SpecialHands
First time out of the vault
Even Slovakia has it
A video on the Brexit and why the UK should leave.
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First time out of the vault
Even Slovakia has it
Dr Fallout
Centurion
It's sad and embarrassing.
I do like that out of solidarity the english national team also left the European Championship.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Good show from them, means they won't have beaten badly.
Yeah, at least they made it to the last sixteen. Speaking of leaving, Germany gets Italy next, so it's likely that we'll be out, too.
Dr Fallout
Centurion
Germany beat Brazil last year though...
DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
1. Not bringing back the SU per say, as in communism. I am saying Putin wouldn't mind being a juggernaut that the SU was. So yea, shit like the Holodmore was total bullshit right? Didn't happen. The SU was always a nice brother and any negativity is evil western propaganda, whateva.
2. Exactly, FOR NOW. So you admit he wants to bring the ex-soviet satellite states back into the fold correct, most likely by coercion as some have already joined NATO.
3. I think we agree here. It isn't about how much each has. My whole point was Putin would like nothing more than to expand.
4. Agree to disagree but I do not believe pairing poor soldiers with modern weapons is an effective.
5. I am talking about geo-political maneuvering, not body counts here. Obama has neither the will nor skill to effectively counter Russian and Chinese ambitions. Whether by soft or hard power, he has still failed on the issue of re-assuring our allies we would not abandon them.
6. Again we agree. China is expanding. That certainly isn't good for Japan or Taiwan though. Lastly, if I were to argue from a liberals point of view, two wrongs do not make a right. Either way, both Russia and China are no different than the U.S.
Cause universal healthcare is so easy to agree on with a population of 280 million. Not to mention, as I have repeatedly stated, we have vastly different cultures, the most glaring differences being gun ownership, distrust of big government, etc.
It is free shit when you tax everyone for a service that only a select few qualify for. You do know in the states right now, making as much over $14,000, or even less in some states, a year, means you are too rich to qualify for benefits right? A system so shitty that it literally, encourages poor performance.
2. Exactly, FOR NOW. So you admit he wants to bring the ex-soviet satellite states back into the fold correct, most likely by coercion as some have already joined NATO.
3. I think we agree here. It isn't about how much each has. My whole point was Putin would like nothing more than to expand.
4. Agree to disagree but I do not believe pairing poor soldiers with modern weapons is an effective.
5. I am talking about geo-political maneuvering, not body counts here. Obama has neither the will nor skill to effectively counter Russian and Chinese ambitions. Whether by soft or hard power, he has still failed on the issue of re-assuring our allies we would not abandon them.
6. Again we agree. China is expanding. That certainly isn't good for Japan or Taiwan though. Lastly, if I were to argue from a liberals point of view, two wrongs do not make a right. Either way, both Russia and China are no different than the U.S.
Cause universal healthcare is so easy to agree on with a population of 280 million. Not to mention, as I have repeatedly stated, we have vastly different cultures, the most glaring differences being gun ownership, distrust of big government, etc.
It is free shit when you tax everyone for a service that only a select few qualify for. You do know in the states right now, making as much over $14,000, or even less in some states, a year, means you are too rich to qualify for benefits right? A system so shitty that it literally, encourages poor performance.
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Dr Fallout
Centurion
China has a population of around 1.3 billion and it has universal healthcare.
SpecialHands
First time out of the vault
Who are you replying to?
But they've never beat Italy in the EC. Or any tournament match. Maybe it's a first... But Germany didn't really play all that great so far.
Anyway, I think there are interesting times coming. Maybe the UK will now join Schengen to make up for the travel.
valcik
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Could you write down these drawbacks of EU, in form of brief bullet points perhaps, please? Thanks in advance, I'm genuinely curious what's being considered wrong about EU by folks living outside of it.
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New deal about UK participation in European single market would be the most interesting part, since one of the conditions for participating is free movement of labour force between both sides. Anti-EU immigration was one of the main arguments on brexiters' side, so this might be funny..
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DarkCorp
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
First of all, the PRC is still very much an authoritarian government. It is nothing like the democracy in the west. Government says it is going to do something, it is going to do it.
Second, the Chinese health service is still suffering from lack of equipment, trained medical technicians and experts, bureaucratic in-efficiency. My father has gone back and said prices are overall cheaper, but things are slowly changing. Most things are not covered as China continues to move towards a market oriented system. The coverage has been reduced significantly than during the times of Mao. But then again, quality of treatment wasn't very good back then either sooo.
Now I only read about the NHS from the net but supposedly, treatment is covered but you neither choose your time of appointment or the location of where you need to go. Pretty much the hospital says this time and this place and that's it. In the U.S., we like our choices. We like choosing when to go and which physician treats me and my family. If we are un-happy, we can change to a different physician.
Anyone in the U.K., if I am wrong feel free to correct me.
Lastly, specialists are either completely or very often not covered by the Chinese health service. Most people, like in the U.S., can afford to pay for basic needs like a cold, checkup, etc. It is the serious cases that people need help, the most EXPENSIVE and usually LONG TERM treatment like Cancer, AIDS, serious surgery, etc.
Second, the Chinese health service is still suffering from lack of equipment, trained medical technicians and experts, bureaucratic in-efficiency. My father has gone back and said prices are overall cheaper, but things are slowly changing. Most things are not covered as China continues to move towards a market oriented system. The coverage has been reduced significantly than during the times of Mao. But then again, quality of treatment wasn't very good back then either sooo.
Now I only read about the NHS from the net but supposedly, treatment is covered but you neither choose your time of appointment or the location of where you need to go. Pretty much the hospital says this time and this place and that's it. In the U.S., we like our choices. We like choosing when to go and which physician treats me and my family. If we are un-happy, we can change to a different physician.
Anyone in the U.K., if I am wrong feel free to correct me.
Lastly, specialists are either completely or very often not covered by the Chinese health service. Most people, like in the U.S., can afford to pay for basic needs like a cold, checkup, etc. It is the serious cases that people need help, the most EXPENSIVE and usually LONG TERM treatment like Cancer, AIDS, serious surgery, etc.
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
Well...we have appointments. They'll have certain times they can and can't do and they ask out of that what's best for you. If a place is fully booked for the day they might recommend another GP, but usually you just go to the place closest to you. And just because we have the NHS doesn't mean we don't have private healthcare. I'm not sure how being private would change how an appointment system works.
I heard quite a few people bitching about how Erasmus and Work&Travel and students exchange are now all over because UK leaving the EU. But last time I checked EVERY SINGLE FUCKING HIPSTER went to Australia for a year or so without any trouble. Student exchange with the US was also never much of a problem.
Hell, our university has tons of chinese students here as well (got a chinese master's student right now).
Honestly, besides the UK probably getting buttfucked economically for a few years I don't really see the much-lamented "death of the European Idea" and whatever.
And I'm really confused about whom I have to hate right now. Old people, dumb people, racists/white people, young people, Merkel? Apparently everyone's to blame (and if someone in the media noticed that they'd finally be right about something)...
Hell, our university has tons of chinese students here as well (got a chinese master's student right now).
Honestly, besides the UK probably getting buttfucked economically for a few years I don't really see the much-lamented "death of the European Idea" and whatever.
And I'm really confused about whom I have to hate right now. Old people, dumb people, racists/white people, young people, Merkel? Apparently everyone's to blame (and if someone in the media noticed that they'd finally be right about something)...
Earth
Vault Senior Citizen
I think if everyone shares some of the blame then we'll all get over it quicker.
SpecialHands
First time out of the vault
Well, you pick your own GP and Dentist, Hospital visits are usually just the one closest to you. There's a lot of "well would 3 weeks be good?" "Oh? Ok, we have a spot on the 28th if that helps?" type conversations. If it's serious they usually just rush you in and get you seen to as soon as physically possible.
we also pay barely anything for medication
MutantScalper
Dogmeat
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/27/europe/racist-attacks-post-brexit/
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...t-abuse-home-town_uk_57712563e4b08d2c563999fd
The links about Finns are in Finnish, I can post those too if you want. Corbyn has appealed for the UK government to act swiftly against these racist attacks in the UK.
Izak
I Shot The ALBATROSS
Poor Poles, for whatever reason racist European organisations always fuck with them.CNN said:
MutantScalper
Dogmeat
Yes, "Polish vermin". The thing is, I am not very smart, or wise or diplomatically savy so I am having trouble comprehending this new message from the pro-Brexit crowd. I wonder if Vergil or someone else here could elaborate what exactly is meant with "Polish vermin" and the other similar expressions and acts of violence now prevalent in the UK.
Here's a Farage video for all you Nigel-fans.
Here's a Farage video for all you Nigel-fans.
I also found those reports of sudden racism kinda weird. It just strikes me as odd that suddenly people feel the need to go out and be racist again just because of Brexit. I feel bad that I wouldn't be surprised if #postrefracism or whatever would turn out to be another orchestrated social media campaign.
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