Fallout 76

That would imply a respect for their own continuity. Which they have shown little of.

It would? Because I was thinking them doing that would demonstrate a complete disregard for the established lore by mocking it up some more.
 
It would mean they cared about them enough to give them an origin and engage with fans.

Point taken, but Toddy and Petey did "engage" with fans and commented on things in Fallout 4. Remember what they said about "kid in the fridge?" Ugh...

They "engaged" but it only proved how ignorant they are.
 
Point taken, but Toddy and Petey did "engage" with fans and commented on things in Fallout 4. Remember what they said about "kid in the fridge?" Ugh...

They "engaged" but it only proved how ignorant they are.
Oh, that reminds me, I recently heard about a mod that fixes that horrible moment, by replacing the stupid kid with a very dead skeleton : https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21857

I'm thinking about something else, since I've been trying to learn the FO4Edit to simply delete the Cabot scenes and their aliens "easter eggs" out of existence. Fallout 76 is mentionned in a UFO related terminal note, in Fallout 3 I think. One of the overseers of Vault 76 getting kidnapped by aliens, apparently.
I'm afraid that aliens will be an important part of Fallout 76. Yes, the same who apparently "provoked the war", spitting in the face of the very interesting, highly detailed lore of pre-war America.
 
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I decided to read the comments in that mod page and good lord , the nonsensical defense for that quest. The amount of stupid arguments was staggering.

https://fallout.gamepedia.com/Coffin_Willie

They even used this as evidence that ghouls don't need to eat. Apparently a couple of months without drinking and eating is the same as 200 years without doing either.
 
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I decided to read the comments in that mod page and good lord , the nonsensical defense for that quest. The amount of stupid arguments was staggering.

https://fallout.gamepedia.com/Coffin_Willie

They even used this as evidence that ghouls don't need to eat. Apparently a couple of months without drinking and eating is the same as 200 years without doing either.
And let's be honest, Willie could be exaggerating how long he has been there. He also complains you took too long to dig. Also people who have been buried say they lose all track of time and days seem like weeks in real life.

He is not a reliable source of information and there is nowhere else in the game that mentions when he was buried. We can also smell him and hear him talk while he is still buried, so it indicates that air flows between the dirt somehow, so he would have oxygen to survive for a while.

It is very different from having someone saying their kid disappeared 200 years ago and they haven't found him yet, and then the kid saying he has been in that fridge for 200 years. :shrug:
 
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They "engaged" but it only proved how ignorant they are.
I wouldn't even say it was them being ignorant, it was being annoyed about a topic they don't care about. That's what that twitter spat showed, that they don't care about internal consistency and lore, but rather what's a cool and fun side quest?
Yes, the same who apparently "provoked the war", spitting in the face of the very interesting, highly detailed lore of pre-war America.
This is why I had a problem with Mothership Zeta. Not only were aliens previously just Easter eggs, but they took away every bit of the darkness of humankind from the Great War and the events leading to it. It was our humanity, people killing people over resources and technology.
It was about humanity hitting the reset button because of tensions throughout the world. It wasn't about a man getting mind controlled by aliens to nuke everyone just because. That makes it all the alien's fault. We didn't do it according to Mothership Zeta, they did.
Apparently a couple of months without drinking and eating is the same as 200 years without doing either.
See, I can almost accept that they'd have an argument but there's definitely a thing about ghouls having basic human needs. So a few months would imply they can go much longer or can do some sort of weird hibernation thing? I'm not sure. But also, Billy should have had problems being stuck in a fridge and growing. Ghouls still grow up or at least that's how I remember the conversation going. Maybe Typhon and Set were already both adults when they ghoulified but I'd have to go look at the dialogue again.
It raises so many questions that it was annoying to even think about when you find Billy.

What I'm saying with this is, that the older games have had consistency issues or questionable consistency too. I don't think they are nearly as bad about it though and in turn makes it much more tolerable when something doesn't line up. And when you ask people involved with the project they don't just shut you down about it. Let me find that one question and answer with MCA in the bible.
 
I'm not sure. But also, Billy should have had problems being stuck in a fridge and growing. Ghouls still grow up or at least that's how I remember the conversation going. Maybe Typhon and Set were already both adults when they ghoulified but I'd have to go look at the dialogue again.
It raises so many questions that it was annoying to even think about when you find Billy.
Even Bethesda in Fallout 3 says Ghoul children grow up. Carol in the Underworld says she was just a little girl when the bombs fell, and she became a ghoul at most one year after that. She is a fully grown ghoul 200 years later.
 
Even Bethesda in Fallout 3 says Ghoul children grow up. Carol in the Underworld says she was just a little girl when the bombs fell, and she became a ghoul at most one year after that. She is a fully grown ghoul 200 years later.
I looked up her wiki and it says she was born in 2051, making her 26 when the bombs fell. I'm sure there's some concrete proof out there that shows ghouls growing at least from teens into adulthood.
I do know that since children existed in-game during Fallout 1 and 2 (even in NV and 3) that there would be no reason to not have children who were ghouls if ghoulification halted aging prior to adulthood. I'll look around some more for evidence on it but I'm at work and it's busy right now.
 
I looked up her wiki and it says she was born in 2051, making her 26 when the bombs fell. I'm sure there's some concrete proof out there that shows ghouls growing at least from teens into adulthood.
I do know that since children existed in-game during Fallout 1 and 2 (even in NV and 3) that there would be no reason to not have children who were ghouls if ghoulification halted aging prior to adulthood. I'll look around some more for evidence on it but I'm at work and it's busy right now.
She actually also says:
I do... I was in a shelter with my father when the bombs hit. In DC, we had the luxury of getting a warning after the west coast was... gone...
I was just a little girl then. We couldn't afford a space in one of the Vaults. I remember filing down into that shelter, my father rushing me in.
So another example of Bethesda not having any consistency even in their own character's dialogue. :lmao:

Sorry for double post, but this is news:
Bethesda announces that Fallout 76 will not be on Steam, only on bethesda.net:
https://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-76-wont-launch-on-steam/
"The PC version of Fallout 76, for both the B.E.T.A. and the launch, will be available only via Bethesda.net, not on Steam," a Bethesda rep said in an email.
 
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Heh if I had been considering buying the game than that would have killed my remaining interest in it.

Pretty confident now that modding outside the mods offered on the Creation Club will be made impossible (if it was ever open for mods).

Bethesda fans probably won't mind Bethesda.net, but perhaps now having to pay for any mods such as costumes and reskins based on cartoons and Warhammer 40K will kill their interest.
 
Sorry for double post, but this is news:
Bethesda announces that Fallout 76 will not be on Steam, only on bethesda.net:
https://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-76-wont-launch-on-steam/
Yeah I've been seeing this everywhere. If I get a game and it has DRM, it usually doesn't matter to me if it's Steam or another DRM client as long as it works better than GFWL. It being on their launcher doesn't affect whether or not I buy this game but I think the mainstream audience that are already feeling meh about this game are gonna be upset it isn't on their beloved Steam storefront immediately. It will only look to hurt the game on PC overall in my opinion.

She actually also says:
So another example of Bethesda not having any consistency even in their own character's dialogue. :lmao:
Also, hahahaha. Thank you for providing the dialogue. I had a feeling that it was going to be something like that but didn't have the time yesterday to poke around.
Who the hell considers themselves a "little girl" at 26?
 
https://segmentnext.com/2018/08/17/fallout-76-is-no-longer-bethesda-net-exclusive/
Fallout 76 is No Longer Bethesda.Net Exclusive
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By Sikandar MahmoodAugust 17, 2018going to be Bethesda.Net exclusive. However, that is no longer the case. Fallout 76 is available to pre-order from the official Microsoft Store. It seems Bethesda and Microsoft may have come to terms over the distribution of Fallout 76 PC.

If you head over to the official Microsoft Store, the game is currently available to pre-order on PC. Buyers can order the base game as well as Fallout 76 Tricentennial Edition from the official Microsoft Store.

Bethesda Game Studios, the award-winning creators of Skyrim and Fallout 4, welcome you to Fallout 76, the online prequel where every surviving human is a real person. Work together, or not, to survive. Under the threat of nuclear annihilation, you’ll experience the largest, most dynamic world ever created in the legendary Fallout universe. Tricentennial Edition includes bonus in-game power armor and weapon customization, outfits, decorations, and an emote.

Fallout 76 is releasing on November 14 on PC, Xbox One, and PS4. Players can pre-order the Xbox version from Microsoft Store as well. Bethesda quite clearly stated that Fallout 76 is exclusive to Bethesda.net so it is unclear what’s going on. Also, there are no concrete plans for how future Bethesda releases are going to be handled.

We did not announce ‘all future Bethesda games will not be on Steam’. That is not what we said. We said ‘this game will be available exclusively on Bethesda.net.

It would be interesting to see if they choose not to release future games on Steam but making them available on Microsoft Store. The base game is available for $59.99 while the special edition is going for $79.99.

Set in West Virginia, the new Fallout game is going to offer a multiplayer-centric experience to the player. While the community is positive about the setting of the game, Superman star Henry Cavill doesn’t share the same opinions.


Could be worthy of posting on the newspage. Not this article in particular though, just look at the last paragraph...
 
I looked up her wiki and it says she was born in 2051, making her 26 when the bombs fell. I'm sure there's some concrete proof out there that shows ghouls growing at least from teens into adulthood.
I do know that since children existed in-game during Fallout 1 and 2 (even in NV and 3) that there would be no reason to not have children who were ghouls if ghoulification halted aging prior to adulthood. I'll look around some more for evidence on it but I'm at work and it's busy right now.

Set's son, the one you do the funtime quest for to get the sack of bottlecaps in Fallout 2? He specially said he was ghouled before he born. He credits this fact as why he's more limber and even tempered than other Ghouls.
 
Yes he does. Those are his words almost verbaitim. Not that he was ghouled as a child, he was ghouled in the womb.
That's inaccurate as actually, Typhon says that he "Got born before the radiation hit us, so I grew up mutated. Ain't never been any other way for me."

Source: https://fallout.gamepedia.com/Typhon#cite_note-2


He didn't say he was mutated in the womb but rather grew up as a ghoul. Also, born ghouls are from Van Buren and are in a state of uncertainty in terms of canonicity.
 
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