CerberusGate
I should save my game in a whole new slot
I like how rather than some melodramatic theme overshadowing the environment, what is in this video regarding the soundtrack mostly consists of the environmental sounds of the Sierra Madre.
What Fallout 4 should've included
- Thread starter CT Phipps
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Not only is the past alive, but it consumes everything that goes there.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
All Fallout 4 really needed was better dialogue and more diverse endings and it would have been a fine game.
It would be by no means a great game, but it would have been acceptable.
It would be by no means a great game, but it would have been acceptable.
TheChosen1
Moving Target
Well, I would have played it.
:sniff:
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
On a serious note, I do think Fallout 4 needed 4 actual DLC Expansions.
Autamatron wasn't bad but I didn't care for any of the others.
Autamatron wasn't bad but I didn't care for any of the others.
TheChosen1
Moving Target
Silly rabbit...Automatron wasn't an actual expansion.
But on a serious note, how about releasing the full game instead of trying to squeeze as much money out as possible through DLC?
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
No, it was a nice bit of side story but I wanted four actual Expansions.
I also think that the game would have felt better if they'd just foregone much of the Western map and put Nuka World there while putting Far Harbor in the East.
TheChosen1
Moving Target
It would've also felt much better if they actually put more things on the map instead of letting the player fill it up themselves.
Fallout 4 should have included proper raiders right from the start, with raiders being a viable path for the main quest. Unite the raider tribes and rule the wasteland with an iron fist! Given that the SS has no connections to the Commonwealth it would have been a reasonable path.
It should also have included proper writing. The question wether the player is a synth could have been a big part of the game. Have the game decide randomly at the start of the game wether the player is a synth or not, and let the only option to find out be killing your (possible) synthclone that you meet at the finale, with subtle clues along the way (that could also mislead you). Maybe even let the (possible) synthclone work against you during the main quest, reacting to your actions during the game. You back the BoS, your synthclone dynamically helps the Railroad, something like that. You become a raider, your clone becomes Pesto Gravey'sworkhorse general. But that would go against Bethesda's rule of letting the player be the Godking of absolutely everything...
The game also should have had proper dialogue. It makes sense to back the Institute. You become the Director, you can change them! Stop the idiotic synth raids, maybe get them to help the wasteland properly. But no, when you back them you can't actually explain yourself to Piper or Nick or Pesto Gravey. "Uh, the Institute is the future. Durrr" is all you can say.
Fallout 4 should have included a proper game...
It should also have included proper writing. The question wether the player is a synth could have been a big part of the game. Have the game decide randomly at the start of the game wether the player is a synth or not, and let the only option to find out be killing your (possible) synthclone that you meet at the finale, with subtle clues along the way (that could also mislead you). Maybe even let the (possible) synthclone work against you during the main quest, reacting to your actions during the game. You back the BoS, your synthclone dynamically helps the Railroad, something like that. You become a raider, your clone becomes Pesto Gravey's
The game also should have had proper dialogue. It makes sense to back the Institute. You become the Director, you can change them! Stop the idiotic synth raids, maybe get them to help the wasteland properly. But no, when you back them you can't actually explain yourself to Piper or Nick or Pesto Gravey. "Uh, the Institute is the future. Durrr" is all you can say.
Fallout 4 should have included a proper game...
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
I love Bethesda Raiders. The whole aesthetic of them is awesome. I love the whole culture of banditry which has been built up on the East Coast.
Them not being a faction sucks.
I also think the Gunners suck as they feel like Talon Company without the mystery.
I actually give credit to the rebuttal you can give Nick Valentine. "Did you want the Brotherhood of Steel to win?" He just goes, "Well....no but..." It's a nice argument which shuts him up. Piper also comes around and believes in you because she's Lois Lane and you're Superman.
Preston is just a dick. I'm annoyed no one else had a comment, though.
Juza The Cloud
Nanto Goshasei
I have a few minor things like how about the ability to build eyebots at the robot bench's or to build bunkbeds at settlements.
CerberusGate
I should save my game in a whole new slot
I'm actually surprised that this was not even in the base game. Then again, it would mean Bethesda would have to put in some effort in animating settlers climbing into said beds so...
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
On a more personal note, I feel like there's some missing Companion quests.
* Piper and her sister get no resolution. Piper's interview isn't really a quest either.
* Hancock never really confronts the fact his brother has been murdered and replaced by an identical robot.
* Strong never finds Milk of Human Kindness!
Shameful.
* Piper and her sister get no resolution. Piper's interview isn't really a quest either.
* Hancock never really confronts the fact his brother has been murdered and replaced by an identical robot.
* Strong never finds Milk of Human Kindness!
Shameful.
CerberusGate
I should save my game in a whole new slot
Does he even receive any form of character development or resolution for his story? I don't recall that.
(Then again, I abandoned him at one of my settlements because I got really annoyed by his disapproval of lockpicking ("So am I supposed to bash the invulnerable object with my weapons instead, you thick-headed brute?!"))
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
The only character development I noted was the fact he actually approves of helping humans as apparently Super Mutants are communists and he approves of helping others.
Also cannibalism.
But yes, I totally wanted you to get a Milk Bottle, fill it up with Brahmin milk and chems, then give it to Strong as a present.
CerberusGate
I should save my game in a whole new slot
I'd rather he actually got to re-learn humanity and develop as a person, finding a way to suppress the stupid mutant stereotype of Bethesda games and become like Marcus from 2 & New Vegas.
CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
The Stupid Mutant stereotype is from Fallout 1 isn't it? It's due to the fact smart Mutants need to be radiation free. Hence Fawkes is probably one of the original FEV Vaulters.
As for Strong, I agree, but I'm okay with just giving him the object too.
Bethesda's raiders in Fallout 3 were just awful. Plain crazies without any point. It's nice that they tried in Fallout 4 to give them at least the resemblance of a backstory, but given that it's Bethesda, they failed miserably. Adding conveniently placed terminals to read the stories of oh-so-human raiders after you're forced to kill them, yay. Fuck that.
And aesthetics? They're the most generic "evil spikey wasteland craziey" imaginable. Just a plain Road Warrior rip-off without the originality. And "culture of banditry"... Yeah, right. There's no culture. They live in ruins decorated with corpses, and that's all the culture shown, at least in Fallout 3. Again, they tried in Fallout 4, but failed miserably because writing is hard.
And the Gunners were just more random raiders with a different colour scheme. Utterly boring.
That's not a very good rebuttal, that's basically like saying "I vote Trump because I don't want Clinton to win". It's retarded. The player has good reasons to back the Institute. The SS is the goddamn Director and has the finger on all buttons. He can change the Institute. Well, not that the SS ever thought of that, apparently. The lunacy of a pre-made character in a cRPG.
I do like how Pesto is apparently psychic and immediately hates me when I give the Nuka World raiders a settlement in the wasteland. Apparently he really cared about the ghouls infesting that abandoned house... And he immediately knows that I did this, despite nothing actually happening yet.
Eh, only a few of Fallout 1's super mutants were actually dumb. But since Harry was one of the first mutants you see (and one of the few you actually talk to) he kinda shaped the image. But the Nightkin and all the elite mutants under the Cathedral were at least of normal human intelligence.The Stupid Mutant stereotype is from Fallout 1 isn't it? It's due to the fact smart Mutants need to be radiation free. Hence Fawkes is probably one of the original FEV Vaulters.
As for Strong, I agree, but I'm okay with just giving him the object too.
CerberusGate
I should save my game in a whole new slot
I found that the best way to sum up Bethesda's raiders is that they are S&M perverts running around a desert and blowing each other up.
Essentially Road Warrior inspired (or accurately, rip offs) lunatics.