What BoS division do you speculate is in Boston?

I still don't think Bethesda should touch the Midwest Bros. And if they indeed are present in Boston, their iconic power armor is a must, and Bethesda, f*ck off from the design. leave it as it was, don't try to "improve" it, because in my honest and humble opinion, your designs are sh*t compared to originals.
If I have to suffer their bastardization of Midwest BroS I want them to at least look cool and menacing as they were intended. Because I don't believe beth will give them justice in their writing.
 
Askorti said:
I still don't think Bethesda should touch the Midwest Bros. And if they indeed are present in Boston, their iconic power armor is a must, and Bethesda, f*ck off from the design. leave it as it was, don't try to "improve" it, because in my honest and humble opinion, your designs are sh*t compared to originals.
If I have to suffer their bastardization of Midwest BroS I want them to at least look cool and menacing as they were intended. Because I don't believe beth will give them justice in their writing.
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They won't. It's Bethesda.
 
I would love to see the Midwestern BOS again, but not in Bethesda's hands. They were more interesting than Lyons' do-gooders and morons.

generalissimofurioso said:
Battlecross said:
Askorti said:
You know, they moved East to the Midwest and were stuck there for a bit.

The general consensus was that pretty much everything in Fallout Tactics happened except for The Calculator and the Beast Lords.
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What's wrong with Calculator and Beast Lords? I liked the idea of a run-away army of deathbots running amok because some pre-war bureocrats cut some funding. Vault 0's main problem seems to be that it goes by the Fallout 1 idea of Vaults as purely shelters from the war rather than live-in Social Experiment Labs for a spaceship program coupled with people storage and control group. Also the location is a bit stupid (Cheyenne Mountain is such a obvious target, althrough I presume it may have just been on the same massif). And Beastlords were a nice concept - The idea of a tribe of mutants that acquired psionic powers and now mindcontrols animals is interesting. I think the series really needs more mutants in general, too much focus on ghouls and Super muties (pity that the Swampfolk all seem to be totally murderous generic evil hicks out of Redneck Rampage).

(I would say furry SENTIENT deathclaws are worse. If at least they followed the Brotherhood like dogs because they think The Warrior's victory over the Beastlords now made him Pack Leader, that would be more plausible.)
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Slaughter Manslaught said:
What's wrong with Calculator and Beast Lords?
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The Brotherhood gaining control of a vast robot army would basically make their outward expansion an unstoppable inevitability.

And for Beast Lords, the idea of psionics in Fallout isn't new, but it was always intended that it was a very rare occurrence to a degree of one in a million.

An entire tribe of them also upsets the balance of power.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
Slaughter Manslaught said:
What's wrong with Calculator and Beast Lords?
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The Brotherhood gaining control of a vast robot army would basically make their outward expansion an unstoppable inevitability.

And for Beast Lords, the idea of psionics in Fallout isn't new, but it was always intended that it was a very rare occurrence to a degree of one in a million.

An entire tribe of them also upsets the balance of power.
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I don't know... I don't mind so much know. Remember the psionics is limited to animal control. Nothing else.
 
Yeah, just kind of have the higher ranking members be the ones with the highest level of control with descending tiers of ability with the majority of the clan having very little if any psionic powers.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
Yeah, just kind of have the higher ranking members be the ones with the highest level of control with descending tiers of ability with the majority of the clan having very little if any psionic powers.
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Agreed. Maybe have the leaders fully have it and they use superstitious tribals as the main soldier.
 
Ugh no, if we start introducing functional Psykers into the setting, shit will just turn into Xmen in no time, with pople demanding a Psyker protagonist ala Skyrim and such. Psykers worked as a show of what the multiple paths the FEV could lead humanity through, with the Psykers as a failed and doomed one, in fact the only creature with psionic abilities that could mantain any semblance of functionality was the Master himself and he was an amalgamation of minds and mutations. The fact that even the Hulk mutants has a critical weakness (being sterile, and thus a doomed species) touches more on the FEV, a weapon from the prewar days, not being the path to survival for humanity.

Don't give Bethesda or the Bethfanboys ideas... they already ruined the Super Mutants and the Enclave...
 
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Ugh no, if we start introducing functional Psykers into the setting, shit will just turn into Xmen in no time, with pople demanding a Psyker protagonist ala Skyrim and such. Psykers worked as a show of what the multiple paths the FEV could lead humanity through, with the Psykers as a failed and doomed one, in fact the only creature with psionic abilities that could mantain any semblance of functionality was the Master himself and he was an amalgamation of minds and mutations. The fact that even the Hulk mutants has a critical weakness (being sterile, and thus a doomed species) touches more on the FEV, a weapon from the prewar days, not being the path to survival for humanity.

Don't give Bethesda or the Bethfanboys ideas... they already ruined the Super Mutants and the Enclave...
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Isn't it basically all but guaranteed you become leader of the Minutemen because a Psyker said you should be?
 
What's wrong with you guys? Can't you imagine the possibilities? Fighting the villain Skyrim-Style with radiation instead of shouts while the villain summons death claws out of thin air? It will be awesome! Just like magic ... I mean ... you know ... guys ... ? :look:
 
Walpknut said:
Ugh no, if we start introducing functional Psykers into the setting, shit will just turn into Xmen in no time, with pople demanding a Psyker protagonist ala Skyrim and such. Psykers worked as a show of what the multiple paths the FEV could lead humanity through, with the Psykers as a failed and doomed one, in fact the only creature with psionic abilities that could mantain any semblance of functionality was the Master himself and he was an amalgamation of minds and mutations. The fact that even the Hulk mutants has a critical weakness (being sterile, and thus a doomed species) touches more on the FEV, a weapon from the prewar days, not being the path to survival for humanity.

Don't give Bethesda or the Bethfanboys ideas... they already ruined the Super Mutants and the Enclave...
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But... magic?

No seriously, we need something lore friendly, logical and original.
 
Well, I dunno, aliens went from being a funny easter egg to a real thing with an actual dlc and everything. Bethesda does what it feels like.
 
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