Total Recall remake

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by BFox17, May 12, 2012.

  1. BFox17

    BFox17 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Apr 20, 2012
    In response to the upcoming remake of the classic movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, I thought I'd open a thread to discuss it :)
    Have you ever seen the original? Did you like the original? If so, what are your thoughts on a remake? Do you think that will be any good?
     
  2. mobucks

    mobucks As a goof Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    Not sure. We know how the first ended. How will this movie suprise me? Hot chicks in it though.
     
  3. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    The first movie was great entertainment but I always felt that the actual plot was a bit...plot hole-ish...

    I'm not looking forward at the remake at all. The eighties had a certain style for action movies that has gone completely lost.
     
  4. Muff

    Muff Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    May 5, 2006
    Isn't the new one supposed to be closer to the book or am I mixing that up with something else?
     
  5. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Did you see that "Miami Vice" movie they made?
    My god, what a total misfire that was... The original concept, attitude, content, character, vibe is over *heeere*, while the remake was way, way over *theeere*
    Also, in the 80s you could get away with brutality that in todays cinema, with todays approach to realism, would seem totally over the top (Miami Vice and John Rambo are excellent examples of the failure of trying to translate 80s butchyness to newer movies)

    As a whole, the idea of remakes, for any reason, seems rather childish to me. "We can make it better", a movie is a piece of art. Who goes around re-making old paintings? Sure Guernica could be remade, with "more realism!", "less cubism!", but we all know that it would be total bullshit to do so.
    Let movies be unremade :(
     
  6. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    Didn't see it, but what you describe is exactly what I heard.

    It's not just that, back then action movies knew how much they had to take themselves seriously. Commando is one of my favourite action movies ever and it's an absolute riot, you could feel how much fun the actors had while filming it. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that a movie like that can be made today.

    Obligatory Commando clip.

    Incidentally Commando will also have a remake that, reportedly, will have a more realistic approach. Another movie I won't watch.

    I don't think that nowadays they remake old stuff because they think they can make it better but simply because they are running out of ideas. :|
     
  7. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Very good point, and the clip examplifies it exactly. That dark gallows humor is something that is important in keeping all this excessive violence together.
    What would that scene be, without the humor, and with more realism? It would only turn "our hero" into a despicable sadist with no redeeming features - a sensation I felt a lot watching "Miami Vice"
     
  8. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2004
    I just have one thing to say to Hollywood: Be original, and please stop making remakes because you know it's almost assured to make money instead of risking in producing new, innovative and original films.

    Who is producing this sequel now? MDM Studios? (MDM standing for Metric Driven Movies)
     
  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Or because they do it already for the last 80 years. I mean what do you think how many of the "awesome" movies in the 80s have been actually a remake from the movies people saw in the 20s and 50/60s. There are quite some.

    Same with songs. Now that I am searching again for many of the old songs from the 80s I slowly realize how many of them have been actually a "copy" from the songs made in the 50s and 60s just this time as rock version or what ever.

    A remake can be "good". But it needs time that people forget about it.

    Also it turns out the expandebles have been a remake from The Scorpion force.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqT2Eyba-fw&feature=endscreen[/youtube]

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdsbaZrjUig&feature=relmfu[/youtube]

    Oh if only ...
     
  10. BFox17

    BFox17 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Apr 20, 2012
    Erm I'd just like to point out that Total Recall wasn't from the 1980's, but from the year 1990...

    The plot is most probably going to be different though, Mars isn't even going to be featured in the remake. Hence, the crux of the movie will most likely differ from the original.
     
  11. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    Yeah, because the style of a decade ends precisely the on January 1st of the next decade. Come ooon.

    Maybe I'm just naive but I don't think they were doing those only because they were running out of ideas.
     
  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    of course not and I am sure they are not doing it today either all the time because they run out of ideas. I have this crazy idea that some people really think it would be great to tell some old story again but in new ways. Its not just black and white. Even though I do agree we would do better if there would be "less" prequels, sequels, remakes here and there.

    I am just saying many of the movies we enjoy today as "classics" have been using many old movies as inspiration.

    Or the way of story telling. I mean take Star Wars. One of the most successful movies ever. Is the concept they have there really that new after all? You have a typical "fairy tale" here. A fantasy setting. Just in space. Knights, swords, yeah magic even its all there. Evil vs God, father vs son. The story inside of Star Wars is nothing new, neither is the concept unknown. But its not really that important if the concept is old or new. It depends what you do with it and if the way you do it is "good". And that is the difficult part.

    People would be surprised for example how close actually the matrix is to an old movie called Dark City. Its not a direct "copy" of course but the core and message is pretty similar. Hell so much that even the "artistical" side of it is extremely similar both movies have a very dark and gritty feel with the world which is almost surreal. And both characters share many similar traits.
     
  13. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    The Matrix si very similar to a lot of movies, the Matrix si almost completely devoid of actual creativity it's pretty sad they let the same guys that made them "adapt" V for Vendetta.
     
  14. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Sep 14, 2009
    Am I the only one who thought Total Recall was cheesy crap. A remake of cheesy crap, is cheesy crap with extra cheese. :roll:
     
  15. Sub-Human

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    May 31, 2011
    It was sort of crap, I suppose. I still do remember that lady's head exploding though from back when I was a kid, it felt really weird for me.

    Nevertheless, 2 hours of cheesy action can give you a headache, especially considering a movie like Predator, from a similar era of films, gives far more fun (especially with its one liners).
     
  16. alec

    alec White heterosexual male Orderite

    May 21, 2003
    Dude. The first Matrix movie is brilliant. It's the sequels that sucked ass.
     
  17. Guiltyofbeingtrite

    Guiltyofbeingtrite Vault Dweller

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    Oct 13, 2008
    I love Total Recall, it's 80s/90s action at it's finest and it captures the Philip K Dick mood pretty well, I think.

    They really don't make many action movies like it anymore, this scene is perfect:

    http://youtu.be/5KtHhIePpZg
     
  18. plaidchuck

    plaidchuck It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 4, 2012
    lol so Hollywood is so out of ideas that it is now remaking crappy Arnold movies? Don't get me wrong I'm sure the book was a great piece of sci-fi but come ooon.

    I do agree though that there's nothing wrong with taking influences and different lore to make something where the end result seems new and fresh (i.e. star wars and the matrix) but all of these remakes are just ridiculous.
     
  19. Stanislao Moulinsky

    Stanislao Moulinsky Vault Fossil

    Jul 16, 2009
    Ultra violence, light my way. :)

    The diifference with the same scene in the remake is jarring.

    Another weird thing in a lot of action movies in the last 15 years or so is how much character development they shoehorn in, with subplots, flashback and the like. Which very often in the end only slows down the movie and makes it longer, and is useless since the character still end up being unlikable bidimensional cardboard cutout.
     
  20. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Sandman oTO Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Am I the only one that hated Commando? Yeah the remakes are starting to drive me insane, but this one looks like it will be a little different. Staying closer to the book may be a good idea this time around.