People should be able to afford both though. Having decent standards and buying organic food if they choose. But hey! Don't mind me, I am just a leftist retard. What do I know?
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Prone Squanderer
A bit of a Sillius Soddus.
People should be able to have plenty of whatever they want to eat, live wherever they want to live, have their dream job and live in peace and harmony with everyone else. But unfortunately that's not realistic. If I was on benefits I'd have to make the best of my situation and if that means making sacrifices, so be it. I couldn't complain to people that I don't get enough money to live the specific life I want to lead.
DarkCorp
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She doesn't NEED, to eat so fancy, ESPECIALLY, if this behavior reduces the amount of food she can get over all. Plenty of people get by without eating all fancy and smug, she can too.
This is in jest but its strangely important. I could say eating cat is kind of cultural for me. I could say that resteraunts that do not serve cat, are infringing on my cultural rights. You know what most people will say? Grow the fuck up and eat what everyone else is eating. We do not serve cat here.
This is in jest but its strangely important. I could say eating cat is kind of cultural for me. I could say that resteraunts that do not serve cat, are infringing on my cultural rights. You know what most people will say? Grow the fuck up and eat what everyone else is eating. We do not serve cat here.
TheGM
The voice of reason
The obvious solution is to give her more money. Well that is what the Bernie Sanders playbook says.
Why?
If money is the problem, than this could be fixed like tomorrow. I don't get it. And I feel that you guys are arguing for the sake of arguing. For example, I feel that you guys would oppose everything, as long it's coming from a liberal/progressive/leftist. Regardless if it makes sense or not. - I am not saying leftists make always sense or that there aren't some really huge idiots on my side of the spectrum, but you're pretty much the other side of the coin.
The next time banks see a huge baillout I am sure you will be crying and weeping as well, calling conspiracy and foul on the government how it's full of corrupt assholes doing nothing for you. But spending some 3245345234 trillion on the military again? That's justifable, well you gota see, america and biggest bully in the school yard and all! Have to maintain that military ... for some reason I guess. Can you guys remember a time when America wasn't either 1. At war with some nation or 2. Bombing someone or something?
Do you guys ever reflect about your own opinion and choices? How old are you by the way? 18? In your early 20s maybe?
Anyway, there is enough money floating around to make all of that happen, to allow fair wages for everyone and to make sure that people can have decent lifes. But it is this unique american idea, that no clue, poor people kinda deserve their fate or something, and all of them, oh and throw the mentaly ill in to that as well who needs them anyway. High quality education? Decent living? Fuck all that. It's to expensive! Let us shoot more missiles at Assad that do jack shit! They just cost a couple of millions, but who gives? AMERICA! SAVES THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY YEA! Lets drop more money into our pentagon that is known for huge fraud.
You guys have very skewed priorities in my opinion. That wouldn't be much of a problem, if you just left the rest of the world alone. But sadly a lot of american policies have a huge effect on other nations.
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TheGM
The voice of reason
Hey look he posted the America Fuck yeah song. he sure did show us.
YeeCop
Just a Sweet Irradiated Transvestite
What, and give money to people and make it easier for them so they don't have to work for it? No, if you want a decent wage, you gotta work for it. It's not anyone's responsibility to provide a fair wage for everyone.
Let us take this to the extreme, why do you think it's a doctors responsibility to save your life after you had a severe car accident? Maybe he should simply let you die, if you can't pay the bill. Even if the car accident wasn't your fault. Particularly if you end up as a disabled person, then you will only leech of of society anyway. So why should it be anyones responsibility to care about you?
Why do you think it is anyones responsibility to make sure that firefighters rush to your home if it's on fire and entering it to save you if you're traped inside? Even if the fire wasn't your fault to begin with.
Why is it anyones responsibility to make sure that the nuclear power plants are runing correctly, let companies decide for themself what safety they should apply and what not. And if something happens, why is it anyones responsibility to clean that mess up?
Why is it anyones responsibility to look after birdges, roads and infrastructure in your nation? And if they colapse, why is it anyones responsibility to clean it up?
Why is it anyones responsibility in the military to make sure that nuclear weapons are correctly safe guarded and maintained?
Why is it anyones responsibility to make sure that you're well feed and educated as infant and child?
Why is anything anyones responsibility?
From where is this neo-convservative idea coming from, that is currently not only ruining the United States but large parts of this world?
Why should we not make sure that people receive decent wages for their jobs or that people can have decent lives, regardles of the conditions they experience, if the money is there? What speaks against stable societies, where people don't have to decide between good or bad education, good or bad food or good or bad water? Don't you think that it is worrysome that more and more people earn less, while a small percentage of people have a growing wealth? Do you think that this idea of 'only those which have jobs should eat!' is actually a good conept for the future, when yo uconsider how many jobs will dissapear due to automatition?
Unless you have an IQ of 150 it is very very likely that you might end up as one of those people without a job as well:
And a lot of those problems, will only grow over time. And I have yet to see any of those neo-cons offering any solution or even a concept on how to deal with it.
TheGM
The voice of reason
Is that some kind of argument? Vergil much?
YeeCop
Just a Sweet Irradiated Transvestite
That's the thing, man. It's a dog-eat-dog world. Do you think anyone cares about you, or me, apart from your friends and family? No. Bankers and politicians don't give a fuck about the impoverished. Rub the idealistic sand out of your eyes, and realize that a happy socialist land where everyone is paid equally and champagne flows freely from a fountain won''t exist in America. Sorry. Hey, we all want something like that too. But it ain't happening.
I love that attitude
"That society doesn't exist here, so fuck that society right in its ass!"
I think Crni is fully aware that compassion is absent in American society, otherwise he wouldn't be trying argue for it. That's kind of the whole point, you argue to bring something to where that something is lacking.
Ridiculing an idea, just because it's not implemented yet, is just ignorant.
"We can't have solidarity in America, because we don't have solidarity in America."
Oh, and feel free to ridicule me too, I mean, what I fag I must be, right, to give a shit about others. That's not what a real man does. It's a dog-eat-dog-world, and we're all butch, tough men, who fuck women in their faces, and kick puppies in the balls
Fuck yeah, yeah fuck, shit bitch, crush kill.
*hairy chest*
"That society doesn't exist here, so fuck that society right in its ass!"
I think Crni is fully aware that compassion is absent in American society, otherwise he wouldn't be trying argue for it. That's kind of the whole point, you argue to bring something to where that something is lacking.
Ridiculing an idea, just because it's not implemented yet, is just ignorant.
"We can't have solidarity in America, because we don't have solidarity in America."
Oh, and feel free to ridicule me too, I mean, what I fag I must be, right, to give a shit about others. That's not what a real man does. It's a dog-eat-dog-world, and we're all butch, tough men, who fuck women in their faces, and kick puppies in the balls
Fuck yeah, yeah fuck, shit bitch, crush kill.
*hairy chest*
If only. See I don't give a fuck about heartless bastards either. The problem is, they destroy the environment that I occupy. Earth.
The problem is that many of the effects well, hit me as well. Like if the car industry doesn't adapt or outright 'lies' about specifications, or if this fucktard of President decides that coal miners are his most important agenda - despite the fact that the coal industry is on decline.
Explain to me, why is it idealism if you want to protect your environment? Is it idealism that got humans to the moon by the way? Or was it the idea that something which is achievable, could be achieved?
Self presevertation, isn't about ideology, idealism or anything like that.
DarkCorp
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CrniVuk said:
CrniVuk said:
Define it Crni. What is the definition of those two things.
Some spoiled brat who thinks she is too good to eat like the rest of us? People too fucking stupid or lazy to figure out how to get to a grocery store a couple miles down the road? Or how about fucking idiots, who make minimum wage and think they deserve to live in a $500,000 home? What about all the fucktards who DO have the money to get a decent iving but WASTE it by buying frivolous shit, like above, for example? I will tell you now, plenty of people like the above mentioned, have NO PROBLEM, lumping that into DECENT, which is total and complete bullshit. In your view, everyone should get whatever the fuck they want. Remember my analogy about cutting up the pig so much to the point where the pieces are so small they don't make anyone happy? And this is just the tip of the iceberg, there is no fucking way we would have the kind of money to cater to these entitled douche bags.
And before you say, EVIL BANKERS, keep in mind I agree with you there. We need to repeal the GLB act and bring back Glass Steagall. Most of the sub prime problems were directly caused by irresponsible investing and bad lending. However, that does not negate the FACT, that not bailing out the banks would do more damage than bailing them out. They key is to bring back Glass Steagall to help combat such problems. With this in mind, stop looking at bank bailout like it could have been avoided and the money spent on free shit, because that is not the case. The kind of entitlements you speak of Crni, are literally impossible without taxing the fuck out of people who really can't afford to be taxed anymore.
CrniVuk said:
It is not idealism, to want to protect your environment.
What IS idealism is how far you want to go on protection and the methods one takes to do so. Like the psychos who believe that anything other than strict green power is unacceptable. Or how about the even more extreme, who think fucking with nature, in ANY way, is a travesty?
CrniVuk said:
A one shot project that barely got passed, with the prime reason of staying ahead of the Soviets in the space race, is hardly comparable with programs that amount to perpetual free shit. There is a reason we haven't gone back to the moon, and it has more to do with common sense.
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Yes, them as well. All of them. Idiots exist on all sides of the spectrum, but in my opinion everyone deserves a decent access to food, water, education etc. Becuse I see those things as human right.
I am not sure why this particular person right now is such a problem. What is this? The anonymous Ayn Rand worshipers? Why don't we forget those snowflakes for a minute and concentrate on the fact that more than 40 million people receive foot stamps or how many people are living on the poverity line, suffering from environmental issues like pollution, how many billions are wasted as fraud in the Pentagon, and many more issues. Is it really pivotal to all of this discussion if there is some chick that buys organic food?
Do you know what the American society reminds me to?
TheGM
The voice of reason
That would imply anything you've posted has any semblance of validity worth refuting.
So he is ignorant of America and Americans, got it.
Flailing you arms over your head and screaming I AM SILLY isn't doing you any favors either there, cochise.
Just repeating how dumb we are and that our points make no sense isn't doing any favours either there, cochise.
valcik
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I strongly suspect that Crni as a second generation Serbian immigrant living in Germany is utterly friendless.
A wild Valcik appears.
It's using ad hominem.
It's not very effective.
It's using ad hominem.
It's not very effective.
valcik
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
You can't deny that I'm right, though.