Fallout 3 Trailer

Could somebody please explain to me why this

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is completely "teh suxxor" when compared to this :

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I mean except for the box that gives it a WWI aspect and the rather mean look it is not THAT much different...

Did you see the power armour in Fallout 2 ? It was quite different from the first one too...

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And I'm not trying to start a flamewar or something, I just want to understand why everybody seems so pissed about it.
 
boer_kameel said:
Anyway, F3 is a new game. F1 and F2 contained 2 sorts of power armour. I'd like to see a new version (or some new versions) in F3. Only 2 types in 3 games seems a bit cheap.
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My guess is that this armor has been modified by it's owner, who happens to be a lowly raider, but considering your now level 20-something he's decked out with power armor and laser rifle. All hail to level scaling! :wink:

Mick
 
Brotherhood: As there only was a one-man base there, the plans should have been sent to "Brotherhood HQ", where/whatever that may be. They only "re-opened a minimal set of outposts in the Enclave region to monitor their actions". Maybe the HQ is in the Eastcoast?
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The HQ is the Lost Hills bunker from FO1.
 
boer_kameel said:
Anyway, F3 is a new game. F1 and F2 contained 2 sorts of power armour. I'd like to see a new version (or some new versions) in F3. Only 2 types in 3 games seems a bit
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A new type for each game seems a bit cheap. Did FO2 need new armour? Nope. It's a destroyed world, it really stretched things that the Enclave were able to design and create both vertibirds and advanced PA. Power armour was the epitome of protection before and after the war, in Fallout you have to jump through the hoops to get a set but in FO2 it's so common you can have most of your party equipped with it. And many of your opponents had it.

I like the box art of Fallout, but I wish they had choosen a different image to promote the game, then perhaps the FO2, FOT, FOPOS, Van Buren and FO3 developers wouldn't have felt the need to keep reinventing it to give their games a seperate identity.

MrBumble said:
Could somebody please explain to me why this is completely "teh suxxor" when compared to this :
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Because it's not in keeping with the style of the previous games. Not every one likes the FO2 armour but the new one is a real mismatch.

It's too boxy, and 50's vision of the future might of been clunky but not boxy, and perhaps too gritty. And Fallout was never about the gritty.
 
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Here it look better (in movie was shown only few seconds and i watch bad quality mve)

Every Fallouts have different armors, its usual because otherwise players will be boring to see the same again. Unless am not sure how they will look in game (between design and finall sprite is long distance)

Anyway this movie or concept arts dont shown me anything about how game will look. They are made only to increase players interesting about this production.
 
Why are you people forgetting that Fallout's weapons did not revolve around technical feasibility but around the setting and looks?

Also: the reason why this power armour is 'teh suck' when compared to the original is that this power armour has a very different feel to it. It has a much clunkier and 'sharper' feel to it, with sharp corners instead of smooth roundings. It's more of a 20s/30s (or 90s/00s) influenced piece than a 50s piece.

Also, I never liked Fallout 2's Power Armor. Too modern.
 
The power armor doesn't look good. I do like the fact that it's clunky, clunky is good, but the design philosophy behind it seems to be "let's make it look like paladin's armor". Makes some sense, somewhere, but not much.

Why is everyone assuming it is Brotherhood of Steel? There are plenty of power armors left from the war and maybe someone else took the Eastern ones and modified them, just like the Brotherhood did. Brotherhood was hardly the only one of its kind, though its success and level of technology were somewhat unique. Union of Post Apocalyptic Workers, anyone? Or whatever they were called...

Also, don't forget Sawyer mentioned that it's pretty much impossible to recreate Fallout 1's power armor on a 3D engine, it just doesn't work, and it does have to be modified in some way
 
I can understand the guy saying something about the fallout community being glittering gems of hatred.
God, they give us a rather nice teaser (TEASER! NOT TRAILER! So stop comparing it to that Cinematic TRAILER from SC2) and still people find stuff to whine about.

Face it, it's NOT going to be 2d sprites with isometric viewpoint.
The only thing we can hope for is it will be 3rd person instead of 1st person. Maybe even a NWN2 style camera which can be zoomed out to an almost "free rotating isometric" stand.

Nothing wrong with a tad different power armor (I didn't see the forums explode this much when fallout2 came out)
And heck, after several years in the wasteland and possible many battles I wouldn't expect it to still look shiny and new and this fits the "wasteland battlemodpackage"

Music: I actually DID like it. But that might have something to do with me being a musician/composer myself.
And face it, if they didn't manage to snag the original composer AND/OR the rights to the original music we're going to have to make due with new music. And as far as new music goes they could have done a lot worse.

If you aren't willing or able to accept the fact that this game ISN'T made by interplay/blackisle and ISN'T made by the original people with the original idea's and ISN'T going to be a carbon copy of the first games and ISN'T going to be exactly like the old games...
Hell, if you aren't willing or able to accept the fact that times have changed and you're all sounding like a 90-year old blabbering about the 'good old days" then don't demand a sequel but let the franchise die instead...

And this topic is the perfect example of why I hate little kids. All the "this isn't right. Make it like I want to" is way too kindergarten for me and I would strangle my own kid if I ever got one like that...
 
I'd rather have a completely new shitty MkIII power armor, but still have two previous ones looking same as they did in Fallout 1 and 2.
But if they're giving me an old power armor, I want them to make it look exacly like it did, no square chests and trumpet pauldrons that make it "realistic".

The helmet. The problems of helmet are all details - proportions (new one is wider than the original, that's why everybody say there is a gorilla inside) and visor (completely different - top border is straight and there's more glasses overall similarity - makes it look sinister instead of old one) and a lot of tiny differences like the quantity of tubes, way they goes, intakes and filters etc.

Speaking of beeing sinister: the pose - old one was depicted as full of dignity with the chin up, and new one... I bet he's murmuring some swears in the shadow. Woah, cool!
 
You're borderline close to trolling, MazeMouse. I'll let it slip this time, but next time, do not make unnecessary inflammatory remarks about people being childish, immature, unrealistic, raving lunatics, whatever. It's just trolling, if you have a point to make, make it without the trolls.
 
Brother None said:
Why is everyone assuming it is Brotherhood of Steel? There are plenty of power armors left from the war and maybe someone else took the Eastern ones and modified them, just like the Brotherhood did. Brotherhood was hardly the only one of its kind, though its success and level of technology were somewhat unique. Union of Post Apocalyptic Workers, anyone? Or whatever they were called...
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Look closely, he has the BoS symbol on his breastplate.

And it was the Union of Atomic Workers.
 
Ah yes, that Union. Couldn't find it when searching the Vault, reminding me once again that Wiki searches suck.

Ah, didn't see that one. That makes no sense, in any way, and it's pretty weak, nor do I want to see what Bethesda does with an organisation with a heirarchy that has "paladin" in it.

Stupid stupid. Predictable, but stupid.
 
Brother None said:
You're borderline close to trolling, MazeMouse. I'll let it slip this time, but next time, do not make unnecessary inflammatory remarks about people being childish, immature, unrealistic, raving lunatics, whatever. It's just trolling, if you have a point to make, make it without the trolls.
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Sorry, it was in no way meant to be trolling. I made a personal observation and have tendency to be (very) blunt about those.
 
Briosafreak said:
Boy you have some catching up to do :)
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Really? What else did I miss? Armies of supermutants in the back? Vertibirds hovering around?

I am a bit surprised that some people expected more than this. It's Bethesda, people.

Also, it amuses me that ingame rendered 3D still looks shittier than the handdrawn 3D of T-Ray in Fallout 10 years later. That's just hella funny.
 
MazeMouse said:
Brother None said:
You're borderline close to trolling, MazeMouse. I'll let it slip this time, but next time, do not make unnecessary inflammatory remarks about people being childish, immature, unrealistic, raving lunatics, whatever. It's just trolling, if you have a point to make, make it without the trolls.
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Sorry, it was in no way meant to be trolling. I made a personal observation and have tendency to be (very) blunt about those.
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You were essentially calling everyone idiots for wanting a sequel to their favourite game to be *like* said game. Seems to be a pretty weird observation.

None: Yep, way weak. Although theoretically, we don't know where the logo comes from, so it might be a general army logo. Doubtful, though.
 
Brother None said:
Also, don't forget Sawyer mentioned that it's pretty much impossible to recreate Fallout 1's power armor on a 3D engine, it just doesn't work, and it does have to be modified in some way
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Wasn't that because of the clipping with the pauldron/gardbrace (whatever it's called)? That doesn't explain the need to add a chest box, change the helmet or add pieces straight out of the 14th century.
 
MrBumble said:
Could somebody please explain to me why this
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is completely "teh suxxor" when compared to this :
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I mean except for the box that gives it a WWI aspect and the rather mean look it is not THAT much different...
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when asked, most people say the pauldrons and chestpiece feel wrong. your picture shows neither to the full extend, so indeed. not that much wrong with the picture you posted. if you zoom out however...
 
Stag said:
I think they might be going third person. I have no real reason to believe this, but in order to preserve a little bit of the FO style but not quite go isometric, they'll go 3rd person. This POV isn't the most popular, but it's been doing well on the consoles with Ghost Recon, Gears of War, Rainbow Six, etc., and following the fairly official announcement of console support, I don't see any way for the game to bo iso.
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I think it will be 3rd person or isometric because of the graphics. Compare those graphics in that movie to ET: QW, Crysis and UT2k7, they "suck". They really do look like 3rd person graphics, they would be just fine in an isometric view.

Anyone know what weapon he is holding? Looks kinda crappy.
 
Ziltoid said:
Yep, way weak. Although theoretically, we don't know where the logo comes from, so it might be a general army logo. Doubtful, though.
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It doesn't make much sense as an army logo. Remember the wings, gears and sword are supposed to express elders, knights and paladins, leadership, science and fighters. Though it's a bit of an unknown, to be sure.

We should've known the temptation to include paladins and knights would be too big.

Wasn't that because of the clipping with the pauldron/gardbrace (whatever it's called)? That doesn't explain the need to add a chest box, change the helmet or add pieces straight out of the 14th century.
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Because of clipping, yes, not sure what clipped, tho'.

And no, it doesn't, but it does mean you can't copy 1:1 from Fallout 1, which wouldn't make any sense anyway, considering the setting.
 
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