It's still weak-ass machine, after all. Mods could never be as good as on PC if Sony and Microsoft keeps doing things the way they are doing now. Well, at least ~half of console audiences already experience mods, even though it's not enough to wake them up that the DLCs they're getting were literally stuff they could easily get with mods.
But they can obiously handle a mod that does the exact same thing the workshop mods do. Hell, I could probably make some up if I had the money for F4.
Who the fuck even cares at this point?
Pretty much anyone who click on this thread and read it. Otherwise, why else would you, or anyone else, be here?
I dunno, I don't like the direction Bethesda took the franchise in, but by now I feel like I kind of know that modern Fallout is bad, old school Fallout is good. It seems pointless to keep the whole "Bethesda ruined Fallout" shtick going because it's old news. Really old news.
I think you need to appreciate that Bethesda not only ruined Fallout for the hardcore, diehard Fallout 1 and 2 fan. Fallout 4 spits in the face of Fallout 3 fans. They not only ruined the franchise for fans of the old games, but fans of their own version of Fallout games. So there's even more upset people now than before.
Yea that's the thing. People here were upset about Fallout 3. I can safely tell you that Fallout 3 is a masterpiece of RPGs compared to Fallout 4. It really is that dumbed down and awful. They ruined their own version of this franchise, not just the franchise as a whole.
We'll see when the time comes. I agree that a lot of the fans of the older games will be more hesitant to buy into the hype for the next Bethesda Fallout, but what's less certain is whether or not they've tapped into a new market of ultra-casuals who just want lots of stuff to shoot and loot, and no pesky dialog to ruin their "deep roleplaying experience" while completing Kid in a Fridge.
You and I are on the same boat, then (to an extent). We all already know that modern Fallout does not meet our standards, so why keep beating a long, dead horse? Besides, our reputation is not famous among the overall Fallout community, or the internet in general. This certainly does not help make anything better.
I pirated Fallout 4 on November, last year, and even if the game is a colossal (the key word is colossal) disappointment to both the old and new Fallout player bases, calling Fallout 3 a masterpiece (of anything) compared to Fallout 4 is a massive overstatement. They both suffer from poorly thought out worlds, unbelievable characters, horrendous writing, and unbalanced combat, but I think people are forgetting just how a disgrace Fallout 3 was to people who were attentive enough to realize that game never even tried to pay homage to the first two games. This applies to Fallout 4, as well. Hell, probably to a larger degree, but at least it actually improved on 3's broken gunplay, its idiotic repair system, agriculture and weather, and its companions (despite the fact that companions are useless and without any thought put into besides Nick).
I disagree with this. I think having to repair and maintain your weapons is one of, if not the only thing Bethesda did right when making a post-apocalyptic game. Hell, in Fallout 3, you can't repair a weapon past a certain % unless your Repair skill met the requirement, one thing that Obsidian removed when they make New Vegas which disappointed me, even though they did added a 75% threshold before your equipment start to function improperly. Sure, the system isn't perfect where it became a loot-fest with us carrying 10+ same weapon simply to repair and maintain the one's we're using, but they shouldn't just outright trash it away. A New Vegas mod to make equipment repairing better, the Alternative Repairing, gave us, well, better alternatives when it comes to repairing and maintaining equipment. Back then, looking at a trailer for Fallout 4, I saw weapon parts and stuff like that. I assumed Bethesda learned from the New Vegas mod, so now we can repair equipment with parts instead of having to find a whole thing to do that. To my chagrin, nope you don't repair weapons in that game anymore (and some of the stupid excuses was, simply, because Skills were removed
).
I dunno, people are pretty dumb. Next time they're dangling some keys in front of the audience along with a well thought out PR message of how they've "learned" from the last time people are probably still going to fall for it.
This.
And this, I think will explain why most of them will simply buy the next Bethesda game like hot cakes as well. Because people don't care anymore. They just want that entertainment value. And they buy in overhyped bullshit. And I know this sounds like I hate those people, but I do not! It's actually normal behaviour when you think about it. Beacuse people don't care what game they really buy, they just want to have mindless fun. Once the next Bethesda game is released, they will pretty much forget about the experience they had with F4.
It's basically an addiction for some. The game is a Skinner(?) box, it gave them initial pleasure, but they can no longer find that thrill, so they scrounge the game for that high. Consider I was in that spot once, I can't really blame them.