A possible Fallout 3 remaster?

[MasterworkStone]

How would everyone feel about a Fallout 1 2 & 3 remastered collection?
The three games remastered and playable as both isometric turn-based and first person shooters.

 

[Lexx]

That would be top level cancer. Might as well turn them into some kind of anime thing while we're at it.

 

[R.Graves]

What's the point if remastering a PC game? As I understand it the entire point of remaster is to make a game or games more easily accessible to console users but as every PC game is easily available to anyone with a PC what's the point? Also making them playable in first person would require a literal ground up remake.

 

[Risewild]

That would be top level cancer. Might as well turn them into some kind of anime thing while we're at it.

 

[Gizmojunk]

Well... there is a case for remastering being done to visually improve the overall appearance of the game; in some cases to improve upon assets that were limited for the target system specs of the game.

Homeworld and Die By The Sword are good example, because the originals shipped with crude 3D models, and software renderers. With the advent popularity of dedicated GPU systems, the games could get an updated look that makes good use of the expanded features of the new platform.

Fallout was at one point considered and researched to use polygonal 3D assets, but they couldn't get the performance they needed out of the target machines; but imagine now if they could re-release it using the original 3D assets (or closely derived) instead of rendered sprite copies. The figures, the talking heads, everything could then take advantage of dynamic lighting and animation.

Think about an Obsidian remastered Fallout 1 & 2 done like this:


Krome Studios did a top-notch remastering of the Bard's Tale Trilogy; in Unity 3D.

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Microsoft/Bungie did the same for Halo Combat Evolved:

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What I didn't like about the Homeworld remaster, was that they tampered with the gameplay; (that's a no no IMO) but visually it looks superb. The voice work didn't really need to be redone, and they did not surpass it.

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[Lexx]

As I understand it the entire point of remaster is to make a game or games more easily accessible to console users

That's so very wrong.

 

[Jonsson]

Homeworld and Die By The Sword are good example, because the originals shipped with crude 3D models, and software renderers. With the advent popularity of dedicated GPU systems, the games could get an updated look that makes good use of the expanded features of the new platform

There's a remaster of Die By The Sword? Where!?

 

[Gizmojunk]

It's a good example of needing one... But there isn't one.

*There is a script mod to support the Wii remote in the original Die By The Sword though... That is pretty cool.

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[R.Graves]

That's so very wrong.

How is that wrong? The one major benefits of a remaster/rerelease to consumers is that the item is now more easily accessible. Seeing as PC games are already easily accessible and a visual update is pointless due to mods then the primary benefit is accessibility to console users.

 

[Lexx]

No. The point of a (good) remaster is to update the game to modern systems. Visually, mechanically, bugfixes, changing things that weren't so good in the original. This has nothing to do with making a game "more easily accessible" or dumbing it down for consoles.

 

[Cobra Commander]

No. The point of a (good) remaster is to update the game to modern systems. Visually, mechanically, bugfixes, changing things that weren't so good in the original. This has nothing to do with making a game "more easily accessible" or dumbing it down for consoles.

Indeed.

Months ago I buy Desperados 1 and 2 in steam. I can't play 1, it just dont run in win10.

There also the visual aspect either. Like Gizmo show, the Halo CE remaster is amazing. And even have some extra things that adds to the lore (trully, not like fallout 4 lol)

 

[R.Graves]

No. The point of a (good) remaster is to update the game to modern systems. Visually, mechanically, bugfixes, changing things that weren't so good in the original. This has nothing to do with making a game "more easily accessible" or dumbing it down for consoles.

See that just sounds like paid mods from a PC perspective. And it literally would be in fallout 3's case.

 

[TorontoReign]

Nah. Surf Solar lives in Germany, where Lexx doesn't have any legal troubles with his Shattered Destiny TC, and Czechia is not some out-of-reach lawless thirld world country either.

Surf Solar was too busy fucking whores to make the mod last I heard. Nothing to do with Zenimax/Bethesda. For the record Scrolls does sound like Elder Scrolls shit, and I think they later made some shitty card game, but I'm old and don't know what I am talking about.

 

[Lexx]

See that just sounds like paid mods from a PC perspective. And it literally would be in fallout 3's case.

The quality of most mods is all over the place and more often than not questionable at best. If we're taking FNV as example - I'd rather play vanilla than use any of the thousand shitty ENB mods... Or the ones that add 4k textures for the tiniest scenery objects, heh.

 

[mef]

If it was a Fallout 3 remake, I don't think they would have let the modders make it at the same time

 

[Black Angel]

See that just sounds like paid mods from a PC perspective. And it literally would be in fallout 3's case.

Final Fantasy XII: Zodiac Age is a prime example that I can provide to Lexx's argument. The original doesn't have a PC release, and some of the mechanics are rather bad. Zodiac Age release fixed all that, not only bringing it to current generation console but also finally introduce it to PC audience.

 

[FearMonkey]

I'm LTTP on this, I guess, but remastering the graphics in that game would be useless without remastering the writing first.

 

[Nirv]

what if it's a fucking fallout 1 remaster jesus

that would be horrifying

 

[.Pixote.]

The only way to remaster F1 and F2 would to be rebuild them entirely in a 3D engine, designed to resemble the originals accurately. Won't happen...it's better just to enjoy the games as is. Is Windows 10 friendly to Fallout 1 and 2?

 

[Nirv]

The only way to remaster F1 and F2 would to be rebuild them entirely in a 3D engine, designed to resemble the originals accurately. Won't happen...it's better just to enjoy the games as is. Is Windows 10 friendly to Fallout 1 and 2?

looking into it more, there's basically no chance that it's a fallout 1 remaster. the countdown is for december 31st, 2019 right? that's too little time since fallout 76 for them to do a fallout 1 remake when they'd have to do a lot of new voice acting and put a lot of thought into how the gameplay is going to work. i severely doubt they had this in-progress prior to 76's announcement; this is most likely something new they're doing since 76 was a failure and they still need something to pad out time until starfield.

fallout 3 and new vegas would be significantly easier to do since the gameplay is more similar and they can re-use all the voice acting. all they would need to consider gameplay-wise really is how they'd want to implement the fallout 4 settlement system, whether or not to include skills, whether or not to use the old or new perk system, etc.

if it's a new vegas remaster and it stays true to the original, i'll probably buy it. i have no qualms buying bethesda games as long as they're actually good.

if it's a fallout 3 remaster, i probably will not buy it since i do not really like fallout 3. i would be curious though because i would wonder how it compares to the original and how they decided to mesh the gameplay systems of three and four.