Bioshock Collection - Would you kindly talk about these games?

[CT Phipps]

The plot also wouldn't have worked in the world Fables is set in, they also seem to think traveling four blocks takes a whole night or they don't even uderstand how Fabletown is built. Hell the fact that Jersey Devil is in there is pretty retarded. Gah I am doing it again.

We have a The Wolf Among Us thread I'd love to discuss it with you on.

http://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/the-wolf-among-us.207941/

 

[Walpknut]

No dude, I'll not go down that rabbit hole again.

 

[Millim]

CT, I don't want to be a dick as I think you're a pretty decent guy, but I don't think you grasp the idea of a 5/10. A 5 isn't meant to be for games you hate, that's a 1, or for a game that sucks, that's a 1-3. 5 is there for an average generic game.
I wouod give most CODs a 5, even through I can enjoy them.
In comparison, Fallout 4 for me is a 4 (and a 3 with DLC).

 

[Vergil]

You have to be truly epic to fuck up Fallout given how much I love Fallout.

Oh...yea.
I mean all they did was make a game thats nothing like Fallout at all and fucked it up in every single way.... 9/10 I love Fallout ;^)
If you give FO4 a 9/10 you dont love Fallout

 

[CT Phipps]

CT, I don't want to be a dick as I think you're a pretty decent guy, but I don't think you grasp the idea of a 5/10. A 5 isn't meant to be for games you hate, that's a 1, or for a game that sucks, that's a 1-3. 5 is there for an average generic game.
I wouod give most CODs a 5, even through I can enjoy them.
In comparison, Fallout 4 for me is a 4 (and a 3 with DLC).

They're basically 1/10 and 0/10 story-wise and character-wise but lifted by mostly fun gameplay.

Literally, Ghosts is a racist piece of garbage which has Riley and some cool set pieces.

 

[Walpknut]

I love Fallout, what bethesda makes isn't Fallout. At least FOBOS had the decency of not being Fallout 3.

 

[Vergil]

Literally, Ghosts is a racist piece of garbage

Buzzwords! Getcha meaningless, wrongly used buzzwords heeere-a! Buzzwords!

 

[Millim]

I love FOBOS the same way I love films like the room and Neil Breen. It's a good drunk game where I can do co op.

 

[CT Phipps]

Buzzwords! Getcha meaningless, wrongly used buzzwords heeere-a! Buzzwords!

Let me rephrase. "All of South America has united under a regime of America-hating genocidal psychopaths which use SECRET AMAZONIAN TORTURE TECHNIQUES for the purposes of stealing American technology to kill all Americans everywhere."

So, yeah, nothing racist there.

I liked the first bioshock back in the day. I remembe playing most of two but stopped for reasons I can't remember (I still have the special edition with the art book and vinyl, but I no longer own the game).

Never played the third one (even through I did promise someone I would a couple years ago, luckily I don't talk to her anymore).
I may pick them up for the PS4 at some point, really was an interesting series. But I just got caught up with more demanding games.

I hope you do, I'd love to get some thoughts on them here.

 

[Walpknut]

Does anyone even watch the Room and dislike it genuenly? I feel like it's more crowd mentality that keeps such a nothing movie so relevant, kind of like some users here obsession with Dragonborn. There are more interestingly and hilariously bad movies than the Room.

 

[CaptJ]

I'm going to say that art is fundamentally any particular work which actually has an opinion to convey about a subject in the quote-unquote real world.

That is a very stupid metric for art. "I, Robot" was built on fictional rules made by Asimov and how robots get around them.

 

[Millim]

Does anyone even watch the Room and dislike it genuenly? I feel like it's more crowd mentality that keeps such a nothing movie so relevant, kind of like some users here obsession with Dragonborn. There are more interestingly and hilariously bad movies than the Room.

Like Neil Breen.
Seriously, check him out, his films are masterpieces.

 

[Vergil]

Let me rephrase. "All of South America has united under a regime of America-hating genocidal psychopaths which use SECRET AMAZONIAN TORTURE TECHNIQUES for the purposes of stealing American technology to kill all Americans everywhere."

So, yeah, nothing racist there.

Theres not....
You dont seem to have an issue with how White European enemies are portrayed in any of the other games but uh oh some brown people got portrayed as the bad guys its an evil white supremacy game!
I only like mindless slaughter as long as Whites are the ones Im shooting at!

 

[CT Phipps]

That is a very stupid metric for art. "I, Robot" was built on fictional rules made by Asimov and how robots get around them.

What's your definition for art?

Theres not....
You dont seem to have an issue with how White Europeans are portrayed in any of the other games but uh oh some brown people got portrayed badly its an evil white supremacy game!
I only like mindless slaughter as long as Whites are the ones Im shooting at!

Actually, I had a lot of problems with the treatment of Russians until Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 when they suddenly were all reasonable and it was just the EXTREMIST Soviet nationalists. Which felt like bullshit and I think my headcanon for that universe is, "Europe and America murder millions of Russians in reprisals" but that's another part of the franchise.

I also love the Cordis Dei despite being an army of brown people out to steal America's shit.

It's just the Federation felt like a cariacture while the Cordis Dei felt vaguely plausible.

 

[Walpknut]

The american hating mass cult I can buy (have you ever heard Maduro talking?) but the ancient amazonian torture techniques? Devised by whom? Spainrads? did they turn Coca leaves into torture devices?

 

[AgentBJ09]

My short opinions.

Bioshock - Not the System Shock sequel I wanted, but enough of a mind-fuck that I didn't care too much.

Bioshock 2 - A cash-in on the idea that some part of Rapture could still be functional despite everything we saw in the original.

Bioshock: Infinite - COD with the Bioshock aesthetic. The Fallout 4 to the -shock series and name. Hate it, and didn't bother playing past the second hour.

The Collection - Would've been great if not for the code issues that plagued so many the first time around not being fixed after almost a decade. Plus, no DRM-free versions still, and one third of the purchase would go into a game I hate.

 

[CT Phipps]

The american hating mass cult I can buy (have you ever heard Maduro talking?) but the ancient amazonian torture techniques? Devised by whom? Spainrads? did they turn Coca leaves into torture devices?

I love how SERIOUSLY how they treat the concept too.

 

[Walpknut]

I wonder how latin american governments would go about nurturing indigenous traditions, aren't we all busy fucking them over?

 

[Vergil]

Actually, I had a lot of problems with the treatment of Russians until Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 when they suddenly were all reasonable and it was just the EXTREMIST Soviet nationalists.

But you didn't declare it racist.

Which felt like bullshit and I think my headcanon for that universe is, "Europe and America murder millions of Russians in reprisals" but that's another part of the franchise.

When are you going to get it through your thick fucking skull that headcanon means nothing and is useless?

I also love the Cordis Dei despite being an army of brown people out to steal America's shit.

It's just the Federation felt like a cariacture while the Cordis Dei felt vaguely plausible.

HOW?
Also Federation is a caricature so clearly Ghosts is an evil racist game.
All of the Call of Duties have portrayed Germans, Russians, Americans and Brits as caricatures but that's totes ok it's just crackers.

The american hating mass cult I can buy (have you ever heard Maduro talking?) but the ancient amazonian torture techniques? Devised by whom? Spainrads? did they turn Coca leaves into torture devices?

I didn't know there were no people in South America prior to the Spainards.

I love how SERIOUSLY how they treat the concept too.

Yea they took torture techniques of ancient tribes native to the region and improved upon them.
Wow this is some real White supremacy I'm seeing right here.

 

[CT Phipps]

My short opinions.

Bioshock - Not the System Shock sequel I wanted, but enough of a mind-fuck that I didn't care too much.

Love the game and wish they'd made more tie-ins.

Bioshock 2 - A cash-in on the idea that some part of Rapture could still be functional despite everything we saw in the original.

I think it was a mistake to remain in Rapture instead of going to a new city but I actually liked Eleanor and Sofia Lamb. I also wish we'd seen them again. I also felt horrible when I killed any Big Sister.

]Bioshock: Infinite - COD with the Bioshock aesthetic. The Fallout 4 to the -shock series and name. Hate it, and didn't bother playing past the second hour.

Burial At Sea is a game I've mentioned which pissed me off but I think that's in part because it's the game I want for Bioshock 4.

I want to play a Prequel in Rapture....preferrably with RPG elements and stealth.

I wonder how latin american governments would go about nurturing indigenous traditions, aren't we all busy fucking them over?

I mean, at least go, "A bunch of reactionary Brazilian politicians took over the nation and conquered the rest of the nation before setting their sights on the US."

When are you going to get it through your thick fucking skull that headcanon means nothing and is useless?

Do you even know what the hell I'm talking about? I'm talking about it being stupid they'd have peace. FOLLOW THE PLOT.

Yea they took torture techniques of ancient tribes native to the region and improved upon them.
Wow this is some real White supremacy I'm seeing right here.

There's more to racism than white people.