Fallout 2 heteronormativity

[peadar87]

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Not going to get bogged down in this debate. Never a good idea to start a discussion on a misunderstanding.

Suffice to say I don't agree with the OP, I've talked with Dr Fallout before, I like him, but disagree with him on this particular issue, and yes, I did kind of assume you were anti-gay, partially on account of, y'know, all the Nazi stuff, and because the stuff you were coming out with was very similar in tone and content to people who are legitimately anti-gay.

 

[FalloutIsMyDrug]

I do find Vergil to be rather.... abrasive, though I can't help but respect his ability to construct proper arguments.



Nevermind, I have proof that he is a homophobe:

absolutely hate all gay people and think they're an unnatural blight on the species who should be ridiculed, abused and even removed

Please ban this bigot immediately.

 

[RangerBoo]

Is every single whore in Fallout 2 female??

I guess my gay Chosen One will remain a virgin then.

Even Dragon Age Origins had male whores, even a gay boyfriend right at the introductory part of the game.

Anthony Burch is that you?

 

[Vergil]

Anthony Burch is that you?

Whoa now.
Even I'm not mean enough to call someone Anthony "It's true, this man has no Wii" Burch.

Spoiler: For the uninitiated, I present "THE CURE TO SUICIDAL THOUGHTS

>tfw you'll never be as pathetic as Anthony Burch

 

[RangerBoo]

 

[Jogre]

The part of this that made me hate this guy, is how he always uses his money as a defense of himself.

He doesn't defend his work by him being the author, nor by actually giving reasons why, he uses how much fucking money he made, like it's his only priority to get money.

IMHO, that's the main problem with the gaming industry nowadays. A well-regarded writer doesn't care about valid criticisms, or even about the quality of there work, he's obsessed with how much money he makes.

It reminds me of how companies like Bioware started off with 3 guys giving up there jobs, and investing there life savings in to a company because they genuinely wanted to work with video games, or how Fallout 1 was originally intended as a tribute to a game that the developers genuinely cared about and lost. When game writers genuinely wanted to make good games and show there work to the world, but nowadays we have shit like this, where the most popular games are being written by people out to make a quick buck.

 

[SarcasticGoodGuy]

@JO'Geran what? You mean to say that you're upset that a beloved hobby has been turned into a formulaic corporate money making machine with no love put into it? How unreasonable you filthy nostalgia nerd.

 

[Prone Squanderer]

@JO'Geran what? You mean to say that you're upset that a beloved hobby has been turned into a formulaic corporate money making machine with no love put into it? How unreasonable you filthy nostalgia nerd.

 

[SarcasticGoodGuy]

Simpsons gifs = immediate respect

 

[Radiosity]

The part of this that made me hate this guy, is how he always uses his money as a defense of himself.

He doesn't defend his work by him being the author, nor by actually giving reasons why, he uses how much fucking money he made, like it's his only priority to get money.

IMHO, that's the main problem with the gaming industry nowadays. A well-regarded writer doesn't care about valid criticisms, or even about the quality of there work, he's obsessed with how much money he makes.

It reminds me of how companies like Bioware started off with 3 guys giving up there jobs, and investing there life savings in to a company because they genuinely wanted to work with video games, or how Fallout 1 was originally intended as a tribute to a game that the developers genuinely cared about and lost. When game writers genuinely wanted to make good games and show there work to the world, but nowadays we have shit like this, where the most popular games are being written by people out to make a quick buck.

And look at Bioware now, with their regressivism, pointing out so-called white privilege, hatred of men, and all the other bullshit their staff engage in on company time (like, literally coming out with this ass backwards shit on their official Bioware twitter accounts, wtf). Sad to see how far they've fallen.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Really? So the only reason my girlfriend and I don't have kids now, at the age of 29, is because the kids would have a better chance of prospering if I wait a little more? Nope, it's because we have things we'd rather be doing than raising kids at this stage of our lives, even though we are physically and financially capable of supporting several by this stage.

Cough*selfish*cough. I'm joking, but honestly one of the best ways for kids to prosper is to you know, actually want them.

Okay, so why is smething that is "unnatural" also wrong? It's very natural to shit in the corner of a cave and die of septicemia at the age of 24.

I was being sarcastic.

Unless that child is homosexual. Then they're fair game for abuse.

Shoot em all!

And this argument is over, so feel free to ignore this post!

 

[Cyberyn]

Please ban this bigot immediately.

I don't mind violent homophobia, the truth is that most gays are rampantly promiscuous degenerates.
I'm one of those rare far right-wing gays, such an exception that it's not worth mentioning.

 

[Vergil]

I don't mind violent homophobia, the truth is that most gays are rampantly promiscuous degenerates.

A very unfortunate truth that is rarely talked about and I'm quite happy to see someone else mention it.
I find anything besides monogamous relationships disgusting.

I'm one of those rare far right-wing gays,

A rare breed we are indeed.

 

[Dr Fallout]

A very unfortunate truth that is rarely talked about and I'm quite happy to see someone else mention it.
I find anything besides monogamous relationships disgusting.

A rare breed we are indeed.

When you find Vergil is actually quite moral.

 

[R.Graves]

Even as a "gay" person it never struck me that fallout 2 needed male prostitutes. Because why would it?

 

[Ragemage]

Nevermind, I have proof that he is a homophobe:


Please ban this bigot immediately.

There's a funny thing about that, Vergil's bisexual with a leaning towards men (as he's said multiple times), sooooooo... Can't really be homophobic when you're homosexual, that would be saying you're afraid of yourself, which is ridiculous.

For that matter I'll also throw in my lot alongside @Vergil and @Cyberyn in that I'm also a right-wing gay (bisexual). We do exist, despite the leftist media purporting all the time that if you're gay you literally can't be conservative/right-wing/republican/insert-not-Democrat-word-here. I'm also a Catholic so let's go ahead and nip the whole "gays can't be Christian" bit in the bud while we're at it too.

 

[R.Graves]

When you find Vergil is actually quite moral.

I wouldn't say moral so much as a prude. But seriously monogamy is admirable.

 

[Vergil]

There's a funny thing about that, Vergil's bisexual with a leaning towards men (as he's said multiple times), sooooooo... Can't really be homophobic when you're homosexual, that would be saying you're afraid of yourself, which is ridiculous.

Nigga he was joking....

 

[FalloutIsMyDrug]

Also, homophobia is not the fear of homosexuality, but the prejudice against it. I know, counterintuitive.

 

[Vergil]

Also, homophobia is not the fear of homosexuality, but the prejudice against it. I know, counterintuitive.

I dont really get why its called "homophobia" or "transphobia". I could easily beat the shit out of some proud homosexual man with a low amount of strength and firmness in his wrist in a dress, Im not afraid of them.