Anyone else think this whole 'Synth' thing has gone too far?

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If there was something you said that had proof to back it up, I backed off and said you were right, now didn't I? There were a lot of things I said however that you couldn't back up proof of. You call me ignorant when it comes to science, medicine, etc, but if I'm so ignorant then why did you have such a hard time refuting my arguments, to the point where it went on for 2 pages? You can't just call someone ignorant on matters when it comes to an argument you didn't even finish, and then say you didn't finish it because of circlejerk. I never claimed to be an authority on the subject of AI, science, or anything like that. I'm getting a BA in English ffs, but I know how Fallout 4 represents the Institute, the Synths, and why it's all terribly contrived. This has nothing to do with real world medicine, science, biophysics, and so forth, it's about a video game. And in this particular video game, the Institute makes no sense. That's all there is to it really.

 

[olestra]

God, this place is miserable.

 

[Earth]

God, this place is miserable.

...

WELCOME TO NMA!!!!!

 

[Izak]

God, this place is miserable.

nuh-uh

 

[Millim]

I never found Synths to be a problem, we always had robots in this series so it make sense that a company who were working on them for over 200 years to get to the point where they are out now.
I wish they had done something different with them rather than make the plot a typical "Oh, these people are bad."

Under the right context, anything could work, but given that Bethesda just like to throw ideas with little to no substance, it doesn't suprise me people think it doesn't fit in a Fallout Universe.

 

[olestra]

I'm not new--well, coming back and posting, yes. To nma, fallout, disappointment, not new. Thanks anyway though.

 

[Millim]

Why shouldn't we be miserable?
We live in a World where Bethesda had made a more profitable Fallout game than Obsidian.
There's nothing to be happy about.

 

[olestra]

I never found Synths to be a problem, we always had robots in this series so it make sense that a company who were working on them for over 200 years to get to the point where they are out now.
I wish they had done something different with them rather than make the plot a typical "Oh, these people are bad."

Under the right context, anything could work, but given that Bethesda just like to throw ideas with little to no substance, it doesn't suprise me people think it doesn't fit in a Fallout Universe.

I'm with Deacon. I'd do a synth. I bet they're cat people too. There would be no more cat meat being sold in the Commonwealth with me and my SYNTHETIC LIFE PARTNER roaming the dreary plains.

 

[Izak]

Why shouldn't we be miserable?
We live in a World where Bethesda had made a more profitable Fallout game than Obsidian.
There's nothing to be happy about.

Well just a year ago we lived in a world where Obsidian had made a more profitable Fallout game then Bethesda, now we live in a world where everybody wants Obsidian to make another Fallout game, we've done alright, all and all.

 

[Millim]

Well just a year ago we lived in a world where Obsidian had made a more profitable Fallout game then Bethesda, now we live in a world where everybody wants Obsidian to make another Fallout game, we've done alright, all and all.

And yet Bethesda are so far up their own ass they won't let Obsidian do it.
Because Bethesda is perfect and Todd Howard is a God. We peasents shall not need a better story when we have "Daddy finding Son."

May Godd Howard be with us all.

Lets prey for Todd.

 

[olestra]

The way J E Sawyer sounded like he had enough. For the guy who wrote the fallout bible to say "this game wasn't my time anyway"--if I'm recalling what he said correctly--sounds pretty bleak in terms of him wanting Obsidian being ripped off again.

 

[Izak]

The way J E Sawyer sounded like he had enough. For the guy who wrote the fallout bible to say "this game wasn't my time anyway"--if I'm recalling what he said correctly--sounds pretty bleak in terms of him wanting Obsidian being ripped off again.

Where did you get the idea that they didn't want to do another one?
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...-writer-ups-hype-new-fallout-game-vegas-2.htm
http://gamerant.com/fallout-new-vegas-2-obsidian/
New Vegas was the game that made Obsidian a well known company and, now that they're in a relatively stable position, business wise, it wouldn't be as much of a risk.

 

[olestra]

Like I think it's bad, but I mean, what's happened with Fallout, Caen's hoarding the IP, none of this has ever been new. So, I guess New Vegas must really have picked up a lot of new players. I guess I just can't engage current vidya banter and like a hundred comic book guys from the simpsons shitting on each other anymore than I can engage drooling fanppls telling me my problems even running the game are all me. I still liked the forums better when people gave up, mulled over fan canon, actual canon, the aphex twin inspired soundtrack, realising Fallout was likely never going to replicated...

 

[olestra]

Where did you get the idea that they didn't want to do another one?
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...-writer-ups-hype-new-fallout-game-vegas-2.htm
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-new-vegas-dev-interested-in-doing-fallout-/1100-6434006/
http://www.gamezone.com/news/obsidi...rested-in-making-another-fallout-game-3432575
New Vegas was the game that made Obsidian a well known company and, now that they're in a relatively stable position, business wise, it wouldn't be as much of a risk.

You have three links, so I'll check. IIRC it was only one guy saying "we're always interested in doing another fallout", Sawyer being lukewarm AT BEST, and Avellone long gone.

 

[Izak]

You have three links, so I'll check. IIRC it was only one guy saying "we're always interested in doing another fallout", Sawyer being lukewarm AT BEST, and Avellone long gone.

Sorry, I didn't bother reading the articles, the second one's been replaced by the CEO of Obsidian saying he'd like to make another Fallout and, I think Avellone or Sawyer said something to the same effect once upon a time.

 

[Brahmin Noodles]

Sorry, I didn't bother reading the articles, the second one's been replaced by the CEO of Obsidian saying he'd like to make another Fallout and, I think Avellone said something to the same effect once upon a time.

Too bad Bethesda's ego is too big for them to let Obsidian make another Fallout.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Yeah I also miss the old Fallout discussions compared to the new ones.
Sure, some people sounded like they had a plate in their head or a very dense skull but there was not much utter hate or despising people or a development studio. (well the makers of FOBOS of course and to a smaller extend Microforte but I still like Tactics)

Now we are divided in groups who want that the Fallout franchise stuck to initial concept ideas and the spirit from which these came and people who go along with the flow and think we are old fashioned because we want Fallout to be a bit more than just "fun" (personally I think Fallout 4's fun is an unbalanced thing, it really depends on if you are in the mood for shooting things or playing Minecraft)

 

[Izak]

Oh and I found a video where Sawyer said he was interested:

Too bad Bethesda's ego is too big for them to let Obsidian make another Fallout.

Why do you think that? It's not up to Todd anyway, it's all about the bigwigs at Zenimax, if they think it'll be profitably, we'll get one, if not bye bye Fallout.

 

[Brahmin Noodles]

Oh and I found a video where Sawyer said he was interested:


Why do you think that? It's not up to Todd anyway, it's all about the bigwigs at Zenimax, if they think it'll be profitably, we'll get one, if not bye bye Fallout.

Yeah, you're right. I have this faint hope maybe Bethesda will announce another Obsidian Fallout at E3 this year. At the same time though I don't want to get my hopes up, seeing as how Obsidian is probably busy with Tyranny right now.

 

[Izak]

There's still Project Louisiana, seeing as how some Obsidian guys said they'd like to do a Fallout in New Orleans there's a slim chance that that's what Project Louisiana is (probably not though since JE Sawyer specifically said it wouldn't be).