Dr Fallout
Centurion
Interestingly enough, that vote was not democratic.
Trump is winning
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DarkCorp
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if Trump was the 'logical', conclusion to republicans, there would not be a split in the party like there is now. Both parties are fractured.
Bernie is extreme left. The democrats are just as split now because the super hippies and crazies that Bernie brought out of the woodwork.
Stalin is, duh, Stalinism, AKA super commie dictatorship.
Bernie is extreme left. The democrats are just as split now because the super hippies and crazies that Bernie brought out of the woodwork.
Stalin is, duh, Stalinism, AKA super commie dictatorship.
He is the logical conclusion of the constant pandering to the nutjobs on the far right. The whole birther-thing, the Tea Party and so on, the GOP spiraled down into madness while the moderates were just watching because they liked how the crazies got the attention and could block Obama. Now they realize that they're there to stay, and the moderates can't get rid of them anymore.
Ragemage
Wept for Zion
Yeah about that one, Hillary actually started the Birther Movement back in 2008.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/7-news-stories-2008-prove-hillary-started-obama-birtherism/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/
It doesn't matter who started it*, they still took it and ran with it. And now all the crazy fueled by years and years of Fox News and Alex Jones has culminated in Trump. Bon appetit.
*It is hilarious to see, though, how Clinton now tries to blame the GOP for that when she was actively doing the same shit earlier. Well, Clinton's gonna clinton and delete some memories...
*It is hilarious to see, though, how Clinton now tries to blame the GOP for that when she was actively doing the same shit earlier. Well, Clinton's gonna clinton and delete some memories...
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
The tea party stuff was rather a recent thing, mostly kicked into effect by Obama, a democrat controlled house and senate, ACA, etc. As many here have even pointed out, the republican party was not always this extreme.
The republican field of candidates, at least in the initial stages, was HYUGE. We had a great many moderates, my choice Fiorina, among them. Everyone wrote off Trump and indeed, his bombastic style garnered him very little friends.
However, on the other side, the field was far smaller and right from the start, you could tell it was going to be Hillary or Sanders, both powered by SJWs of corresponding flavors. One was all about girl power and experience and the other, a free shit philosophy.
Why do you think Bernie is trying so hard to get his voters to go Hillary? It is because he realized his pandering to the 'free shit' crowd, while good for him, effectively split what was before, a unified democratic party. People who, for YEARS, were too fucking lazy to vote, all of a sudden surged because , who doesn't want free shit. Now that Hillary is the nominee, he realized that his soap boxing just sent all those dem votes straight to Jill Stein, weakening the dem vote.
Alex Jones is only repub in the fact he is conspiracy theory based, hates big government, and likes guns.
It was clear from the start that SJWs, who used a similar tactic of, ' it is so cool and hip to vote democrat', for Obamas campaign, would be at the forefront of this battle for Bernie and Hillary. I mean you have all sorts of pandering, from pro-criminal policies, pro-illegal immigration, pro-gun grabbing (YES, trying to BAN certain rifles cause they LOOK militaristic is fucking gun grabbing), pro-hippy, pro-extreme green, pro-BLM, pro-weakening america by playing 'fair', I could go on and on. The enormous success of this kind of 'universal pandering phenomenon', was not lost on the right.
Republicans on the other hand, have never been a favorite of the young, hipster, and internet based crowd. They pander as well, but on a far smaller scale, focused on gun rights, smaller government, and a pro-America stance on global politics and pro-religion as a general rule. They could have but never really included much more fringe elements that had bits of republican sympathies.
So while the republican party had a huge pool of candidates and was beginning to fracture, the dems were united in regards to their usual, 'universal pandering' and much smaller candidate pool. Being an American and listening to the radio daily, it was clear the republicans were losing miserably because of the infighting and the lack of universal pandering. It was at the point, when it looked like Bernie might win, Trump started gaining momentum. This momentum, was due heavily, to Trump adopting Bernies pandering policy.
The republican field of candidates, at least in the initial stages, was HYUGE. We had a great many moderates, my choice Fiorina, among them. Everyone wrote off Trump and indeed, his bombastic style garnered him very little friends.
However, on the other side, the field was far smaller and right from the start, you could tell it was going to be Hillary or Sanders, both powered by SJWs of corresponding flavors. One was all about girl power and experience and the other, a free shit philosophy.
Why do you think Bernie is trying so hard to get his voters to go Hillary? It is because he realized his pandering to the 'free shit' crowd, while good for him, effectively split what was before, a unified democratic party. People who, for YEARS, were too fucking lazy to vote, all of a sudden surged because , who doesn't want free shit. Now that Hillary is the nominee, he realized that his soap boxing just sent all those dem votes straight to Jill Stein, weakening the dem vote.
Alex Jones is only repub in the fact he is conspiracy theory based, hates big government, and likes guns.
It was clear from the start that SJWs, who used a similar tactic of, ' it is so cool and hip to vote democrat', for Obamas campaign, would be at the forefront of this battle for Bernie and Hillary. I mean you have all sorts of pandering, from pro-criminal policies, pro-illegal immigration, pro-gun grabbing (YES, trying to BAN certain rifles cause they LOOK militaristic is fucking gun grabbing), pro-hippy, pro-extreme green, pro-BLM, pro-weakening america by playing 'fair', I could go on and on. The enormous success of this kind of 'universal pandering phenomenon', was not lost on the right.
Republicans on the other hand, have never been a favorite of the young, hipster, and internet based crowd. They pander as well, but on a far smaller scale, focused on gun rights, smaller government, and a pro-America stance on global politics and pro-religion as a general rule. They could have but never really included much more fringe elements that had bits of republican sympathies.
So while the republican party had a huge pool of candidates and was beginning to fracture, the dems were united in regards to their usual, 'universal pandering' and much smaller candidate pool. Being an American and listening to the radio daily, it was clear the republicans were losing miserably because of the infighting and the lack of universal pandering. It was at the point, when it looked like Bernie might win, Trump started gaining momentum. This momentum, was due heavily, to Trump adopting Bernies pandering policy.
But what makes Bernie extreme? In europe he would be simply a socialist and not even necessary left. Or is someone who want's to share already a communist in the US? Wouldn't that kinda make Jesus a communist hardliner too? The Bible is full of cases where they directly mention how wealthy and rich people should share a part of their wealth, and it doesn't get tired to mention compassion and support for the ill and weak. Yet, as a nation that sure gets very crazy about religion and all that ... the US is pretty heavy on capitalism and all that. You can't afford good education? Well you're bad that you're not born rich!
What's even more fun, is to see how all those people that supported Trump for months, now back down, it seems everyone has a mother, grandmother, daughter, sister or what ever that shouldn't be grabbed by the Pussy. I mean, did Trump somehow change? They knew what kind of person he was from the begining and now they chicken out.
If there is one thing that Trump did really well, then it was to absolutely destroy the Republican Party.
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Sharing (voluntary redistribution) is very different from stealing (forced distribution)
Which is exactly what they do through institutions called charities.
Which is not contradictory. At least not to anyone who doesn't base his knowledge of Christianity on Bill Maher comedy sketches.
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Yeah, but it only happens to count when we talk about abortion clinics. If it comes down to starting wars and killing muslims, it's ok again.
You know, the reason why I love atheists like Stephen Fry is because they don't bullshit you. They're not hypocrytes. But when you're dealing with people like Bush for example who don't get tired of talking about god and justice and how they are supperior because it gets him the votes, you can't help but call them anything else but hypocrites. Weapons of mass destruction ... but hey! Who cares ... a few 100.000 dead people ... they are not white people. Nor are they rich. They are the 'bad' people, and it is ok to kill them. Imagine if Putin did something like that to, no clue? France? Or the US even? It would be WW3 right now. But since we (as in the west) are the good guys, it's all justified.
- And before someone says something, yes Putin is an asshole, so was Sadam. But that's not the point. The point is that we don't care about human rights when it comes to foreign policy, it's about mining rights.
How can a 1 year or 6 month old child be responsible for shitty parents? Serious question. Or are you liable for your parents or what?
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Oh, you know him. Poor people have poverty in their genes and should be culled.
Throatpunch
Banned
You know who are useless. The Admins. Because they haven't banned this prat.
The admins aren't useless, they're dead. Which kinda amounts to the same, I guess.
I wouldn't say that. Dead people can be still usefull. Just ask the 1972 rugby union team of the Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 which crashed in the Andes.
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I have explained many times in the past
First of all, our population is much BIGGER than the 'Nordic', countries , that Bern uses in his examples. it is absolutely asinine to make a comparison like that. Leave it to the 'free shit', folks to absolutely gobble up that rhetoric.
As illluminati pointed out, sharing is VOLUNTARY. I mean seriously, how fucking hard is that to understand? What Bernie wants is government sponsored robbery via tax. The tax doesn't even help everyone, unlike fire or police.
If someone goes to college for some dumbass, useless degree, they should pay for it themselves. I shouldn't have to bail out someone who is going to college just to fuck around. Make t free and that is EXACTLY what is going to happen.
Bernies global political position is make America the worlds bitch by playing fair while everyone else cheats.
Sure that 6 month - 1 year old is innocent. The problem isn't the kid though. Free shit will encourage that kids dubfuck parents to make even more fucking kids, burdening the system even MORE. It is called the assholes ruin it for everyone theory.
This is why he is an extremist. His policies would absolutely fail and bankrupt this nation yet he continues to think it will work. he will make America even weaken than Trump or Clinton would.
First of all, our population is much BIGGER than the 'Nordic', countries , that Bern uses in his examples. it is absolutely asinine to make a comparison like that. Leave it to the 'free shit', folks to absolutely gobble up that rhetoric.
As illluminati pointed out, sharing is VOLUNTARY. I mean seriously, how fucking hard is that to understand? What Bernie wants is government sponsored robbery via tax. The tax doesn't even help everyone, unlike fire or police.
If someone goes to college for some dumbass, useless degree, they should pay for it themselves. I shouldn't have to bail out someone who is going to college just to fuck around. Make t free and that is EXACTLY what is going to happen.
Bernies global political position is make America the worlds bitch by playing fair while everyone else cheats.
Sure that 6 month - 1 year old is innocent. The problem isn't the kid though. Free shit will encourage that kids dubfuck parents to make even more fucking kids, burdening the system even MORE. It is called the assholes ruin it for everyone theory.
This is why he is an extremist. His policies would absolutely fail and bankrupt this nation yet he continues to think it will work. he will make America even weaken than Trump or Clinton would.
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Dr Fallout
Centurion
This is where I confirm you're retarded.
They don't have kids because kids get free shit, what kind of dumbfuck logic is that? They have more kids so these kids go into more jobs and earn more money which the parents coast off.
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
You mean the same dumb fuck parents that raise their children to be racists? Or maybe the dumb fuck irresponsible parents that pay no attention to their kids, letting them run wild? Or maybe it is the dumb fuck parents who let their kids get their hands on guns that look REAL?
These parents do not INTEND to have kids. They are just stupid because they don't believe in contraception, are fucking stupid enough to let their religion tell them that contraception is a sin and will send them to hell, or just plain too stupid to use it.
Well off people with 1-3 kids and poverty stricken people with 3 or above? How the fuck does that add up?
And I am the retard for pointing that out? great logic there.
These parents do not INTEND to have kids. They are just stupid because they don't believe in contraception, are fucking stupid enough to let their religion tell them that contraception is a sin and will send them to hell, or just plain too stupid to use it.
Well off people with 1-3 kids and poverty stricken people with 3 or above? How the fuck does that add up?
And I am the retard for pointing that out? great logic there.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
What the fuck? I'm not even talking about that. All I'm saying is that parents wouldn't have more kids because they have free shit, as you said,
but because more kids means more workers, more workers means more money, money that can go to the parents.
Nice strawmen there.
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Your second point doesn't really help your first point.
Parents have more children in the belief that said children will bring in more money, thanks to tax payer dollars, which is an INCENTIVE. this is if we operate on your assumption.
Even with that said, fine, I concede my point. Free shit does not necessarily GUARANTEE that dumb fuck parents will have more kids.
Parents have more children in the belief that said children will bring in more money, thanks to tax payer dollars, which is an INCENTIVE. this is if we operate on your assumption.
Even with that said, fine, I concede my point. Free shit does not necessarily GUARANTEE that dumb fuck parents will have more kids.
Illuminati Confirmed!
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I don't think you understand how child labor works. Even if you're going to be a complete douche and send your five year old to work in a coal mine or something, that still requires raising him (i.e. keeping him alive) for five years. Which requires a pretty big amount of money better used on flashy clothes and drugs, don't you think?
Seriously, how hard is it to understand that subsidizing a certain kind of behavior encourages said behavior. Just like farming subsidies might make someone who couldn't survive in the free market into a farmer, subsidies which dampen the consequences of stupidity encourage stupid behavior.
The issue most people have with abortion clinics is that they don't want them to be funded by tax dollars. And there's nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with not wanting wars you disagree with be funded through your money.
It's got nothing to do with us being "the good guys", it has everything to do with us being us. Just like someone throwing a grenade into the room next to yours is more disturbing than someone throwing it somewhere on the other side of town.
That's irrelevant. The relevant question is - How am I responsible for the child having shitty parents? And if I'm not, why is my money being spent on them?
TheGM
The voice of reason
*comes back to this topic after sometime away*
I am reminded of that one time when Bernie Sanders was asked how he would pay for universal higher education and his answer was the bite those nose off the reporter who asked the question before tossing a desk out a fourth floor window and jumping out of it.
I am reminded of that one time when Bernie Sanders was asked how he would pay for universal higher education and his answer was the bite those nose off the reporter who asked the question before tossing a desk out a fourth floor window and jumping out of it.