Joelzania
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
I'm sure that the developers could put a bit more in than in just a mod.
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
BOS_Warlord
First time out of the vault
Id love to see a snowy winter wasteland, add Ronto or Vancouver as a DLC
Moonrabbit
First time out of the vault
Some more interesting terrain would be nice. FO2 had some, but it wasn't terribly wonderfully illustrated in that format.
As for places like Texas and Nevada(And in the case of Mad Max, Australia. Though I fully appreciate why.) What's the deal with setting these post apocalyptic stories in places that are already, essentially desert wastelands?
There's a guy who goes around taking pictures of real locations and juxtaposes them with their FO:NV counterparts which just goes to show how little difference there actually is.
You've made the job of fan film makers like the Nuka Break guys ridiculously easy, mind you. But it would be nice to see some real, interesting terrain converted to wasteland.
Some flat terrain next to some real mountains would be a good mix and I'd like to see a bit more ocean(As well as anything that might happen to live in it).
So yeah, north east including the Adirondacks would be awesome, then take it right to the coast.
Northern Washington and southern BC is another nice idea(Not just saying that because I'm from Vancouver.) There would be some neat dynamics with the idea of less targeted areas, combined with the shelter of the mountains meaning the aboriginals from the more remote communities would make a come back in the area.
Also, this would be a major outpost for the military during the battle in Alaska. So there's the historical significance.
The annexation of Canada is such a noted event in the opening of FO2, it would be nice to see the the evidence of that, resistance efforts, propaganda, etc.
You also have the network of islands through the Georgia Straight, so some boat travel could be incorporated.
I've been in the narrows where the tidal surges are frighteningly spectacular.
You'd need a hell of a graphics card to capture it properly, but it would be an incredible experience in a video game for a boat chase.
Another thing that might help in giving a variety of locations is a travel system more like that of the original fallout games. I like the idea of walking from location to location and seeing everything there is to see on the way, but it's almost pointless when it makes your map feel as tiny as it does in FO3. The only place it really felt huge was in DC proper where you couldn't take a straight line anywhere.
As for places like Texas and Nevada(And in the case of Mad Max, Australia. Though I fully appreciate why.) What's the deal with setting these post apocalyptic stories in places that are already, essentially desert wastelands?
There's a guy who goes around taking pictures of real locations and juxtaposes them with their FO:NV counterparts which just goes to show how little difference there actually is.
You've made the job of fan film makers like the Nuka Break guys ridiculously easy, mind you. But it would be nice to see some real, interesting terrain converted to wasteland.
Some flat terrain next to some real mountains would be a good mix and I'd like to see a bit more ocean(As well as anything that might happen to live in it).
So yeah, north east including the Adirondacks would be awesome, then take it right to the coast.
Northern Washington and southern BC is another nice idea(Not just saying that because I'm from Vancouver.) There would be some neat dynamics with the idea of less targeted areas, combined with the shelter of the mountains meaning the aboriginals from the more remote communities would make a come back in the area.
Also, this would be a major outpost for the military during the battle in Alaska. So there's the historical significance.
The annexation of Canada is such a noted event in the opening of FO2, it would be nice to see the the evidence of that, resistance efforts, propaganda, etc.
You also have the network of islands through the Georgia Straight, so some boat travel could be incorporated.
I've been in the narrows where the tidal surges are frighteningly spectacular.
You'd need a hell of a graphics card to capture it properly, but it would be an incredible experience in a video game for a boat chase.
Another thing that might help in giving a variety of locations is a travel system more like that of the original fallout games. I like the idea of walking from location to location and seeing everything there is to see on the way, but it's almost pointless when it makes your map feel as tiny as it does in FO3. The only place it really felt huge was in DC proper where you couldn't take a straight line anywhere.
EvilBastrd
First time out of the vault
Chicago area.
Lake Michigan.
Maybe Detroit, Windsor.
Lake Michigan.
Maybe Detroit, Windsor.
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TorontoReign
Guest
EvilBastrd said:
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60941
My sentiments exactly.
Saw this posted somewhere. Just for shits.
I know a very reliable source. He told me during the E3 expo fallout will be revealed. Which is Fallout 4: New York. Factions will rule new York City...
I would hate to see Fallout in New York right now. It has potential to be done very badly.
EvilBastrd
First time out of the vault
Jesus H Christ I hope not.
I don't need a FO version of Escape from New York.
So, hopefully your reliable source is full of shit.
I don't need a FO version of Escape from New York.
So, hopefully your reliable source is full of shit.
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TorontoReign
Guest
EvilBastrd said:
It's not my reliable source. It was a comment on a message board that I pasted. I think it is probably bullshit, but it is worth mentioning. I heard a similar story saying that the next game might be based in Seattle, but it is probably bullshit too. Just like that Fallout: San Francisco trailer.
EvilBastrd
First time out of the vault
Oh. Lol. Dur. Well, I hope that source is full of it then.
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TorontoReign
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EvilBastrd said:
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me though. Quite a few people in the Bethesda and Nexus Forums think its the best place for the next game. I think New York has been used in media to the point of absurdity. I understand that it is an important part of the country, but I want to see other cities for a change. Seattle, Miami, Austin, Atlanta, or even Kansas City... would be better than New York IMO because they would be a breath of fresh air.
How many PA games, books, movies, or comics have been based in New York? Way too many.
Edit: Yes I agree. Arizona would be a perfect location for a future game. I think the Legion would play a big role there.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
I hope that if they use New York they subvert FO3 and make it so the place is a radioactive crater or something. But knwoing bethesda, if they set it in New York we'll see all the famous landmakrs stylishly barely damaged.
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TorontoReign
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Walpknut said:
Well, I understand them doing that to a certain extent, but it can look ridiculous if done wrong. New York was supposed to have had a nuclear Meltdown, so that would bear mentioning. The thing is why feature New York at all? The point of Fallout 4 shouldn't be "What cool city should we focus on?"...
New York would be one of the heaviest hit areas in a war, so it really shouldn't have much left to offer people anymore. Frankly I would rather see any other city besides New York.
WillisPDunlevey
Mildly Dipped
New York is big enough and has enough levels of subterranean tunnels etc. that it would still be interesting to play in if hit by a number of atomic bombs. Note: if it was hit by large hydrogen bombs, then its a bowl shaped glass crater.
The damage could have been done by air defense or ABMs that carried nuke warheads which were used to stop incoming missiles..
2.5kt destroying large 2-10mt incoming hydrogen bombs. That would leave lots of destruction from a number of smaller airbursts, but would not evaporate the city completely.
Persistent radiation could be explained by small amounts of heavy metal fallout from the intercepts along with indian point eventually going critical like fukashima.
WPD
The damage could have been done by air defense or ABMs that carried nuke warheads which were used to stop incoming missiles..
2.5kt destroying large 2-10mt incoming hydrogen bombs. That would leave lots of destruction from a number of smaller airbursts, but would not evaporate the city completely.
Persistent radiation could be explained by small amounts of heavy metal fallout from the intercepts along with indian point eventually going critical like fukashima.
WPD
BOS_Warlord
First time out of the vault
Fallout Toronto lol, it wont ever happen
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TorontoReign
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BOS_Warlord said:
Well, Ronto has already been mentioned, but it may have been referring to a different city. I wouldn't say never either. The Canadian annexation is a major part of Fallout lore. Detroit is right near the Canadian border, and could be a jumping off point to a Canadian based DLC, or something similar to it. Of course there might not be a Fallout: Toronto as you have put it, but the location could be used somehow. Mexico has been mentioned, so it isn't that far fetched.
BOS_Warlord
First time out of the vault
Toronto is too big to be DLC, not that im too familiarized with DLC as i only played fallout 3's core game. But i did just pick up NV:Ultimate edition. Finishing Dead Money right now, fucking Cloud pisses me off.
Renegadexss
It Wandered In From the Wastes
TorontRayne said:
Hell they said for Mass Effect 3 they did not want to use an overused city either.
I think everything points to chicago with the mentions here and there like ED-E
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TorontoReign
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Renegadexss said:
I agree. Chicago would be nice.
new to forums. but long time fallout player since the original.
personally i dont think a new location is needed. after completing new vegas for about the 7th time i think a return to the location in america of the original fallout . its been over 100 years gametime since the original 2, and with the ncr becoming what could be referred to as an old world goverment, ALOT will have changed.
also being british (scottish) would love to see it in britain.... but its never gonna happen, maybe as a spin off for future titles.
also there are very brief mentions of the hub in NV.... and by sounds of it it has become more of a centralised location that fo1.
personally i dont think a new location is needed. after completing new vegas for about the 7th time i think a return to the location in america of the original fallout . its been over 100 years gametime since the original 2, and with the ncr becoming what could be referred to as an old world goverment, ALOT will have changed.
also being british (scottish) would love to see it in britain.... but its never gonna happen, maybe as a spin off for future titles.
also there are very brief mentions of the hub in NV.... and by sounds of it it has become more of a centralised location that fo1.
also reading through this thread i saw alot of people mention they want new factions. personally i dont think many new factions are needed. we have, bos (personal favourite) , NCR, Caesars Legion, Remnants of the Enclave (enclave as a bigger power if it still exists ) , the followers of the apocalypse, the Shi. i may have missed a few minor ones.
Maybe add one or two new factions.. But what we have is enough for a solid series imo.
Obviously if a fallout outside of usa was going to happen totally diffrent new ones could be added then. However fallout outside usa is very unlikley.
Maybe add one or two new factions.. But what we have is enough for a solid series imo.
Obviously if a fallout outside of usa was going to happen totally diffrent new ones could be added then. However fallout outside usa is very unlikley.