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It Wandered In From the Wastes

In case it was not obvious, I came across this one while browsing my feed.
If you don't like Bethesda's Fallout, don't play it.
Whoever wrote this is really insecure and jerked himself off in High School instead of developing a logical brain.I don't. Still gonna shit on them.![]()
and then:Don’t gripe about your worthless opinions on this subreddit.
all in the same post.This subreddit is for ALL fans, we don’t want to hear all of your complaints.
If you wanna see some fallacious reasoning from a literal human spider, check out this redditor in particular. She frequents r/Fallout and is on a relentless crusade to make Bethesda Fallouts look like a gift from Heaven while invalidating the older games based off non obvious humor or jokes.I find it funnier that they take issue with complaints about certain aspects of some of the games or just certain games but then also says to quit making decades-old games your entire personality. But if you take so much issue with complaints about the games you like, isn't that making them too much of your personality? If you can't handle criticisms of games you like, it's probably because you identify yourself with your enjoyment of them too much.
Every one of these games has their own issues which should be subject to scrutiny. Sure, it's annoying when it's illogical/unreasonable shit like aping on about small changes in Fallout 4 instead of things like Super Mutants still being everywhere or how horribly written it is.
I checked out of sheer curiosity and burst out laughing when they claimed they liked story and writing and yet say the writing in Fallout 3 and 4 is good, and New Vegas and Fallout 2's writing is bad.
Yeah, glad you got some amusement out of it.I checked out of sheer curiosity and burst out laughing when they claimed they liked story and writing and yet say the writing in Fallout 3 and 4 is good, and New Vegas and Fallout 2's writing is bad.
Fallout 2 even at its worst in terms of writing is far above 3 and 4. And when it comes to New Vegas, just the intro and Goodsprings is better than 3 and 4 combined. Comparing the rest of New Vegas's writing with 3 and 4 is not fair since it will just makes the latter two look even worse.
If this is how the Fallout Reddit is in general, glad i'm not part of it.
Years of discussion with Bethesda apologists has really made me wonder what exactly they take "contrivance" to meanThe Fallout sub is a rotating wheel of various circlejerks followed by fanbase victim complexes and then the new circlejerk, et cetera. I got downvoted pretty heavily because I said I thought that the explanation for Bottlecaps in Fallout 76 was pretty contrived for brand iconography, someone said "It's not contrived at all" and I just simply responded "And I think it is. It's my opinion, equally as valid as yours" and I was downvoted massively for something as benign as that. On a different day I would have been upvoted.
Place is a mess.
Years of discussion with Bethesda apologists has really made me wonder what exactly they take "contrivance" to mean
The logic as I've seen is as long as it's explained in any possible form then it can't be bad because it's canon. It's a really really bizarre way of looking at things.
I see this attitude a lot, where a consoomer seems incapable of acknowledging creative decisions *behind* their fiction. It is as if their favorite fiction - or their relationship to it is SO fragile, any reminder that it IS fiction will cause a mental meltdown.
Protagonist A can never be a product of bad writing - ONLY a product of their own fictional decisionmaking within the fictional narrative. Any contrivance is ONLY evidence of a character's poor decisionmaking, and NEVER a reflection of ANY creative process BEHIND their favorite creative product. It would have been fascinating, if it wasn't so fucking boring and pathetic.
I had a discussion with someone about Marvel's What If, where I didn't like the premise of the episode that T'Challa being abducted into being Star Lord instead of Peter Quill as a kid would result in a hyper-intelligent morally upstanding hyper-competent Star Lord. I suggested that basically T'Challa would have had the same shitty space pirate upbringing as Quill and without the education, culture and family in Wakanda would have ended up probably pretty similar in terms of being a spacefaring lowlife.
The ensuing conversation was basically the "Patrick and the wallet" scene from SpongeBob:
"Yeah but in the episode we see that T'Challa ends up way better than Quill"
"yeah but I'm saying that's misaligned writing, he wouldn't have ended up the same as he is in Black Panther"
"yeah but that's what happens. In the episode."
"Yes, and they could have written it differently"
"But they didn't, that's how it turns out if T'Challa is abducted"