to some ignorant notion that "publishers prefer consoles" is intellectually dishonest.
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I never ignored the PC market, I just pointed out that most big publishers first and fore most develop for consoles. There is nothing dishonest about it, just what is and should be apparent to anyone who followed the market for the past decade.

inb4 you rage: I never owned a console, I don't give a shit about consoles, I don't want my PC game developed with console crowd in mind, getting "dumbed down" and or made as cheap ports. I'd rather the big developers recognize the power of PC and develop for it. But that not what is happening... (or rather what happened)

So to me your post is just whine/rage about what should be as opposed to what is and in particular that FO:NV was spinoff title, that despite our opinion at NMA the console crowd didn't liked as much and that Beth will continue to develop FO4 for the same target audience they developed FO3, Skyrim and oblivion.


Tagaziel said:
Furthermore, the success of classic RPGs on Kickstarters is food for thought for publishers.
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:lol:

The success of classic RPGs is not because some change in casual audience preferences(learn from other form of entertainment), it is still the same niche market only now digital distribution and alternative funding(kickstarter) made it possible to monetize on it. Hopefully, it will reopen the market for mid-size publishers which became very inactive in the last decade and develop more content we would like(where full VO and the like are not a requirement), but as for big publishers we are still nothing but a blip on the target audience map, nothing changed.
 
/radio/hanscom-msg-52862c3e7a30e.mp3 (also seen on 15-11-1013 17:20)
 
fred2 said:
I never ignored the PC market, I just pointed out that most big publishers first and fore most develop for consoles. There is nothing dishonest about it, just what is and should be apparent to anyone who followed the market for the past decade.

inb4 you rage: I never owned a console, I don't give a shit about consoles, I don't want my PC game developed with console crowd in mind, getting "dumbed down" and or made as cheap ports. I'd rather the big developers recognize the power of PC and develop for it. But that not what is happening... (or rather what happened)

So to me your post is just whine/rage about what should be as opposed to what is and in particular that FO:NV was spinoff title, that despite our opinion at NMA the console crowd didn't liked as much and that Beth will continue to develop FO4 for the same target audience they developed FO3, Skyrim and oblivion.
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If the "console crowd" didn't like FNV, then it should be a matter of simply calling up the relevant statistics and proving your point. But so far, your point has been defeated time and time again.

What is apparent is that PC is still a very strong position on the market and continues to be a viable market. Cheap console ports are mostly a thing of the past and most multiplatform releases function perfectly no matter the platform.

If anyone actually followed the market, they'd know that.
The success of classic RPGs is not because some change in casual audience preferences(learn from other form of entertainment), it is still the same niche market only now digital distribution and alternative funding(kickstarter) made it possible to monetize on it. Hopefully, it will reopen the market for mid-size publishers which became very inactive in the last decade and develop more content we would like(where full VO and the like are not a requirement), but as for big publishers we are still nothing but a blip on the target audience map, nothing changed.
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And your in depth analysis of the market is based on what exactly?
 
Tagaziel said:
If the "console crowd" didn't like FNV, then it should be a matter of simply calling up the relevant statistics and proving your point.
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Let see, on top of addressing the initial sale numbers which was brought before as indication of the games financial success, I provided two links for stats that include units sold for both games, for both consoles up to 2012. I also touch on why such numbers can be unreliable, so I complemented it with the general trend of AAA titles in the past decade(which we all familiar with, you probably ranted about it many times) which is next the best thing without annual revenue numbers(they are not stupid they go where they think the money is) Also to make my post more informative I noted couple of common thing which we are all familiar with and might have been a contributing factor to this trend.

Tagaziel said:
But so far, your point has been defeated time and time again.
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Interesting, before your post, I only seen initial sales stats(which I addressed). Surely you didn't provide any relevant statistics, or any explanation/reason to back up what you said. Honestly, I doubt that you even remember what the discussion is about and just falling back on the good ol' argument about the PC market, that we all heard before, which is what I was so cautious about at the start of this discussion.
 
Hoax? this doesn't seem very complex and IMO 360 days is too long time for a PR campaign to be effective.
 
Nark said:
http://vaultofthefuture.com/

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Doesn't appear to be Bethesda/Zenimax owned... and the server is hosted out of Ontario, Canada which would be unusual. Also they've written it "V-TECH" but Vault-Tec is never spelled with an H. Vault-tec also probably wouldn't produce TVs. Link to the Facebook page also shows it to be very 'fan-like' with George Takei type posts.
 
fred2 said:
Let see, on top of addressing the initial sale numbers which was brought before as indication of the games financial success, I provided two links for stats that include units sold for both games, for both consoles up to 2012. I also touch on why such numbers can be unreliable, so I complemented it with the general trend of AAA titles in the past decade(which we all familiar with, you probably ranted about it many times) which is next the best thing without annual revenue numbers(they are not stupid they go where they think the money is) Also to make my post more informative I noted couple of common thing which we are all familiar with and might have been a contributing factor to this trend.
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You posted two links to lists of best selling games on two consoles and then went on to ramble about some general trend of AAA titles you cannot corroborate with any kind of source except for your own personal feelings.

I.e. you haven't proposed anything of substance. Don't present your opinions as facts.

Interesting, before your post, I only seen initial sales stats(which I addressed). Surely you didn't provide any relevant statistics, or any explanation/reason to back up what you said. Honestly, I doubt that you even remember what the discussion is about and just falling back on the good ol' argument about the PC market, that we all heard before, which is what I was so cautious about at the start of this discussion.
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Your original claim (which you failed to substantiate) was that New Vegas wasn't nearly as successful as Fallout 3 and that gamers at large were generally dissatisfied with it (you haven't proven this point either).

Stop moving the goal posts and cherry picking facts. Start proving your point.
 
So currently the page says that nuclear winter is coming in about four days.
So if this really is a teaser for Fallout 4, does it mean there's suddenly a nuclear winter in Fallout?
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Oh, and there's a german site collecting all the info so far.
http://fallout-4.de
Notice any familiar artwork?
 
Hassknecht said:
So currently the page says that nuclear winter is coming in about four days.
So if this really is a teaser for Fallout 4, does it mean there's suddenly a nuclear winter in Fallout?
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Guessing it ties into the Morse code messages some how... a lot of them appear to be pre-war broadcasts from the day the bombs hit. Maybe Fallout 4 takes place soon after?

It could also just be a play on the phrase, "Winter is coming" from Game of Thrones, that and the fact it's winter in North America.
 
I think the phrase cropped up there once before, too. Past factual poo-pooing aside, I doubt anyone's really going to try and sell us a localized nuclear winter with a straight face, even in the world of SCIENCE!. I'm hoping for Korindabar's take on things. If not, there could be snowy conditions in-game and the phrase "nuclear winter" would just be a little bit of friendly atomic branding. Boston is further north than any Fallout setting to date and they do see some rough winters by American standards, and the cynic in me says that it would be a prime opportunity for them to recycle some of the arctic work and concepts from Skyrim and Operation: Anchorage. Winterized T-51b and polar yao-guai, anyone?

Not betting on it (there are already enough "Elder Scrolls With Guns" comparisons without them cribbing major setting elements), but it's food for thought, anyway.
 
I guess it could just be a normal winter... I mean. They get winter. Maybe the game takes place in winter?

I bet all those NCR patrols wish they could be in Fallout 4.
 
kotaku.com isn't reporting these rumors because they think it's all a big, well-engineered fake. I really hope they're wrong.
 
George32027 said:
kotaku.com isn't reporting these rumors because they think it's all a big, well-engineered fake. I really hope they're wrong.
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This is ominous, if true. Usually such big outlets will get a wink from the PR department and rarely would pass an opportunity to report something like that. But then again look at our thread title, who knows maybe we got guys here who are in the know!

Anyway, I'd personally be very surprised if this turned to be a fake(i.e. not fallout4 or any other title), if so its a real quality staged fake, that many PR companies could learn from.


korindabar said:
Hassknecht said:
So currently the page says that nuclear winter is coming in about four days.
So if this really is a teaser for Fallout 4, does it mean there's suddenly a nuclear winter in Fallout?
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Guessing it ties into the Morse code messages some how... a lot of them appear to be pre-war broadcasts from the day the bombs hit. Maybe Fallout 4 takes place soon after?
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It possible that its Survivor number 2299, but I am liking the 2299 as the year.(iirc we even have a more specific one) as for nuclear winter, maybe its just on old broadcast, or a hint that the game will hit this winter?
 
2299 is probaly the year that the game will take place and our vault is either 137 (which I doubt) or 119 according to this:

8:30PM - Front page has new morse code:
CQ CQ CQ BST IS GONE II BST IS GONE N HPE FREQ 3450 RT GB AMERICA
“Calling all stations, calling all stations, calling all stations. Boston is gone, I repeat, Boston is gone. No Hope. Frequency 3450 Return Transmission. God Bless America.”

7:32PM - IRC user threedog_ points out the favicon, when opened as a text file, reads “V119-QR”. This may stand for Vault 119-Quabbin Resevoir.
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Source: https://docs.google.com/document/d/...AZZiM0Rh-odwWCDc3VEMVE/preview?pli=1&sle=true

This site have all information (all the morses,etc) on the survivor thing since day one.
 
Fake or not, the publicity haven't stopped the morse code updates.

Code: 
http://thesurvivor2299.com/radio/Prov-5296576f14c63.mp3
 
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