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horst said:our defense sucked baaad today. portugal will be very hard. what i really liked, were the short and fast passes, but... only 1 good defender wont be enough against the portugese.
Sander said:That, or the game Croatia played against the Germans was just a lucky fluke.
If they can play the opening game horribly, they can also play the quarter final horribly. Yeah, Croatia is the favourite, but Turkey isn't without a shot.
Assman again said:Most people would say that that's exactly what the Dutch team is missing, exactly. In fact, that's what I've heard a lot before this tournament.
That was even on the Portuguese TV newshorst said:was on german news tv
very bouncy and uplifting news. giev moer!
I don't think Turkey will do that that easily, really.Brother None said:Nobody is ever without a shot, don't be asinine.
That said, did Cro-Ger look like a lucky fluke? Looked more like Germany biting dirt and trying to hand the game to Croatia, and Croatia accepting. Mayhap this next match will be the same.
More like people willing to commit a foul and play rough. I'd say Heitinga has that quality, too, and Boulahrouz. De Jong can be a mean fucker, too I think.Brother None said:What, fouls? Heck no. People say the Dutch miss that certain sense of bloodthirstiness. But that's not the same thing as fouls. The best, most bloodthirsty defenders usually get by without any fouls, because they're just that good. Like Mertesacker.
'cor, fouls are a part of that, but that's more a sense of knowing when to make a foul, to tip a psychological balance or whatever. De Zeeuw knows that, I think, no one else does in our team, 's true.
He's probably going to rest almost everyone, and give a lot of the benched players their shot. Both for morale and fitness reasons, I suppose. De Telegraaf (yuck) reported that only Van der Sar and Engelaar would start, giving this line-up:Brother None said:Wonder what san Marco is going to do v Romania. Obviously de Jong and Ooijer are right out, best to avoid risk for those two key players. It'd make sense to put Heitinga in the D, move van Bronckhorst up a line and put de Cler on left wingback.
Other than that...give van Persie a full match to enable him to get some more game fitness? Let Kuijt rest his weary little legs?
In any case, really going for the win is still an imperative. Don't want to lose no tournament form.
Sander said:I don't think Turkey will do that that easily, really.
I think the fact that Croatia is being so highly estimated is largely due to Germany's poor performance.
Sander said:He's probably going to rest almost everyone, and give a lot of the benched players their shot. Both for morale and fitness reasons, I suppose. De Telegraaf (yuck) reported that only Van der Sar and Engelaar would start, giving this line-up:
Van der Sar: Melchiot, Heitinga, Bouma, De Cler: De Zeeuw, Engelaar: Van Persie, Afellay, Robben: Huntelaar
Of course, it's De Telegraaf and you never know how reliably that paper is.
Sander said:EDIT: Haha. According to the BBC if Romania wins and Italy and France draw, then Italy and France would have to shoot penalties to determine who gets third place.
I'd almost cheer on Romania to see that.
Jesterka said:Seriously, who on earth is that sigged fan-pussy, Brother Tulip?
Is every Lativan girl so pretty and chesty? If so, I'm moving to Latvia ASAP.Brother None said:Jesterka said:Seriously, who on earth is that sigged fan-pussy, Brother Tulip?
A Latvian who has lived in Holland for these past 10 years. Those wings were her boyfriend's idea, and yes, since then she's being photographed everywhere.
And AD did a special report on her.
France can't go through for nuts. Not in the same group with Italy or even The Netherlands (powered by the winged ex-soviet femme fatale).Damn Turk yay said:I really wonder why the best right back of the year in PL this last year Sagna, Flamini, Frey, Mexes etc... are not in the squad while the likes Govou, Sagnol, Coupet (All 3 has been injured a long time this year) are. They are all performing so rubbish. What a joke it was to play Abidal at CB which backfired badly. Look at the balls Toni is getting behind French defence, with proper finishing it could have been 3,4-0 by now.
Ehm, yeah, my point: better than Germany in very poor form.Brother None said:I don't think so.
Did you see them against Poland? Not that Poland is a very good team, but even Croatia's B-team looked pretty good out there.
Better than Germany, in any case.
Turns out De Telegraaf was right 'cept for Melchiot/Boulahrouz and Stekelenburg/Sar.Brother None said:Sander said:He's probably going to rest almost everyone, and give a lot of the benched players their shot. Both for morale and fitness reasons, I suppose. De Telegraaf (yuck) reported that only Van der Sar and Engelaar would start, giving this line-up:
Van der Sar: Melchiot, Heitinga, Bouma, De Cler: De Zeeuw, Engelaar: Van Persie, Afellay, Robben: Huntelaar
Of course, it's De Telegraaf and you never know how reliably that paper is.
Pure speculation, van Basten never spreads word of who gets to play, not even to players, until game day.
AD had this:
Van der Sar - van Bronckhorst, Heitinga, Mathijssen, Boulahrouz - van der Vaart, de Zeeuw - Robben, Sneijder, van Persie/Kuijt - van Nistelrooy
Which I think is a lot more likely. Van Basten has absolutely no reason to take out any starters except de Jong and Ooijer.
Would've been funny to see two teams shoot penalties about something they don't care about.Brother None said:...Why? Who cares who gets third place?
Sander said:Someone should shoot that Dutch commentator, though. Could he stop going on about how incredibly briliant that failed pass was and get back to the bloody game for once? Yeesh.
J said:Is every Lativan girl so pretty and chesty?