Why I love Skyrim

CT Phipps said:
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Anyone else find it strange that the guy in the video who is making an ongoing series about Elder Scrolls lore, decided to dedicate the second video to the fifth game in the series? Like, you'd think he'd start with the stuff that comes before as they'd be important leading to factors, but nope, start right at the end and work your way backwards.
 
JO'Geran said:
Anyone else find it strange that the guy in the video who is making an ongoing series about Elder Scrolls lore, decided to dedicate the second video to the fifth game in the series? Like, you'd think he'd start with the stuff that comes before as they'd be important leading to factors, but nope, start right at the end and work your way backwards.
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Amusingly, if I could ever be bothered to write it, I could do my Elder Scrolls Online review.

I.e. The Most Singularly Boring Game Ever Made.

I didn't think after Skyrim you could make a bad Elder Scrolls game but they did it and did it with panache!
 
Hassknecht said:
So, 7/10?
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I was torn between 4/10 and 3/10 for fucking up the Elder Scroll's lore.

I didn't write a review, though, because I couldn't bring myself to finish the game and if you don't finish a game can you really say you're qualified to review it?

I mean, my review would basically be, "It sucks every bit of originality or interesting qualities from the Elder Scroll's universe and makes it even more generic than Oblivion was, which I had serious issues for doing the same thing. The game begins with the most terrifying and Satanic of all Daedric Princes, Molag Bal, as voiced by the Clockwork Orange himself--stealing your soul and somehow makes him seem petty and weak. No character not played by John Cleese has any personality in this story and the majority of Skyrim's protagonists had only a few lines. This game desperately wants to be World of Warcraft instead of Skyrim the MMORPG and fails at both."
 
CT Phipps said:
Amusingly, if I could ever be bothered to write it, I could do my Elder Scrolls Online review.

I.e. The Most Singularly Boring Game Ever Made.

I didn't think after Skyrim you could make a bad Elder Scrolls game but they did it and did it with panache!
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Jesus Christ here's something I agree with you 100% on!

ESO is so fucking boring. I'm glad I bought the non-subscription version, otherwise I'd have felt extremely ripped off by it.
 
Are you really this fucking dense? Or have an extremely low reading comprehension?

Stop misrepresenting what I said!
CT Phipps said:
What I'm saying is Black Angel it's my opinion and you may disagree but don't try and state some kind of weird objective quality that says, "OH MY GOD, YOU ARE WRONG!"

There's not.

I respect you hate Skyrim and have decent reasons for it.
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I'm NOT implying any of those things.

On the contrary, it was YOU who "try and state some kind of weird objective quality".
  1. You said that Skyrim was 'good' because it inaccurately represent settlements with mere two streets and a handful of NPCs
  2. And then you turn around to say how the Witcher 3 was 'bad' because it was too big despite having a more realistic presentation of settlements accurately
'Good' and 'Bad' are objective quality that has to be discussed in an unbiased manner backed with valid arguments, not just simple "I had fun with it!" arguments that's actually subjective.

And do I really, REALLY have to repeat myself, AGAIN?

Black Angel said:
I don't 'hate' the game nor hate the players.

What I hate is when there's someone like you trying to tell me how a game is good, when it's not, and then turn around to say how the ACTUALLY good game in comparison is 'bad'.
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And I believe I've even told you that I had fun with Skyrim, once. Hell, I might even had fun with it again in the future, if only for all the mods.
 
CT Phipps said:
I was torn between 4/10 and 3/10 for fucking up the Elder Scroll's lore.

I didn't write a review, though, because I couldn't bring myself to finish the game and if you don't finish a game can you really say you're qualified to review it?
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Then make a first impressions rating. Not exactly a review but your score based on your first impressions. Kinda like Totalbiscuit except with a score system.

Also, kudos for considering a score that low for such a shitty MMO.
 
CT Phipps said:
Eh, everyone goes through ritual hazing. :)
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Eh? I guess killing a god and single handedly ending a civil war - for either side - while becoming a demi god in the process, should make you really immune to that crap and where they actually pay you some respect. Seriously now, what else could you achieve? At this point you're throwing around Dragon corpses at everyone left and right. Nothing, absolutely nothing the companions throw at you, outside of fucking Akatosh himself, could be a challange to such a person, hell any companion should end up in Sovngarde simply by beeing in your presence! The moment someone at the companions even dares to treat you like a beginer or novice, you would simply punch them in the throat and things could carry on, while they collect their teeth on the ground. But not even that option is there.

But that pretty much describes EVERYTHING in Skyrim (and Oblivion), no matter where you apear, you're always greeted like a nobody, because the world Bethesda creates are worlds carved in plastic not one that actually reacts to what you do.

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Now that I am thinking about, one thing that could really work extremly well, is Skyrim was actually made as some kind of parody on RPGs and AAA gaming in general. THey wouldn't even have to change THAT much, just tweaking the dialog a little, making the game less serious here and there, and done. I think that would be actually pretty enjoyable, toying around witht the damsel in distress and giving the whole game more of a vibe like in Spaceballs. Hell I would definetly play that.
 
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CerberusGate said:
Then make a first impressions rating. Not exactly a review but your score based on your first impressions. Kinda like Totalbiscuit except with a score system.

Also, kudos for considering a score that low for such a shitty MMO.
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I find it amusing being praised for hating a game.

I'm about to give Batman Telltale another try despite how much I hated Episode One.

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You might also like my lowest score ever.

Halo: Guardians.

2/10

http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2016/04/halo-5-guardians-review.html

I don't feel the need to say why I hate most games. I just don't care enough. THAT was a game I needed to say how much I hated. It's the only reason I understand Fallout 3 hate because I know what it is like to have something you love kidnapped and multilated with parts sent back to you.
 
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CT Phipps said:
I find it amusing being praised for hating a game.
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Well if the game deserves hate and it gets said hate for someone, then such hate should be lauded seeing how most people try to sugarcoat and avoid criticizing anything these days.

CT Phipps said:
Halo: Guardians.

2/10

http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2016/04/halo-5-guardians-review.html

I don't feel the need to say why I hate most games. I just don't care enough. THAT was a game I needed to say how much I hated. It's the only reason I understand Fallout 3 hate because I know what it is like to have something you love kidnapped and multilated with parts sent back to you.
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I definitely agree with you on Halo Guardians. It's the worst thing out of Halo ever and effectively killed any interest or liking I ever had for Halo as a whole.
 
CT Phipps said:
Ulfric killed High King Torygg in a honor duel which both accepted beforehand. It goes over like a lead balloon in Solitude where the Old WaysTM are barely remembered and they've been Imperialized but it goes over fine in places like Windhelm where he's not only the ruler but a more fundamentalist streak toward traditions is practiced. It's also a reason why the land is roughly evenly divided as Ulfric's actions are viewed controversally.

The Imperials believe Ulfric murdered Torygg while the Skyrim people, being an earthier sort, believe it was a fair fight over a legitimate grievance. Indeed, as Ulfric mentions, by the old law, he is now the Jarl of Solitude since he won their duel.

He's not the High King, though, because that requires a Kingsmoot.
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Not saying it's dumb, just discussing:
At least I got the impression that it was a pretty even fight, even taking into account that Torygg was a young noble barely experienced in battle, that Ulfric cheated. When it got dangerous, Ulfric just shouted the poor sod's face off.
And he couldn't reject despite himself not being keen on the business (he could have thrown the whole guard on him prolly) becouse him being of Imperial tradition, and although not even technically being supposed to accept, elders and his people would probably have scorned him.

On other news, I finally finished re-modding the game up (had to format the PC) and i'll get some pics :D
Repeat; that is only 10% merit of Bethesda. Modders and the community made this thing immortal.
Nexusmods and Workshop (kinda) are technically Horrocruxes now.
 
I mean ESO is clearly the worst elder scrolls game. I mean I know alot here don't really like skyrim but jeus skyrim is alot bloody better than that boring ESO shit. It like a worse runescape.

I also think the world of GOT is much deeper than skyrim and much more adult. I wish video games could be more like that compeared to skyrim. I also much perfer the world of the witchers aswell. Skyrim world is babyish for me looking back. The civil war seems far to hunky dorey with only who you wanting to die die. You know like maybe you could like lose a battel or something but now. Easy victory and all freinds pull through just fine with no damge or anything. I just think I like my games more grown up now with people actual dying and not becoming god like un killables
 
Arnust said:
Not saying it's dumb, just discussing:
At least I got the impression that it was a pretty even fight, even taking into account that Torygg was a young noble barely experienced in battle, that Ulfric cheated. When it got dangerous, Ulfric just shouted the poor sod's face off.
And he couldn't reject despite himself not being keen on the business (he could have thrown the whole guard on him prolly) becouse him being of Imperial tradition, and although not even technically being supposed to accept, elders and his people would probably have scorned him..
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According to lore, High King Torygg would have had to have forsaken his High Kingship and a new Moot be called if he'd turned down the challenge from Ulfric. I'm not sure the Empire would have been down with that but that's Skyrim law. Ulfric had a bunch of advantages over Torygg, not the least being that he was a seasoned veteran while Torygg had never fought outside of a practice arena. However, Ulfric actually killed him with the Thume because he wanted to make a statement. So he disarmed him with the Disarm Shout and knocked him over before stabbing him on the ground.

If you meet with Torygg in Sovangarde, he says that he doesn't really regret doing what he did because he died like a True Nord but Ulfric...not so much.

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The irony, according to everyone but Elisif, was that Torygg greatly admired Ulfric and was a devout worshiper of Talos--he would have roused the kingdom behind Ulfric as his general but Ulfric wanted to be the High King himself.
 
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CT Phipps said:
I'm curious what your issues are with the actual story and lore.
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Alduin is the single most one sided villain ever.

A slightly powerful dragon, that wants to eat the world, is honestly the most boring writing I'ev ever seen. It's not even slightly creative. It's a classic world-destroying villain, but with no variation at all, just literally being a world-destroying villain.

The whole Dragonborn plotline is also so boring "You have these amazing powers, possibly gifted to you by a God. Instead of doing any exploration in to what it means to be a legendary hero, we're just going to use it as a throwaway excuse to be an ultra-badass, and never explore in to the implications of it."

They also made this whole Thalmor making Talos worship illegal thing, but never explored whether Tiber Septim should be treated as a God, or ever made a compelling case on either side, or even what the use in worshipping that one specific God is. It's a whole unexplored plot line.

They create these cool ideas, and never try for a minute to explore there implications, just leaving them as boring half-arsed ideas. There's never any discussion of anything they write.
 
I actually really enjoyed Skyrim, but I agree with a lot of the criticisms against the game. I like the idea of making my own character and going off on my own adventures, which has really been the strongest point to the Elder Scrolls series. I can ignore the flaws and have a blast with this game, but I definitely understand why some can't. In either case, Elder Scrolls needs a change in trajectory with finer written quests, better dialog, and more reactivity in the world based on your actions and choices.
 
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