District 9 - Viral marketing that actually worked for me!
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zioburosky13
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maximaz said:
A rare good film of recent years (after many, many, too many crap and disappointed movies like Transformer 2. Oh god!
). D-9 takes the storyline of 'E.T' and 'Alien Nation and meshed them together with a dash of Director's origin background element (South Africa), baked them with a decent acting and characters and you got a classic hit. Every scenes of the film will makes you think of it. Basically, it's the movie that will make everyone talks about once they leave the cinama. (I heard a-lot of them while taking a piss after the film in the toilet.)
This film screams for a sequel, given that the ending is very open and clif-hanger type. Yet that's the beauty of the film which lets those who watch it fantasize their own conclusions. I do hope there will be no sequel for this film. Sequel always has high chance for ruining a good movie.
(Except Godfather 2. And Aliens.)
For those who hasn't watch it, do it. For those who plan to get a Blue-Ray or DVD when it's released, do it.
UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
Well, I liked it.
It wouldn't call it great, but it's good. I have a few criticisms, but overall they're fairly minor. The "message" about racism is less heavy-handed than I was worried it might be, although it's still a bit annoying and detracts from the story. The lack of Peter Jackson's hack direction is noticably absent, so yeah, I'd say it worked out for the best to promote him up to producer. I think the movie is elevated by a good ending. I wouldn't call it a cliffhanger like zioburosky13 did, but it completes the story without force-feeding you a resolution. You're actually left wondering what happens next, which is nice and unexpected compared to most movies I've seen in the past few years.
As for a sequel...I don't know if I'm on board for that. It could be cool if it were done well, but I strongly suspect it would turn out badly.
Some complaints (SPOILERS!):
[spoiler:88fdfb85a1]They overplayed the protagonist-loves-his-wife crap. Period. That's actually classic Peter Jackson style, giving cues to the audience about what they're supposed to feel instead of actually making them feel.
The protagonist escaping from the vivisection was awful. He's worth billions to the ruthless powerbrokers, yet they don't take sufficient steps to secure him to the table before chopping him up. Stupid. It's right up there with the cops taking off the Joker's handcuffs in The Dark Knight.
The "bad guy" survives unscathed right up to the end so he can be there for his predictable comeuppance. Stupid. Why is that guy even in the movie? Just to show how psychopathic and mean the humans are? If he'd gotten killed halfway through (as he should have) the only effect would have been to make the story better.
Why does contemporary sci-fi always take the position that humans are bad and the aliens are good? That's so irritating. It may have been innovative 20 or 30 or 40 years ago, but now it's cliché at best. For creatures with noble motivations those Prawns are pretty good at building weapons that make people pop like water balloons. Leave out the attempt at a message and it'll be a better movie.[/spoiler:88fdfb85a1]
Still, like I said, I liked it overall.
It wouldn't call it great, but it's good. I have a few criticisms, but overall they're fairly minor. The "message" about racism is less heavy-handed than I was worried it might be, although it's still a bit annoying and detracts from the story. The lack of Peter Jackson's hack direction is noticably absent, so yeah, I'd say it worked out for the best to promote him up to producer. I think the movie is elevated by a good ending. I wouldn't call it a cliffhanger like zioburosky13 did, but it completes the story without force-feeding you a resolution. You're actually left wondering what happens next, which is nice and unexpected compared to most movies I've seen in the past few years.
As for a sequel...I don't know if I'm on board for that. It could be cool if it were done well, but I strongly suspect it would turn out badly.
Some complaints (SPOILERS!):
[spoiler:88fdfb85a1]They overplayed the protagonist-loves-his-wife crap. Period. That's actually classic Peter Jackson style, giving cues to the audience about what they're supposed to feel instead of actually making them feel.
The protagonist escaping from the vivisection was awful. He's worth billions to the ruthless powerbrokers, yet they don't take sufficient steps to secure him to the table before chopping him up. Stupid. It's right up there with the cops taking off the Joker's handcuffs in The Dark Knight.
The "bad guy" survives unscathed right up to the end so he can be there for his predictable comeuppance. Stupid. Why is that guy even in the movie? Just to show how psychopathic and mean the humans are? If he'd gotten killed halfway through (as he should have) the only effect would have been to make the story better.
Why does contemporary sci-fi always take the position that humans are bad and the aliens are good? That's so irritating. It may have been innovative 20 or 30 or 40 years ago, but now it's cliché at best. For creatures with noble motivations those Prawns are pretty good at building weapons that make people pop like water balloons. Leave out the attempt at a message and it'll be a better movie.[/spoiler:88fdfb85a1]
Still, like I said, I liked it overall.
13pm
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
well, I found the movie to be quite trite. It could be much better. Too many cliches and expected outcomes.
I can't say it's bad. But it's not perfect either. Quite a decent movie. Do not expect any revelations. And do expect some really stupid plotlines. And yeah, hope there'll be no sequel or it will ruin the whole idea.
I can't say it's bad. But it's not perfect either. Quite a decent movie. Do not expect any revelations. And do expect some really stupid plotlines. And yeah, hope there'll be no sequel or it will ruin the whole idea.
UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
Yes, the idea of someone finding revelations in Distric 9 is laughable.13pm said:
Carib FMJ
Nuka-Cola Chaser
It was nice film. And yes I did expect more.
Casey fucking Ryback
First time out of the vault
UnidentifiedFlyingTard said:
Offtopic: I have to admit you're right about that, I guess I took your meaning wrongly, or I wasnt thinking about "smaller" movies. Like Pitch Black was amazing with a 23mil budget but Chronicles of riddick sucked in comparison even though it had a 100mil budget. It was an OK movie I guess but didn't have nearly as much personality as Pitch Black.
Another thing that sucked was it kinda killed(or at least slowed down) the Riddick movie franchise, since it only grossed 110mil(A disappointment considering the 105mil budget), if the movie had had a budget of 50mil, it would have been a success and we would have seen a sequel by now.
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Ugh, apparently district 9 isn't gonna be shown in theaters near me. Guess I'll have to wait for the dvd.
BTW. apparently this film was a major hit, looking at the reviews and the 37 million opening weekend, which is bigger than the budget! Way to go Jackson, now I'm even more disappointed that I don't get to see this movie yet.
UnidentifiedFlyingTard
Vault Fossil
yeah, its a fantastic movie, I need some more money so I can see it again.
[spoiler:257508175b]This one doesn't bother me at all. First, up to that point he'd shown himself to be a complete pushover who wasn't even the least bit of a threat.UniversalWolf said:
Further, it's obvious the prawns are rather stronger than humans physically. I'd wager that, at least in his "claw" hand, he had something of that increased strength due to his transformation. The restraints were probably designed for humans, and so couldn't prevent him from freeing himself once he actually started fighting.[/spoiler:257508175b]
[spoiler:257508175b]I think the point of him was to show how psychopathic humans can be, not to imply that all people are like him. Yeah, he could have died halfway through, but it's a film. People like to see the bad guys get their comeuppance. It was expected, yes, but still enjoyable to see him get pulled apart by the prawns. Don't have any real issue with that either.[/spoiler:257508175b]
[spoiler:257508175b]I think you're thoroughly misinterpreting here. The prawns, in general, aren't depicted as having "noble" motivations. They're the working-class dregs leftover from a ship where, presumably, all the "higher" class prawns who actually ran things died or left inexplicably. The ship basically ran out of gas and they parked it above the Earth for lack of any better options.
They were obviously scavengers, and a lot of them weren't terribly bright. They were being victimized by the MNU (I think that was the corporation, can't remember exactly) and the gang(s) that were in D9, but that's pretty believable to me. I think the point was to vilify corporations like the MNU and governments that tolerate that sort of thing, not humanity as a whole. The human rights groups who protested what was going on was a pretty deliberate counterpoint to the way the MNU was treating them, I thought. They just weren't a central element to the story.[/spoiler:257508175b]
Great movie, I thought. Not without some hitches, and sure you can point out that not everything is 100% original (but then what is, really?). Still, definitely worth the price of a movie ticket (which is much more than you can say for a lot of movies).
UnidentifiedFlyingTard
Vault Fossil
I still can't believe people actually passed this movie up to see GI Joe, what a piece of garbage.
Violence in movies is a bit to hyperreal these days. Other than that the movie was pretty good.
I'd reject interpretations of the prauns as "noble" creatures.
[spoiler:7fea38393e]I get the feeling that the main praun dude probably would of left behind his people if he didn't see the medical experiments. As for the prauns not simply just wiping out humans with their awesome weapons, I'd guess that they simply don't understand the concept of warfare.[/spoiler:7fea38393e]
I'd reject interpretations of the prauns as "noble" creatures.
[spoiler:7fea38393e]I get the feeling that the main praun dude probably would of left behind his people if he didn't see the medical experiments. As for the prauns not simply just wiping out humans with their awesome weapons, I'd guess that they simply don't understand the concept of warfare.[/spoiler:7fea38393e]
UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
[spoiler:cbc0dd4b03]Wow, those are some smart bad guys running that evil corporation.Kyuu said:
So why didn't they sedate him? Why again?
I guess they figured he wouldn't try very hard to escape while they were chopping him into pieces.
[/spoiler:cbc0dd4b03][spoiler:cbc0dd4b03]He had NO PURPOSE AT ALL. He could have been deleted entirely and it would have made no difference. If anyone deserved a comeuppance it was the protagonist's father-in-law.
So I guess we have more than one evil human, which makes it a theme. Especially since one of them is superfluous to the story.[/spoiler:cbc0dd4b03]
[spoiler:cbc0dd4b03]The prawns are:
1) Starving
2) Trying to survive and get home
3) Trying to protect their children
4) The victims of experimentation at the hands of the evil humans
5) The victims of exploitation at the hands of human profiteers
Not to mention the protagonist stabs Christopher in the back (for no good reason) at the first opportunity, but Christopher doesn't abandon him.
If you haven't noticed how they're depicted as more noble than humans, then you aren't thinking critically enough about what you're watching. Especially since anti-humanism is such a common theme in half-baked sci-fi. In Planet of the Apes it was insightful. Now it's pseudo-insightful.[/spoiler:cbc0dd4b03]
[spoiler:cbc0dd4b03]Well, if you're determined to supply your own rationalizations, far be it from me to stop you.
I mean, really, that's nothing but conjecture. There's never any definitive explanation of what happened with the ship.[/spoiler:cbc0dd4b03]
I think in some cases this movie's getting more credit than it deserves because contemporary movies in it's genre are so godawful. I mean, sure, I liked it, but a great movie - no.
SimpleMinded
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UniversalWolf said:
[spoiler:967e6653ca]Errr.... Christopher lied to Wikis and it's ambiguous as to whether or not he ever WOULD come back to save him... isn't that about as much stabbing in the back as Wikis did to Christopher?
The aliens were shown to be pretty diverse in their actions just like the humans, but since hte story revolved around Christopher who was the most intelligent, it might give off that light.
Was it biased towards teh aliens? Yes, but I think you're exaggerating it a bit much.[/spoiler:967e6653ca]
Alright, all these spoiler tags are getting highly wearisome, so everyone will just have to settle for a disclaimer:
IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS, DO NOT READ THE REST OF THIS POST.
Yes, it's a weakness of the movie. They should've thought the situation through a little more and changed the script to make a more plausible escape sequence. But it didn't grate much on me.
I mean, really, that's nothing but conjecture. There's never any definitive explanation of what happened with the ship.[/quote]
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. This is what you can garner if you pay attention to all the instances where they interviewing people. I didn't just pull that out of my ass. Watch the movie again.
IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS, DO NOT READ THE REST OF THIS POST.
Well you aren't wrong, I suppose. There are good rationalizations for why they didn't sedate/strap-him down properly. They were rushing/not thinking things through. They didn't believe he was any sort of real threat. They didn't realize that his strength had increased as part of his transformation. Etc. and so on. But really it boils down to: it would be a pretty boring movie if they sedated him, bolted him down to the table with steel, surrounded him with a team of mercs, they harvested his organs, The End.UniversalWolf said:Wow, those are some smart bad guys running that evil corporation.
So why didn't they sedate him? Why again?
I guess they figured he wouldn't try very hard to escape while they were chopping him into pieces.
Yes, it's a weakness of the movie. They should've thought the situation through a little more and changed the script to make a more plausible escape sequence. But it didn't grate much on me.
His purpose was to be the psychopathic merc who liked to kill prawns and who gets a satisfying comeuppance. Nothing more or less. Totally necessary? No. Does it detract much? I don't think so. You obviously disagree.
More than one human is "evil," sure. Although pretty much all the humans present in the movie belong either to the underworld gang in D9 or the MNU. So I think the theme is that MNU is an "evil" corporation. Not that humans are "evil" in general. The humans who ran from him when he was trying to get food and the newscast came on were just ignorant and panicky. Again, the civil rights activists who were protesting were a deliberate counterpoint to show that not every human viewed the prawns as just irritations to be dealt with until their advanced technology could be utilized for profit.
1, 2, and 5 are right. Number 3 is primarily just Christopher. The prawns in general didn't seem to be terribly concerned about anyone's life but their own. None of them even raised a fuss when they burned the shack with the eggs. Number 4 and number 5 are pretty much the same point.
The protagonist got angry because Christopher changed his mind, deciding he had to help his people first before helping the protagonist (what the hell was his name again?) with his "affliction." It wasn't a stab-in-the-back, it was an "I'm not thinking clearly because I'm afflicted with something that's turning me into an alien and you just said I'm going to have to wait 3 years before you'll do anything about it!"
The prawns, in general, weren't depicted as noble. They were being victimized, yes. Being victimized doesn't make someone noble. It just makes them victimized. Only Christopher was really depicted as "noble." And that's the character. He's an intelligent and noble prawn. He really seemed to be something different from the norm for the species, at least compared to those living in District 9.
Well, if you're determined to supply your own rationalizations, far be it from me to stop you.
I mean, really, that's nothing but conjecture. There's never any definitive explanation of what happened with the ship.[/quote]
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. This is what you can garner if you pay attention to all the instances where they interviewing people. I didn't just pull that out of my ass. Watch the movie again.
It's called difference of opinion. Doesn't bother me that you don't think it deserves more than a "good" whereas I think it's a "great," and it shouldn't really bother you either. Also, I never liked Planet of the Apes myself. But then I was pretty young last I watched. Perhaps I should give it another chance.
Alright, all these spoiler tags are getting highly wearisome, so everyone will just have to settle for a disclaimer:
IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS, DO NOT READ THE REST OF THIS POST.
Yes, it's a weakness of the movie. They should've thought the situation through a little more and changed the script to make a more plausible escape sequence. But it didn't grate much on me.
IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS, DO NOT READ THE REST OF THIS POST.
Well you aren't wrong, I suppose. There are good rationalizations for why they didn't sedate/strap-him down properly. They were rushing/not thinking things through. They didn't believe he was any sort of real threat. They didn't realize that his strength had increased as part of his transformation. Etc. and so on. But really it boils down to: it would be a pretty boring movie if they sedated him, bolted him down to the table with steel, surrounded him with a team of mercs, they harvested his organs, The End.UniversalWolf said:Wow, those are some smart bad guys running that evil corporation.
So why didn't they sedate him? Why again?
I guess they figured he wouldn't try very hard to escape while they were chopping him into pieces.
Yes, it's a weakness of the movie. They should've thought the situation through a little more and changed the script to make a more plausible escape sequence. But it didn't grate much on me.
His purpose was to be the psychopathic merc who liked to kill prawns and who gets a satisfying comeuppance. Nothing more or less. Totally necessary? No. Does it detract much? I don't think so. You obviously disagree.
More than one human is "evil," sure. Although pretty much all the humans present in the movie belong either to the underworld gang in D9 or the MNU. So I think the theme is that MNU is an "evil" corporation. Not that humans are "evil" in general. The humans who ran from him when he was trying to get food and the newscast came on were just ignorant and panicky. Again, the civil rights activists who were protesting were a deliberate counterpoint to show that not every human viewed the prawns as just irritations to be dealt with until their advanced technology could be utilized for profit.
1, 2, and 5 are right. Number 3 is primarily just Christopher. The prawns in general didn't seem to be terribly concerned about anyone's life but their own. None of them even raised a fuss when they burned the shack with the eggs. Number 4 and number 5 are pretty much the same point. They're being exploited and treated as sub-human by the MNU.
The protagonist got angry because Christopher changed his mind, deciding he had to help his people first before helping the protagonist (what the hell was his name again?) with his "affliction." It wasn't a stab-in-the-back, it was an "I'm not thinking clearly because I'm afflicted with something that's turning me into an alien and you just said I'm going to have to wait 3 years before you'll do anything about it!"
The prawns, in general, weren't depicted as noble. They were being victimized, yes. Being victimized doesn't make someone noble. It just makes them victimized. Only Christopher was really depicted as "noble." And that's the character. He's an intelligent and noble prawn. He really seemed to be something different from the norm for the species, at least compared to those living in District 9.
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this. This is what you can garner if you pay attention to all the instances where they interviewing people. I didn't just pull that out of my ass. Watch the movie again.Well, if you're determined to supply your own rationalizations, far be it from me to stop you.
I mean, really, that's nothing but conjecture. There's never any definitive explanation of what happened with the ship.
It's called difference of opinion. Doesn't bother me that you don't think it deserves more than a "good" whereas I think it's a "great," and it shouldn't really bother you either. Also, I never liked Planet of the Apes myself. But then I was pretty young last I watched. Perhaps I should give it another chance.
IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS DO NOT READ THE REST OF THIS <u>THREAD</u>
(Someone had to say it.)
The more I saw of the marketing, the more I thought "cliche bullshit", hence I've put off seeing it untill it comes to a video store near I. Unfrotunitely, from reading these above reviews/spoilers, that's exactly what it sounds like . . . And it still sounds better then most movies I've rented for the 2008/2009 year.
Or, I'm horrible at selecting movies.
(Someone had to say it.)
The more I saw of the marketing, the more I thought "cliche bullshit", hence I've put off seeing it untill it comes to a video store near I. Unfrotunitely, from reading these above reviews/spoilers, that's exactly what it sounds like . . . And it still sounds better then most movies I've rented for the 2008/2009 year.
Or, I'm horrible at selecting movies.
JunWisewar
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Maybe because too many crappy movies burned into the back of my skull, I'm genuinely overwhelmed by District 9.
Really enjoy it.
At least this didn't happened
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1136608/board/nest/145366628
I LOL'd at OneManDamned's comment
Really enjoy it.
At least this didn't happened
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1136608/board/nest/145366628
I LOL'd at OneManDamned's comment
christian balse is at the moment overrated. I dont say hes a bad actor I enjoy some of his movies. But hes casted way to much. (In T4 for example he was in my eyes a complet miscast, but thats my oppinion).
Actualy I am looknig forward to District 9
Actualy I am looknig forward to District 9