Torment: Tides of Numenera is out

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by CerberusGate, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Me too, Morte was quite entertaining all the time he opens his foul mouth and that scottish tifling has outstanding VO. Not to mention Ravel's riddens.
     
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  2. Supreme Shah Ismail

    Supreme Shah Ismail Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Sep 17, 2016
    I thought out of all the more recent RPG's of the isometric nature Wasteland 2 had the best gameplay. It may not be as well written as Fallout 1/2 but whats there is more or less engaging enough. (Though it can feel over bloated at times but hardly hard to read unlike Torment) I got the gist of the story and the world. A common trend for me seems to be rather lack luster companions/characters in all recent RPG's. Tyranny had helpful in dialogue lore explanations and was more to the point. Im sorry but I don't feel a game can stand on its own by dialogue simply and I feel wasteland 2/tyranny/PoE delivered on the gameplay department. RPG's are not always about making choices in dialogue, the core game has to be engaging too.

    But yeah I do completely agree with the eye roll worthy amount of bloated dialogue. Editors and play testers who arent rabid fanboys are welcome.
     
  3. FearMonkey

    FearMonkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 12, 2011
    The same was true of Planescape: Torment. You couldn't change the Nameless One's portrait. And you were forced to play as a male character all the time. You can play as a female character in this one and some quests change depending on the gender you choose.

    They used the Pillars of Eternity engine for T:ToN.
     
  4. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    ...The thing is, Nameless One was still someone. He shows actual emotion and some character. Tides of Numenera just gives you a choice between Nate and Nora, basically, if you grasp what I meaning.
     
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  5. FearMonkey

    FearMonkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 12, 2011
    I don't actually. Only time I ever heard the Nameless One speak he would say "Updated My Journal" or "I'm Gone" in a monotone voice. :p

    Other than that, you can read emotion in text in both games. There's a lot of range in the different replies to questions given to The Last Castoff in T:ToN. The writing is excellent in this regard.
     
  6. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Jul 30, 2009
    It's the same engine (Unity).
     
  7. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Voice acting is a painful spot and a double-edged sword in CRPGs.

    You can? Congrats then. I couldn't, through sheer amount of questions and "can I offer you help?"s writers have to write since it's a new world player has no idea about. Maybe you can answer what kind of personality last castoff has or have you developed during dialogs without looking at the affinity screen?

    And about gender thing, yeah....


    Here the game just falls flat on it's face
     
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  8. FearMonkey

    FearMonkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 12, 2011
    I don't know what that stuff you posted about the PnP game regarding gender in their character art has to do with what I said about the computer game. There are some quests that change in Torment: Tides of Numenera depending on the gender you choose. For example, in the Cliff's Edge area, if you're a male Castoff, then you get the quest "Wayward Son" where you help one of the male NPCs in the area. If you play a female Castoff, you get a different quest called "Wayward Daughter" where you help one of the female NPCs in the area. That's an additional level of C&C in T:ToN that wasn't present in PS:T.

    And so far, no chainmail bikinis. :p

    EDIT: Oh, and there's a utility that will let you change your character portrait now: You just can't do it in-game.

    https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?t=17154
     
  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Only, if you never played Jagged Alliance 1 and 2.
     
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  10. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Referred to some previous talk about gender choosing and how well it represents original P&P. Just more to the table about game fuckups. Better if they cut selector screen instead of other stretch goals.
    Modding doesn't matter, you can write same excuses for bethesda games.
     
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  11. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    At this point portraits are purely cosmetic, can you actually change the appearance of the main character?
     
  12. FearMonkey

    FearMonkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 12, 2011
    Not the 3D model, no. Just like in Planescape: Torment, the character model stays the same for everyone.
     
  13. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Than I would consider that a bigger issue than just the portraits.
     
  14. Supreme Shah Ismail

    Supreme Shah Ismail Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Sep 17, 2016
    Which I admittedly haven't :D
     
  15. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    No one posted this gem yet? Well...
     
  16. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    It's a bit difficult to listen to that voice ...

    Miiiisssttttrrrrr Chiiiiiiisss Avaaaaalooneeeee.
     
  17. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    He's not an english native speaker, though.
     
  18. valcik

    valcik So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Dec 20, 2008
    I'm not sure whether forcing your target audience to role-play a gay teenager is the smartest idea.. One would have assumed that TToN backers are 30+ old dudes, still remembering a game released 20 years ago, right? (The Last Castoff reminds me of young Zorg, villain from The Fifth Element flick. The Nameless One was a huge tatooed rotten corpse, pretty badass character at least.)
     
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  19. mrchaos

    mrchaos Super Orc

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    Nov 14, 2015
    So, going back to talking about the game instead of talking about people complaining about said game.

    How about favourite characters? Mine where Rhin and that one NPC that talked about reproduction.

    My favourite place in the game has the bloom. Such a wierd fascinating place.
     
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  20. Hellion

    Hellion Antediluvian Lurker

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    Jun 20, 2003
    Erritis and especially Rhin are probably the only companion NPCs that weren't typical Biowarian stereotypes. Other than that, I was intrigued by The Genocide, that group of 5 psychics that hang out at Totally-Not-The-Smoldering-Corpse-Bar, and, for some reason, that injured Stichus that you can either rescue or deliver to the corrupted authorities. Would have loved to have some or all of these as companions.

    As for favorite place, naturally the Bloom. I honestly wouldn't mind at all if the entire game took place there.
     
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