Who will the next big villains be?

If it is Bethesda, the different endings would depict a different slideshow depending of the player-character appearance, but would keep the same recorded narration.
 
And those 200 endings would be telling how cool or important you are and show no consequence of yours actions...
 
Bag of Water Chips said:
No-Bark Noonan should be the next main antagonist of the Fallout Series

"YOU WILL ALLLLL SHOW YOUR TRUE FORM!"
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We can have an AIDs epidemic in the Wasteland. It can end with the main character in front of all the wastelanders giving a "Seriously people, stop being gay" speech.
 
BigBoss said:
Bag of Water Chips said:
No-Bark Noonan should be the next main antagonist of the Fallout Series

"YOU WILL ALLLLL SHOW YOUR TRUE FORM!"
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We can have an AIDs epidemic in the Wasteland. It can end with the main character in front of all the wastelanders giving a "Seriously people, stop being gay" speech.
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Dude, right after suggesting (somewhere on this forum, earlyer today) introducing random heart-attacks to the game, I also imagined HIV. It would add to the heroicness of your character, you have contracted HIV - but instead of laying in bed coughing, you are still struggling to save the world! Alturistic and heroic to the end!
 
I think it would be quite interesting to have a nation that have been spared by the great war, that got a incredible technological edge over the whole world in 200 years, have billions of people in their own country, and starts to invade the USA. They could represent a society that is not bad per se, but could be damaging for the wasteland, as unfortunate consequence. So, you could have to fight them, convince them to leave, or help them to ensure their invasion of USA.


I would like them to be some kind of lawfull neutral. For intance, they have pretty great laws, but use robot as law enforcer, that kill outlaws on sight, even if it is just a misunderstanding. For them, as they are billions, and were raised to follow these laws, it isn't a big deal, but once they come into the wasteland, they could destroy entire city just for one man's little mistake. Or maybe they are carrier of disease that kill regular wasteland quickly, with no way to cure them, as they aren't sick themselves. Or maybe they are dogmatic in some of their laws that don't make sense in the Wasteland USA. For instance, if they are billions, they may not allow couple to have more than a children. So they would kill all children bar one, in families that have more children, in the wasteland, which doesn't make sense in there, as they is an high death rate in the Wasteland. Other ideas like that...
 
naossano said:
I think it would be quite interesting to have a nation that have been spared by the great war, that got a incredible technological edge over the whole world in 200 years, have billions of people in their own country, and starts to invade the USA. They could represent a society that is not bad per se, but could be damaging for the wasteland, as unfortunate consequence. So, you could have to fight them, convince them to leave, or help them to ensure their invasion of USA.


I would like them to be some kind of lawfull neutral. For intance, they have pretty great laws, but use robot as law enforcer, that kill outlaws on sight, even if it is just a misunderstanding. For them, as they are billions, and were raised to follow these laws, it isn't a big deal, but once they come into the wasteland, they could destroy entire city just for one man's little mistake. Or maybe they are carrier of disease that kill regular wasteland quickly, with no way to cure them, as they aren't sick themselves. Or maybe they are dogmatic in some of their laws that don't make sense in the Wasteland USA. For instance, if they are billions, they may not allow couple to have more than a children. So they would kill all children bar one, in families that have more children, in the wasteland, which doesn't make sense in there, as they is an high death rate in the Wasteland. Other ideas like that...
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I assume they'd invade to settle in America due to having lack of space in their homelands? So they'd need to revitalize the soil and make sure to make it habitable again. Or would they merely use the wastes and its resources for their own industrial needs? They resemble a giant scrapyard after all (the wastes, not the nation).
 
Could be those reasons.

It could also be because they consider that they should bring civilization on barbarian lands. (like old times settlers)
They could even say that they did a great job with other lands.
 
I theorize that in Fallout 4, it will go back in the Canon Timeline, before the Vault Dweller was exiled from his vault and everything; you'd be a Prisoner of War in China, or Japan, after the bombs fall, and you'll have to team up with Anti-Communist Japanese/Chinese citizens, and/or other PsOW to take down Chairman Cheng, and since you're a Pre-War Soldier, the Enclave would be the main morally ambiguous/ambiguously good faction, basically the BoS or the NCR of this game, and since you're a pre-war soldier, they wouldn't open fire on you the second they encounter you, and they have some Big Dam (see what I did there?) Heroes moment, like you and other PsOW are about to be executed by a line of Asian gunmen, but before they all pull the trigger, they're all gunned down by the superior Enclave and their Plasma Weapons.
And since were in Asia, the main damage-sponge monsters won't be Death Claws, but Yao Guais
But, we'll need a replacement for Super Mutants and other Chaotic Evil Factions, aside from the Red Army of course
 
Why? I personally don't think that having the game set right after the bombs dropped would be a good idea, the whole country would be irradiated to shit and creatures wouldn't have time to mutate, also why Yao Guai? I'm pretty sure that they don't have Grizzly bears there. Also the Chinese wouldn't be taking prisoners by then, they just started an apocalypse (if you believe Richardson). I also am afraid that having the primary objective of a game being something like "Eliminate the President at all costs" will make the game feel too much like Counter strike with a bit more story to it. And the Enclave would be hiding out at bunkers, they wouldn't have the strength that they get during F2, not to mention the fact that they probably wouldn't waste the resources to go after one soldier (or even one battalion) into nuked enemy territory.
 
Well goodness no! I don't mean it the way you said it:
Regarding the Yao Guais, they could probably be unique Yao Guais, like say the normal skinny grizzly model, but with edits so you can see the remnants of White Patches of fur around their body, so they could be Panda versions of Yao Guai;
And I don't mean kill Cheng yourself! I mean basically having a duetagonist, someone with enough firepower to arm a battalion, like Joshua Graham from Honest Hearts, and with a burning grudge against Cheng for something he did to him, like killing his family, or something less clichè;
And for the Enclave, maybe they would hide out in bunkers, but I never said that they would drop the hammer on Asia and deploy the whole of their army, I mean send out small groups of Enclave troopers to help with damage control, and it wouldn't just be for the battalions, keep in mind, their promise is to exterminate people BORN into the wasteland, this doesn't necessarily mean people who survived the bombings that need assistance, and they could escort the non-communist/pro-american Asian citizens out of the bombed vicinity when they're not helping you with the corrupt Asian government; and have Cheng go on a full-on extermination spree of Asia because he'll blame everyone BUT himself for the bombing of Asia.
And regarding the bombing, maybe it could be a few days before the bombing, but so Fallout 4 still has it's nuclear charm, have it revealed that the Asian government was experimenting with FEV far before the American Government did, so we still have our Ghouls, a few Supermutants, but not as much as the earlier Fallout games, and of course, Yao Guai panda bears; and the entire cast of other Hostile Mutants too, I would LOVE to see what a heavily mutated Crane Fly looks like, but back to my point, and as a final plot twist to the game, you see the exact moment the bombs detonate and start ravaging the country, and you and your companion and Cheng get caught in it as well; Your goal of eliminating Cheng was accomplished, but you were eliminated in the process.
 
How would the Enclave get there? The vertibirds only exist in prototype form (
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vertibird
) and even if they did already build them, then they would not be able to fly that far because they needed checkpoints built all across the country to refuel them. And like I've said before, the Enclave will have bigger problems than rescuing people from another country. By the way, why do you think that the Enclave would be the good guys, it is very clear that the Pre-war government was corrupt as shit, and their members would probably shoot any Asian person on sight. And the mutant pandas would not work, mutation of this level will take generations to develop, if you wanted my opinion on the "Big Bad Boss" type creature, then it would be a tiger.
 
Well, if Vertibirds are only in prototype form, then maybe a group of Enclave personnel could already be there, in say a sizable group of assassins, maybe?
Maybe the Enclave could be good because you're an important figure of their organization? Think President Kimball or General Oliver for the NCR, and when you finally meet up with the bigger group of Enclave, you can have a moral option as to whether the Enclave could Mass Murder Chinese citizens, or arm them to fight back, or evacuate them.
 
The next villain will be ~a hybrid mutant android with three voices ~named the Calculator. He controls FEV3, and the supermutants; he dominates the region. He is intent on gaining the secrets of castle ~MIT.

The player will have to ally the BOS to the Enclave [by doing favors for both]; to save Humanity... Optionally the PC can upload a virus into the calculator's brain, and allow the android half to turn on him and commit virtual suicide.
 
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The Final dialogs
- I will kill you [FIGHT]
- Who are you ?
- Kill yourself now ! [SPEECH]
- You are a computer that talk [INTELLIGENCE]
- A computer isn't supposed to kill. Let fix this. [REPAIR]
 
The Enclave is DEAD already. Even Bethesda made sure of that. We, or they, will do something different than the Enclave. If the rumors are true and it's going to take place in the "Commonwealth", then I have no doubt the main villain will be from the Institute (if not the Institute itself). Possibly continuing with the "Mad Scientist" ideal that was originally planned for the FO3 villain.
 
BigBoss said:
The Enclave is DEAD already. Even Bethesda made sure of that. We, or they, will do something different than the Enclave. If the rumors are true and it's going to take place in the "Commonwealth", then I have no doubt the main villain will be from the Institute (if not the Institute itself). Possibly continuing with the "Mad Scientist" ideal that was originally planned for the FO3 villain.
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We all know that, and want that; but I doubt they will throw away an asset that the company paid for... it's why they were in FO3... it's why ~everything~ was in FO3; (including bottlecaps).

BlackIsle/Interplay invented it all and could see it come and go when appropriate... but Zenimax bought them, they are going to use them... perhaps indefinitely. IMO the BOS, Enclave, Supermutants and Ghouls, have all out-stayed their plausibility in the setting... but I don't think that they can see past them ~or perhaps they assume their new audience can't.
 
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Tarantulakelurk said:
Well, if Vertibirds are only in prototype form, then maybe a group of Enclave personnel could already be there, in say a sizable group of assassins, maybe?
Maybe the Enclave could be good because you're an important figure of their organization? Think President Kimball or General Oliver for the NCR, and when you finally meet up with the bigger group of Enclave, you can have a moral option as to whether the Enclave could Mass Murder Chinese citizens, or arm them to fight back, or evacuate them.
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That's the bad thing, I like starting out my Fallout games as a nobody, If I have an Enclave death squad protecting me, then I will find the game incredibly boring (since I can just order my squad to obliterate anything that moves) unless you're suggesting for F4 to be a political simulator, where your main goal is to organize the troops after the disarray that the war caused.
If you want glimpses at the past, then it would be cool to have a character who has ties to the past and suffers from flashbacks (not necessarily story related) or have the old world (as the character imagines it) appear in a dream.
 
Enclave bodyguards? Psh, no, watching a bunch of Power Armor clad soldiers with Plasma Rifles chase after one poor Feral Ghoul WOULD make the game boring, but pay attention to what I said earlier: "Sizable group of ASSASSINS"! They were intended to sneak around and shoot and kill Chinese Officers at an opportune time or when no one was looking, but after the FEV mutants broke out, exposing the village they're in to Radiation, they had to go into hiding, and then you could find Chinese Power armor that they could equip so that, in the final battle your friend could lead the charge, absolutely decimating Chinese Soldiers, A la Liberty Prime in Broken Steel, and then just as you're about to finish Cheng, the bombs go off on China, and this could be the point where the president of the Enclave at the time think, "My god...what have I done..?" and THIS marks the point and time where the Enclave become Xenophobic douchebags.
 
Gizmojunk said:
BigBoss said:
The Enclave is DEAD already. Even Bethesda made sure of that. We, or they, will do something different than the Enclave. If the rumors are true and it's going to take place in the "Commonwealth", then I have no doubt the main villain will be from the Institute (if not the Institute itself). Possibly continuing with the "Mad Scientist" ideal that was originally planned for the FO3 villain.
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We all know that, and want that; but I doubt they will throw away an asset that the company paid for... it's why they were in FO3... it's why ~everything~ was in FO3; (including bottlecaps).

BlackIsle/Interplay invented it all and could see it come and go when appropriate... but Zenimax bought them, they are going to use them... perhaps indefinitely. IMO the BOS, Enclave, Supermutants and Ghouls, have all out-stayed their plausibility in the setting... but I don't think that they can see past them ~or perhaps they assume their new audience can't.
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I don't mind ghouls. They are a natural part of the Fallout world. According to the FO bible, some of the devs say that the ghouls were created when people felt a full blast of heat and radiation from the bombs (while others stated the FEV had something to do with it). But Ghouls I don't mind. They've become a natural part of the Fallout world. Even Black Isle reused them, and Obsidian again in NV.
 
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