Xbox One vs PS4 What Console Is Better?

Well I have to order most of games from Amazon, both for console and PC the variety in retailers here in colombia is awful; I could never find Persona 4 Golden or Ultimax anywhere (I was once told by some dude in a game store that "They haven't released any PC games in 5 years" so they also hire completely ignorant people too). So to me buying games in a store is a horrible experience and waiting 1 week for the game to get here is not so hot so an 8 hour download is not so bad in comparison.
 
Walpknut said:
Well I have to order most of games from Amazon, both for console and PC the variety in retailers here in colombia is awful; I could never find Persona 4 Golden or Ultimax anywhere (I was once told by some dude in a game store that "They haven't released any PC games in 5 years" so they also hire completely ignorant people too). So to me buying games in a store is a horrible experience and waiting 1 week for the game to get here is not so hot so an 8 hour download is not so bad in comparison.
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I think my concern comes with games like GTA 5 being over 50 gigs. It would take me over a week to download something like that, probably two really. So while indie titles can easily be downloaded, the really big AAA games are a little out of my connections capabilities. Amazon really is the way to go anyway. I still need to go to Gamestop and pick up one of those Ness Amiibo's.

Which brings another point. I think the WiiU should be considered as a supplement to the PS4 or Xbox One. It should be mentioned at least. Of course they have 0 third party support which is a shame. Which if you look at their history has been a common theme off and on.

Exclusives make or break a console/pc. It comes down to personal preference as far as your preferred genre too. No one will buy a WiiU for FPS games. Certain fighting game communities gravitate towards certain platforms. If you like indies then Steam will usually have most of the ones that are available on other consoles. If you want to play the latest strategy games then a PC is mandatory. You can't get Total War on a PS4. Now you can't even get Xcom. But you can get Wasteland 2..which doesn't make sense. I wonder how big the market will be for that? :confused:
 
TorontRayne said:
I think my concern comes with games like GTA 5 being over 50 gigs.
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Man, I forgot about this... this was what settled the issue for me, as in, I went and bought the PS just days after learning about that

GTA4 did the same thing to me, but on my previous computer, which was considerably smaller than this one. I'm not really a very wealthy guy, so I can't really buy tons of hardware all the time, so... being a big GTA fan, I had to sacrifice a lot of other games to fit GTA4.

GTA5 just raised the bar, significantly... it woulda been like, my ONE game or something... :I no more disk-space
 
Wouldn't it be more economic to buy an external hard drive or update the internal one and buy the game than buying the PS4+game?

I am not into GTA so that bit doesn't really affect me, altho it does make me do a double take that a game would 90gb... that's kind of ridiculous.
 
Walpknut said:
Wouldn't it be more economic to buy an external hard drive or update the internal one and buy the game than buying the PS4+game?

I am not into GTA so that bit doesn't really affect me, altho it does make me do a double take that a game would 90gb... that's kind of ridiculous.
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I don't play a lot of games, so I figured I'd just get the console, get some games, and then have the oportunity to play at least a handful of games max-graph for years to come. I am unlikely to bother to buy a new console.

I would also have had to upgrade a lot more, such as the GPU and such, which would come to such a price that I'd be better off buying a new computer - which costs more than a PS.

I'm usually on used computers, so, not a lot of GPU luxury, I've typically had to set most games to bottom graphics. The PC I have now is brand new, I bought it off my brothers who decided to upgrade his right away (chasing the modernity-dragon). At the time I could run most recent games, for example Skyrim and FONV run flawlessly on it - but allready it is falling behind the latest games - and falling behind fast.
It's refreshing to not have to worry about it.
 
zegh8578 said:
TorontRayne said:
I think my concern comes with games like GTA 5 being over 50 gigs.
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Man, I forgot about this... this was what settled the issue for me, as in, I went and bought the PS just days after learning about that

GTA4 did the same thing to me, but on my previous computer, which was considerably smaller than this one. I'm not really a very wealthy guy, so I can't really buy tons of hardware all the time, so... being a big GTA fan, I had to sacrifice a lot of other games to fit GTA4.

GTA5 just raised the bar, significantly... it woulda been like, my ONE game or something... :I no more disk-space
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I think part of the problem is compression. But it's just what I remember ... so I could be wrong. Though often enough games which get ported to the PC from the console simply don't do the compression right or something like that, so some games end up with 10-15 gigabite while others with 50 ... even though it could have been much less.
 
Arkham Knight was 50 gigs too, and it didn't even have High Res textures. That port was such a mess you kind of wonder how a AAA developer could even think for a second that people would be okay with it. Specially a group such as the PC communty who are far more anal about those kind of things.
 
Walpknut said:
Well Amazon still sells physical PC discs.
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That need an online activation and in some cases a good chunk of the game downloaded from the net anyway.

Altho game updates and patches are no longer a PC thing, the AAA industry has become quite fond of them recently.
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You certainly need to be more careful nowadays but thankfully most games don't ship like AssCreed:Unity. I own ten PS4 games and the only one that absolutely needed the patch was The Evil Within.
 
TheWesDude said:
Battlecross said:
Technically the PS4 is better, but I got an Xbox one due to absolutely no one I know getting one. I did want a PS4 for Bloodborne and MLB the Show and the like though.

Walpknut said:
Because people have gotten in their heads that it is somehow more "convenient".
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They are, and easier to deal with for the life of the machine. Every game made for it until the day they stop will work on it, not the case on PC. I have games I can't play on the PC, or need DOSBox, or need massive tweaks to even work (FO3). Not to mention the need for better hardware as time goes by, won't be a problem on console.

Many people with a console have PC as well anyway.
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there is a huge flaw with your logic.

if you "need" dosbox to play that game, by definition it was not made for the "current gen" of computers.

what you are actually doing is complaining "i need a piece of free software to play these Genesis, PS 1, and PS 2 games on my PS 4."
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What? I don't think you understood what I said at all and twisted it totally. I said with a current console, all games made for that console will work. PC games may not and will not even within the same "generation" (doesn't exist for PCs) and require upgrades. Plus all you did was point out one part of many, and that isn't a "huge flaw in logic" by any means. Many games won't work within the same generation due to needed hardware upgrades, so this makes consoles easier to own. This is a fact that isn't in dispute unless you got upset by some perceived slight against the PC or something.

Please read properly next time, seeing as I wasn't complaining considering I'm both a PC and a console gamer.

Walpknut said:
Nintendo games aren't really that incredible nowadays anyway, and the better ones are on 3DS which is considerably cheaper than a console.
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Like what? Smash Brothers is vastly inferior on 3DS.

Stanislao Moulinsky said:
Walpknut said:
Well Amazon still sells physical PC discs.
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That need an online activation and in some cases a good chunk of the game downloaded from the net anyway.

Altho game updates and patches are no longer a PC thing, the AAA industry has become quite fond of them recently.
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You certainly need to be more careful nowadays but thankfully most games don't ship like AssCreed:Unity. I own ten PS4 games and the only one that absolutely needed the patch was The Evil Within.
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Bloodborne sure needed that patch, the loading times were atrocious.
 
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Never been that much a fan of Super Smash and the new one doesn't even have a dedicated story mode so it's kind of meh to me regardless of platform.

The 3DS has the new Firem Emblems, Shin Megami Tensei 4, the Pokeymans, Ace Attorney 5, Ace Attorn X Professor Layton, Bravely Default, Code Name Steam, Dokey Kong Country Returns...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games

Too Bad Nintendo has yet to catch up to the 21st centruy and is still region locking games..... If they want money they should sell Inazuma Eleven in Latino America, people here are crazy for Football.
 
Walpknut said:
Never been that much a fan of Super Smash and the new one doesn't even have a dedicated story mode so it's kind of meh to me regardless of platform.

The 3DS has the new Firem Emblems, Shin Megami Tensei 4, the Pokeymans, Ace Attorney 5, Ace Attorn X Professor Layton, Bravely Default, Code Name Steam, Dokey Kong Country Returns...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games

Too Bad Nintendo has yet to catch up to the 21st centruy and is still region locking games..... If they want money they should sell Inazuma Eleven in Latino America, people here are crazy for Football.
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How is Fire Emblem? I heard it had some crappy romance stuff recently?
 
Wel lthe combat is good, ithas perma death and such.
The romance thing is a mechanic Akin to Persona's Social Links, you do them to get bonuses and with some character it turns into a romance or just a freindship, not only your player character engages on it, you can get the other units to mingle with each other and they have their own sequences, and with some it even has a STORY effect later on the story (which is kind of a spoiler).
 
I never played Final Fantasy Tactics, so I can't answer that one, but here, judge for yourself:

 
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Yeah, I don't think that is for me. It's pretty hard to top Final Fantasy Tactics combat wise. I would recommend it if you are a fan of the genre. Thanks for the info.
 
What I can tell you is:

-It has multiple unit classes with their own advantages and weaknesses, Pegasi Riders have a huge moving range while being failry fragile, Thieves are the only ones that can unlock chests and such.
-You can pair up 2 units in combat, one acts as support and the other as the fighter, this turns them into a single unit altho with higher ranks of the "social link" type of feature the support unit might defend from an attack or provide an extra hit in combat.
-You can also use the mas separate Units but keeping them close to each other to have similar effects but that can lead to some fragile units being too exposed.
-You can change class of every unit, even the protagonist and the player character, doing that and leveling them up gives them access to different skills, repeatedly doing this before a CERTAIn point of the game actually nets you some rather nifty rewards if you complete one of the social links in a romance with said units.
-Of course Death is Permanent, the protagonist or Player character dying nets you an instant game over and yo ucan't save in the middle of combat.
-Elemental Spells and Weapon Types have a Rock paper scissors dynamic to them.
-Weapons and Spells have limited uses.
 
Not really, you do play as Nightwing, Robin, Catwoman and Azrael in the main story (I have been watching YT playthroughs) so it stands to reason that they would be fully programmed. Harley Quinn and Red Hood are another story as they were pre order bonuses so this jackasses are blocking off content that is already on the disc unless you buy it from a specific store before reviews are even out. They did not include ANY challenge maps for the other characters and the challenge maps present in the game are very few, fewer than in any of the other Arkham Games so it's obvious they are gonna be selling those by the boatload. 40 Dollars DLC on day 1. Amazing.

Still it could be worse, it could be Destiny and it's 80dollars editions that force people to rebuy the game twice just to get content.
 
Walpknut said:
Still it could be worse, it could be Destiny and it's 80dollars editions that force people to rebuy the game twice just to get content.
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Like comparing shit to vomit. Mortal Kombat X is something along those lines as well. Don't get me wrong. I'll still buy MK X and Arkham Knight. It might take a long time though.
 
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