Wasted Potential

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Empty09, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. Sikik

    Sikik First time out of the vault

    Nov 18, 2015
    I felt like Quincy was a huge letdown. I was expecting there to be some sort of quest to rebuild the town or something, but nope. You kill some gunners and keep going your merry way.
  2. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    From this post:

    Raiders in general. In Fallout 4 your main quest is not for the benefit of anyone but yourself.
    There are so many raiders and raider settlements that provide background... After you killed them all because they are hostile.
    The Robot Racing Ring? The Combat Zone? The settlement made of boats and ships?
    Could have been pretty damn cool if one could interact a bit more with them.
    Actually, it would have been awesome if you could actually join the raiders and maybe unite them all as a warlord. Fuck the Minutemen, Railroad, BoS and Institute. Rule the wasteland with an iron fist, now that will let you find Shaun easily!
    You don't have a grand altruistic quest this time. You only want your son. It could have worked, I think. Reduce the raiders to a few major gangs with leaders, convince those who can be convinced to join you and kill the rest. Rape and pillage settlements and force them to join and/or serve you (like those raiders with the blood contracts). Build enough numbers to take on the BoS, rule Boston.
    I need to learn how to mod to make that...
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  3. khain

    khain [X] Sarcastic

    Dec 3, 2015
    That would indeed have been rather cool.

    Especially having watched the latest Mad Max movie recently, picturing yourself as a Raider Warlord is quite appealing.

    And since after a while you've got a few Power Armors, you could even name a few generals in your Raider ranks to equip with some of those.


    Just thought of something: when there are Minutemen settlements you haven't 'conquered' yet, you could use one of those generals and instead of 'Establish supply lines', have an option to send them on raids, bringing resources to you.
  4. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Exactly. Who doesn't want to have their own Lanius or, indeed, Imperator Furiosa to slaughter some Minutemen sissies?
    This is the first game where being a raider is not detrimental to the main quest, really.
  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Or, not evencare about Shaun at all, and becoming a crazy warloard, just like the kind you see in Mad Max. Loosing your wife, waking up 200 years later, finding your self in the middle of a test like guinea pig while the world around you is wasted, could send a man or woman on a very dark path.

    Seriously? Why don't we get paid for this stuff ...
  6. khain

    khain [X] Sarcastic

    Dec 3, 2015
    I still remember bits of Todd's interview where he was saying something along the lines of:

    "We want to answer 'yes' every time the player asks a question that starts with 'Can I...?' "

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  7. omegaspruz

    omegaspruz First time out of the vault

    Dec 1, 2015
    Bad design philosophy... bad
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  8. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    "Can I enjoy Fallout 4?"
  9. Empty09

    Empty09 Still Mildly Glowing

    Nov 26, 2009
    I'd like to know how to mod too. Anyways guys, I realized that I've made a mistake when I had expectation from Fallout 4.
    After finishing the game, reading almost all there is to read and toy with some older save files and starting the game again it's clear to me that the whole thing is dead. I can't believe that if I replay a Fallout game it will be exactly the same thing. Yea I know that you can choose to throw a bomb on the people on the left or the people on the right but that ending slider is the same in the end and quests aren't even quests no more.

    I've tried on my second gameplay to roleplay a woman (since I wanted to see the gender differences) that's heartless and "bad" character.
    It's the same shit, same stupid dialogue with the same Questions / same answers. Roleplaying (inFO4) is dead.

    It's just one of those games that you play, have a little fun maybe and then forget it and never come back to it again.
  10. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Antediluvian as Feck

    Nov 26, 2007
    Am I correct in thinking that the player can magically deposit a natural water supply into a settlement at anywhere they wish?
    [... and that Bethedsa did not place naturally occurring water to be found on the map, and have it cost pipes to reach, and redirect the water to a local pump at the settlement?]
  11. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    From the settlement building I saw on youtube, it seems you can set pumps where ever you want. But, don't quote me on it!
  12. Theinnerfish

    Theinnerfish Storytelling skeleton

    Jul 25, 2015
    Eeeeermm.. Yes? Big water purifiers(no G.E.C.K needed) requires water to built on but fountains can built in every settlement.
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2015
  13. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Just did.
  14. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    You can, just gotta headbutt a brick wall a few times first.
  15. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Lower your intelligence... then you're set to go!
  16. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    Hey, the average SPECIAL in Fallout 4 is 3 across the board after all. :wink:
  17. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    I'd say one.
  18. Plzstandbuy

    Plzstandbuy Lonely Drifter

    Dec 7, 2015
    Ever wonder why the NPC on the first floor literally has no point of existing in the entire game?

    Either the memory den is whats left of cut content or is put in place for future DLC.

    The whole game is wasted potential. They copied mods and despite having the source code and way more funding and manpower they couldn't do better the Project Nevada/Wanderer edition

    They kept settlement building way too similar to Real Time Settler mod.

    When building the camera should go to an RTS like angle and have special management screen for assigning jobs and trade routes. But Bethesda just copied the mod community and added nothing to it because they're amateurs.

    Probably expect the modders to grovel and kiss their feet as they cash in on other peoples ideas. They wont even patch their own games anymore they let the modding community do it.
  19. fakeangel

    fakeangel First time out of the vault

    Nov 22, 2015
    Almost, it has to be soil, can't be over asphalt or solid rock.

    Why you can't break the rock? Bethesda.
  20. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Yeah what's with that woman in red in the Memory Den? She serves no porpouse....

    On the Slog I built a Purifier on their pool and that counts as me producing water for them...

    Why can't I scrap or move the turrets in The Covenant? That place is pretty clunky as a settlement building location, the construction are is small, has lots of unmovable/unscrappable buildings and very little space to put anything in...
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