UP and RP updates

Cerebro said:
If you click on the link in the first post and scroll a bit down, there is another link called "Changelog"

Here is what's new for 0.9: (RP version)

Version 9
  • General:
    • Allowed all Kaga version to be knocked down.
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Kinda fucked up i killed kaga on the 2nd encounter
 
Sounds like changes that don't require a new game. Updating the files should be fine I guess.
 
Lexx said:
Sounds like changes that don't require a new game. Updating the files should be fine I guess.
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Backing up just in case, everytime i mess with anything i always end up getting an error one way or another.

Also, i still can't gain access to the vertibird at navarro, i mean the scripts and text are THERE in the data folder but i cant gain access to it, no hand icon nor does the air traffic control terminal work, burn could you address this issue in the next update please.

Unless this is an issue with RP itself and this is a common bug?
 
I tried out v9 and there was no music in game. Other sounds seemed to work but no music. I solved it by going into the backup\rpu\ directory and copied and pasted the music .acm files back into data\sounds\music.
 
Cerebro said:
Does anyone here know if these fixes are included into RPU?

- https://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/fallout-2-ending-bug.218161/#post-4343398
- https://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/fallout-2-ending-bug.218161/#post-4343676 (The one about the robot in the EPA is mentioned in this recent 0.9 release, but the linked file includes several others.)
- https://www.nma-fallout.com/threads...fficial-expansion.202265/page-61#post-4307038
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Just backup everything, install the mod then the fixes and see
 
Again, F2SE isnt compatible with this mod, idk what the fuck i did last time to make it work but now it's not working after the update
 
I met game crushed when attacking turret in Navarro,just use RPU V9 and no other mods.What did I do wrong?
 
Maybe I should state this one more time, with all clarity:
This topic is not monitored. Please report bugs to the corresponding github repos: UPU, RPU. The instruction is in the readme.
 
Hello all. I'm really looking forward to trying these out, but I'm hesitant because apparently there are a lot of issues with it. Has anyone been able to play it with no problems?

My plan:
Install Fallout 2 from steam.
Install RP 2.3.3, installer version.
Install this.
Possibly update sfall and fiddle with ddraw.ini.
Install F2WR on top.

Any suggestions?
 
I'm pretty sure you don't have to install the old RP files.
 
Is the UP update included in the RP update (as was the original UP included in the original RP)?

Or should the UP update be installed on top of the RP update?
 
Can we sticky this topic? I feel like people don't know that reporting bugs for these two gems is not in vain.

I know burn wants the bug reports to be on github, I am just thinking about how to let people know somehow that they can actually report them and I thought stickying this might bring up the attention.
 
@burn Recommend a Quest editting: Vault Village in Restoration Project

Vault village seems to be accessible only AFTER you return from NCR (recon the route from VC to NCR).

In which case, its xp is a bit out of sync with a post-NCR character. Too little, too late. And 4 Assault Rifle + 1 shotgun would be easy to acquire due to hoarding from that long trip. Let alone its character, JOE, at that time would be, almost always, out on the tomblike field patch instead of inside Cassidy bar (since we most likely acquire that char and close the bar already). Also, its location make it a bit too silly. VC-VV-GECKO

If it's accessible from start, it would be more useful.

MOST logically placed would be right after GECKO recon quest, since Vault Village is between GECKO and VC. EVERYTHING would be solved by push it earlier.
 
Right. I have a completely new and clean Steam installation. I don't need the original 2.2.3. RP installed to use this, right? I don't know if I'm the only one who finds the installation instructions woefully lacking.

Also, my antivirus had a seizure, when I tried installing UP update.
 
Just figured out the same..

Muttie said:
-When installing RP 2.3.3 it asks which ammo fix to install: Glovz or YAAM. Default setting is YAAM.
And I'm pretty sure the current RPU patch is build on the YAAM version (i.e. the changes RP makes based on selection (proto/items and proto.msg etc.) although the errors this causes may be minimal (proto.msg, line 511 only).
However, this choice needs to be emulated in ddraw too. RP will set it to YAAM (damageformular = 5) by default (i.e. if not selecting Glovz), but the RPU patch resets ddraw to 0, which will result in a bit of a mess (i.e. it uses all the DT modifiers as if they are DR modifiers).
I did some testing (shooting Vic with a 14mm).
And I'm pretty sure that when setting ddraw to 0, the 14mm pistol uses the proto file for 14mm ammo and that is 1/1 dmg and -8% DR. Which is an average of 10 versus Metal Armour.
However, it should be 1/1 dmg and -8 DT. Which is an average of 17 versus Metal Armour.
So setting ddraw to 0 appears to fail to use the YAAM formula, but uses the proto files that are corrected for YAAM.
Either way you need to adjust ddraw, after patching RP 2.3.3 with RPU_v2 to the ammo mod selected during 2.3.3's installation.
UPU, on the other hand should probably be set to 0 (but I haven't tested Killap's unofficial patch).
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I want to tweak YAAM a bit.

1. I want to bring back DR modifier to the ammo proto, and take out the AC modifer. (so to have DR and DT modifiable in protos). Can someone tell me how?
EDIT: I think the AC modifier is redundant, especially if u added the DT modifier. This is because the AC armor modifier was included to simulate the deflection of bullets (metal armor doesn't make u be more agile so u can avoid bullets, right?) so adding DT modifier should do(the deflecting capabilities of the armor is represented by DT). Meanwhile, I think DR should be effected by bullet type(a leather armor decreases the energy of a 9mm parabellum much much more than a full 7.62x51 AP rifle round, isn't it?)

2. I would like to change the damage calculation, but I don't know where this code resides(and which app to use to edit it). How can I reach this code and edit it?

Please help out.
Thanks
 
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AC modifier also represent the "spread across a big area" feature of weapon. Like, Flamer. When you fire one Flamer, you know they almost certainly cant avoid: -20 AC.

If you remove this feature how the heck do you plan to simulate it?
 
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laclongquan said:
AC modifier also represent the "spread across a big area" feature of weapon. Like, Flamer. When you fire one Flamer, you know they almost certainly cant avoid: -20 AC.

If you remove this feature how the heck do you plan to simulate it?
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What I meant (and thanks for pointing out) was The AC modifier is redundant for ammo.

1. There's not suppose to be much difference (if any) between ammo types (JHP,FMJ,AP) in their "chance to hit" stat (I didn't say AC on purpose).

2. weapons (such as flamer, shotguns etc' are very easy to modify a bonus to hit% (via script).

3. What u are saying only works for armored critters. It will have less to almost none effect on unarmed critters - critters with low AC to begin with, thus, missing your intended function. (I haven't checked actually, but makes sense. Correct me if i'm wrong.)

4. Meanwhile, penetration is MUCH more varied between ammo types, and DT adds another aspect of penetration to ammo, which I think can be useful in some ways. At least more useful than the AC modifier for ammo.
 
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